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City vice-chairman calls it quits

7:32am Tuesday 13th May 2008

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By Simon Parker »

Jim Brown today announced he is standing down as City's vice-chairman.

The 51-year-old, one of the key members of the steering committee that helped the club back from the financial brink in 2004, feels his position is no longer so relevant with two men at the Valley Parade controls.

If they had told me four years ago the position we’d be in now, then I would have taken it. That was such a bleak time that you couldn’t look any further than a week on Friday

Jim Brown

"My role has changed in the last 12 months," he said, referring to the arrival of Mark Lawn alongside Julian Rhodes. "When you've two chairmen in charge, it's not that critical.

"We've got new ownership of the football club now and they have their own ideas. It's time to give the new brush a chance and I wish them well.

"I don't leave with any bad feelings and I'm very grateful for the support I've always been given by Julian.

"He deserves so much credit for his self-sacrifice and consistently going above and beyond the call of duty. The club was a mess four or five years ago but we are moving forward slowly and on solid foundations."

Brown, a former chairman at Halifax, was appointed to the City board by Rhodes in January 2005 - six months after that fateful day when the club's future hung by a thread.

He said: "I remember the administrator running round like a lunatic that morning and it didn't look good. He was getting a bit nervous wondering where we were heading.

"When you think about the masses of problems we had in all areas, it was an absolutely dreadful time.

"My biggest fear was not making it to the season. Two weeks before the first game we didn't have anything.

"We didn't have a team; we didn't have a safety certificate so couldn't have played any home games; we hadn't even sorted out a coach to travel away.

"I thought Colin Todd did a great job under difficult circumstances. I don't think people realised just how difficult they were.

"I know we've been disappointed with the results and where we are in the league but when you look at the resources available for teams like Peterborough and Darlington, there is never a level playing field.

"But at least we've got a football club. It's a real testimony to the hard work of so many people that we have got this far.

"If they had told me four years ago the position we'd be in now, then I would have taken it.

"That was such a bleak time that you couldn't look any further than a week on Friday.

"It's going to take some time to start getting back up but hopefully we will have learned lessons from before."

Rhodes said: "I would like to thank Jim for everything he has done. It's a tall order to ask somebody to do things for nothing and we've become very good friends over the years.

"Jim has taken flak at times, as we all do, but it is undeserved flak. In all my dealings with him, I've found Jim to be an honest and honourable gentleman to deal with."

Brown can now concentrate on running his property restoration business and he is also chairman of governors at Buttershaw Business and Enterprise College. But he will still be a regular watcher at Valley Parade.

"I've always been a hands-on individual and always believed in a team effort and people pulling together. There's a new team at the helm, they've put the money in and it's how they see it going forward from here.

"But I've always been a supporter of the club and that won't change. I will be there at home games, whether it's in a box or sitting in the stand."

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Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:10pm Fri 16 May 08

spikypete wrote:
Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!
Yes, but where did he choose to stay? He opted for Leeds even if there was a worry he might get swallowed up. That just about confirms my argument.

If you have ever been down to where our 'academy' is run, you will see that it still needs a massive cash boost to get it going properly. That said, Apperley Bridge, where the first team play, isn't exactly perfect for training.... but that is probably Wayne Jacobs' fault, LOL.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:10pm Fri 16 May 08

spikypete wrote:
Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!
Yes, but where did he choose to stay? He opted for Leeds even if there was a worry he might get swallowed up. That just about confirms my argument.

If you have ever been down to where our 'academy' is run, you will see that it still needs a massive cash boost to get it going properly. That said, Apperley Bridge, where the first team play, isn't exactly perfect for training.... but that is probably Wayne Jacobs' fault, LOL.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:10pm Fri 16 May 08

spikypete wrote:
Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!
Yes, but where did he choose to stay? He opted for Leeds even if there was a worry he might get swallowed up. That just about confirms my argument.

If you have ever been down to where our 'academy' is run, you will see that it still needs a massive cash boost to get it going properly. That said, Apperley Bridge, where the first team play, isn't exactly perfect for training.... but that is probably Wayne Jacobs' fault, LOL.

spikypete, guiseley says...
6:58pm Fri 16 May 08

Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!

spikypete, guiseley says...
6:58pm Fri 16 May 08

Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!

spikypete, guiseley says...
6:58pm Fri 16 May 08

Chatting to a Leeds fan at work who bumped into Arron 'playing for England' Lennon's dad about ten years ago. He was saying his lad might get swallowed up in the youth team @Leeds and might be better going to Bratfud or Udders to further his game and get 1st team experience.

Everyone who slags Bradford forgets that we are not a little club with a tumbledown stadium. We have everything in place to start our march up the leagues.

Just to recap then, the song goes

'Ee ay ee ay ee ay ow! Up the football league we go!'

Get practicing now!

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:27pm Fri 16 May 08

hahahaah, oh yeh expLetives! Red wine is great ;-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:27pm Fri 16 May 08

hahahaah, oh yeh expLetives! Red wine is great ;-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:27pm Fri 16 May 08

hahahaah, oh yeh expLetives! Red wine is great ;-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:26pm Fri 16 May 08

oh heck they removed my expetives! :-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:26pm Fri 16 May 08

oh heck they removed my expetives! :-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:26pm Fri 16 May 08

oh heck they removed my expetives! :-)

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:15pm Fri 16 May 08

**** to that. Exactly WHEN is that complete **** sensible (no capital letter as it's not worthy) going to ever answer any questions? He isn't/won't/ Cos hes a ****.

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:15pm Fri 16 May 08

**** to that. Exactly WHEN is that complete **** sensible (no capital letter as it's not worthy) going to ever answer any questions? He isn't/won't/ Cos hes a ****.

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
3:15pm Fri 16 May 08

**** to that. Exactly WHEN is that complete **** sensible (no capital letter as it's not worthy) going to ever answer any questions? He isn't/won't/ Cos hes a ****.

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
7:26am Fri 16 May 08

jaffalaffa wrote:
How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?
Yes

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
7:26am Fri 16 May 08

jaffalaffa wrote:
How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?
Yes

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
7:26am Fri 16 May 08

jaffalaffa wrote:
How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?
Yes

jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:50pm Thu 15 May 08

How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?

jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:50pm Thu 15 May 08

How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?

jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:50pm Thu 15 May 08

How many 'home grown' through the 'youth set up' are playing in the premiership these days? How many through Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers, etc. I guess Aston Villa have the most comeing through. Not So, crewe avoided relegation through the skin of their teeth! If Bournemouth and to a lesser extent Luton had not had points deductec which saps the morale, then they rather than Crewe may have stayed up. Havre you aver been to Gresty Road?

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:52pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?
About ten games in to the season, since then it's been a more up swing than downs. Ya see? FACTS! A concept you have not yet grasped in your sad little life....

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:52pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?
About ten games in to the season, since then it's been a more up swing than downs. Ya see? FACTS! A concept you have not yet grasped in your sad little life....

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:52pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?
About ten games in to the season, since then it's been a more up swing than downs. Ya see? FACTS! A concept you have not yet grasped in your sad little life....

j, Bradford says...
2:32pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible is a prat, Shaun is to negative and Skippy has a Wayne Jacobs obsession. No need to ban them. Either ignore them or challenge the nonsense they write. Skippy and Sensible haven't been able to bakc up any of their silly fantasies, so unless it is libellous or offensive it's a choice between ignoring the daft sods or explaining to them (S-L-O-W-L-Y, so they understand) why they are wrong.

Now, back on topic - thanks Jim for everything you have done for the club.

j, Bradford says...
2:32pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible is a prat, Shaun is to negative and Skippy has a Wayne Jacobs obsession. No need to ban them. Either ignore them or challenge the nonsense they write. Skippy and Sensible haven't been able to bakc up any of their silly fantasies, so unless it is libellous or offensive it's a choice between ignoring the daft sods or explaining to them (S-L-O-W-L-Y, so they understand) why they are wrong.

Now, back on topic - thanks Jim for everything you have done for the club.

j, Bradford says...
2:32pm Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible is a prat, Shaun is to negative and Skippy has a Wayne Jacobs obsession. No need to ban them. Either ignore them or challenge the nonsense they write. Skippy and Sensible haven't been able to bakc up any of their silly fantasies, so unless it is libellous or offensive it's a choice between ignoring the daft sods or explaining to them (S-L-O-W-L-Y, so they understand) why they are wrong.

Now, back on topic - thanks Jim for everything you have done for the club.

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
9:00am Thu 15 May 08

Henley B wrote:
Mr Sensible wrote: JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah. Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce. Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
I think what he actually said was that he'd been in court. Never mentioned the charges though.....

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
9:00am Thu 15 May 08

Henley B wrote:
Mr Sensible wrote: JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah. Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce. Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
I think what he actually said was that he'd been in court. Never mentioned the charges though.....

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
9:00am Thu 15 May 08

Henley B wrote:
Mr Sensible wrote: JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah. Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce. Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
I think what he actually said was that he'd been in court. Never mentioned the charges though.....

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:54am Thu 15 May 08

Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:54am Thu 15 May 08

Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:54am Thu 15 May 08

Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?

big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08

interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort

big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08

interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort

big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08

interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.

Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.

Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.

Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.

Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.

Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.

Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....

Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr.Sensible,

What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?

Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?

what exactly is your 'goal'?

Just want to know that's all.

Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr.Sensible,

What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?

Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?

what exactly is your 'goal'?

Just want to know that's all.

Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr.Sensible,

What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?

Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?

what exactly is your 'goal'?

Just want to know that's all.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08

JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08

JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08

JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08

A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08

A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08

A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.

JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.

Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.

IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc

To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.

JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.

Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.

IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc

To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.

JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08

Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.

Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.

IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc

To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08

Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08

Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08

Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.

SHAUN, richmond says...
5:37pm Wed 14 May 08

BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
Here we go with another "BAN" merchant.
Free Country , if you dont like it try North Korea it would suit you down to the ground!!

SHAUN, richmond says...
5:37pm Wed 14 May 08

BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
Here we go with another "BAN" merchant.
Free Country , if you dont like it try North Korea it would suit you down to the ground!!