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Stand up to drug lords, urges judge

5:17am Friday 9th May 2008

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By Jenny Loweth »

A judge has urged Bradford people to stand up against criminal Mr Bigs as the city becomes "riddled" with drugs.

Judge Alistair McCallum told two heroin and crack cocaine street dealers they could help lock up the major players for 25 years.

Iftekar Sadiq and Azad Aslam refused to disclose any names after they were caught selling wraps of heroin and crack cocaine in Reevy Road West, Buttershaw.

Sadiq was jailed for four years and Aslam, the father of two young children, for three years.

Judge McCallum urged everyone in the Bradford area to stand up against drug dealers getting rich by "selling poison to young people in our community".

"Bradford is being reduced to a city just riddled with drugs. It has the most appalling record for drugs," he said.

Sadiq, 21, of Luke Road, Canter-bury, Bradford, and Aslam, 39, of Scholemoor Avenue, Scholemoor, Bradford, pleaded guilty to possessing heroin and crack cocaine with intent to supply, supplying the drugs and possessing criminal property.

Bradford Crown Court heard yesterday that Aslam was dealing because he was out of work and Sadiq was forced to peddle the drugs to pay off a debt to his dealers.

Prosecutor Gavin Howie said the pair were caught selling wraps of the drugs hidden in a chocolate egg.

Officers in Bradford Area Drugs Team swooped on July 26 last year. They blocked in Aslam's car, smashed a window and seized the keys. Sadiq had £270 cash in his pocket and £1,250 was found at Aslam's home.

Aslam told police he had been "doing drops" in Little Horton and Canterbury for a month.

Sadiq, who was a drug addict, was paying off a debt to dealers.

Sadiq was remanded in custody after failing to appear at an earlier hearing. He was locked up for two years in January 2006 for very similar drugs offences.

Aslam's barrister, Michael Greenhalgh, said he was out of work at the time and paid to drive round doing street deals. But Judge McCallum said Aslam was trading on other people's misery to try to get rich.

The judge said Aslam "was sensible enough not to take any of the poison himself".

Nawaz Hussain, for Sadiq, said he was in "substantial debt" to a dealer. "He wanted to come clean but he faced the real threat of the kind of retribution that can be meted out by those higher up the food chain," Mr Hussain said.

After the case, Sergeant Chris Day, of the Bradford District Drugs Team, said: "We welcome the sentences.

"We work day-in, day-out, on the streets of the Bradford district. You might not see us, as we often work undercover, but we are there and are determined to tackle the problem of drugs. Calls from the public to our Dob in a Dealer line are invaluable and I would urge anyone who has any information or suspicions about drug dealing to contact us anonymously and free of charge on 0800 555111.

"From April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008, we took 1214 calls from members of the public to the Dob in a Dealer line. The team made 441 arrests for drug offences, carried out 354 operations, just short of one a day for the year, and we seized nearly £2 million worth of Class A drugs."

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albion, west riding says...
5:11pm Sun 11 May 08

mrs walker wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time
Copout, Alb.
Try = drug dealing statistics involving asians, on google uk, i think thats where they came from.

albion, west riding says...
5:11pm Sun 11 May 08

mrs walker wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time
Copout, Alb.
Try = drug dealing statistics involving asians, on google uk, i think thats where they came from.

albion, west riding says...
5:11pm Sun 11 May 08

mrs walker wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time
Copout, Alb.
Try = drug dealing statistics involving asians, on google uk, i think thats where they came from.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:07pm Sun 11 May 08

peter wrote:
Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.
And crack? Afghanistan doesn't lend itself to coca production, but if the West had paid fair prices for its coffee all these years perhaps South American farmers wouldn't have had to resort to growing an illegal crop in order to send their kids to school. Mull on that as you drink your Gold Blend.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:07pm Sun 11 May 08

peter wrote:
Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.
And crack? Afghanistan doesn't lend itself to coca production, but if the West had paid fair prices for its coffee all these years perhaps South American farmers wouldn't have had to resort to growing an illegal crop in order to send their kids to school. Mull on that as you drink your Gold Blend.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:07pm Sun 11 May 08

peter wrote:
Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.
And crack? Afghanistan doesn't lend itself to coca production, but if the West had paid fair prices for its coffee all these years perhaps South American farmers wouldn't have had to resort to growing an illegal crop in order to send their kids to school. Mull on that as you drink your Gold Blend.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:01pm Sun 11 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time


Copout, Alb.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:01pm Sun 11 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time


Copout, Alb.

mrs walker, round here says...
4:01pm Sun 11 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time


Copout, Alb.

peter, oxenhope says...
4:00pm Sun 11 May 08

Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.

peter, oxenhope says...
4:00pm Sun 11 May 08

Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.

peter, oxenhope says...
4:00pm Sun 11 May 08

Afghanistan produces 93% of the Worlds opium, which is processed to make heroin and then exported through Pakistan and Iraq around the World,"Reuters" 24 April 2008, so yes, I would say most of the scum drug dealers were Asian who use little white scumbags to help them, but there is a flip side to all of this, the high wheat prices may be turning these detestable opium farmers into the production of legal crops, so they can make even more money out of their own people.

mrs walker, round here says...
3:52pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you. Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society. He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled! Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread. In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.
How COULD you Albion! A MISCHIEF MAKER?? ME?? The only thing I make regularly are my dumplings - and sometimes some nice buns - as well you know, and there's no mischief in them.
Now just because I stand up for humanity in all its beautiful flavours and argue against the politics of certain ignorant posters herein, you libel me!

Bah to you Sir!

Apologies for not dropping in earlier Realist. Legend needs to learn how to talk to people more politely. Then he might be able to get a better job and afford his own shiny new car.

Incidentally, please take care driving in the wet. Road conditions are hazardous and visibility is reduced! I would hate for you to run into me while I'm wobbling along on my bicycle.

mrs walker, round here says...
3:52pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you. Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society. He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled! Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread. In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.
How COULD you Albion! A MISCHIEF MAKER?? ME?? The only thing I make regularly are my dumplings - and sometimes some nice buns - as well you know, and there's no mischief in them.
Now just because I stand up for humanity in all its beautiful flavours and argue against the politics of certain ignorant posters herein, you libel me!

Bah to you Sir!

Apologies for not dropping in earlier Realist. Legend needs to learn how to talk to people more politely. Then he might be able to get a better job and afford his own shiny new car.

Incidentally, please take care driving in the wet. Road conditions are hazardous and visibility is reduced! I would hate for you to run into me while I'm wobbling along on my bicycle.

mrs walker, round here says...
3:52pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you. Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society. He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled! Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread. In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.
How COULD you Albion! A MISCHIEF MAKER?? ME?? The only thing I make regularly are my dumplings - and sometimes some nice buns - as well you know, and there's no mischief in them.
Now just because I stand up for humanity in all its beautiful flavours and argue against the politics of certain ignorant posters herein, you libel me!

Bah to you Sir!

Apologies for not dropping in earlier Realist. Legend needs to learn how to talk to people more politely. Then he might be able to get a better job and afford his own shiny new car.

Incidentally, please take care driving in the wet. Road conditions are hazardous and visibility is reduced! I would hate for you to run into me while I'm wobbling along on my bicycle.

mrs walker, round here says...
3:38pm Sun 11 May 08

And this is where the '*****' get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL


If I didn't drink and lived with my family I could afford a very expensive car and a personalised numberplate to go with it.

Someone once asked me how a young lad who worked with me could afford his new car... the inference was, of course, that he was somehow involved in 'dodgy dealings', but he had two jobs, lived at home with doting parents who didn't ask him for a contribution to the upkeep of the household... and even a low wage goes a long way when you don't need to spend any of it...

mrs walker, round here says...
3:38pm Sun 11 May 08

And this is where the '*****' get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL


If I didn't drink and lived with my family I could afford a very expensive car and a personalised numberplate to go with it.

Someone once asked me how a young lad who worked with me could afford his new car... the inference was, of course, that he was somehow involved in 'dodgy dealings', but he had two jobs, lived at home with doting parents who didn't ask him for a contribution to the upkeep of the household... and even a low wage goes a long way when you don't need to spend any of it...

mrs walker, round here says...
3:38pm Sun 11 May 08

And this is where the '*****' get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL


If I didn't drink and lived with my family I could afford a very expensive car and a personalised numberplate to go with it.

Someone once asked me how a young lad who worked with me could afford his new car... the inference was, of course, that he was somehow involved in 'dodgy dealings', but he had two jobs, lived at home with doting parents who didn't ask him for a contribution to the upkeep of the household... and even a low wage goes a long way when you don't need to spend any of it...

albion, west riding says...
3:19pm Sun 11 May 08

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time (i am a mine of facts and figures, some might say useless facts and figures).
I dont dispute your opinion regarding the makeup of dealers, that is why i said "in this area".
I have also read somewhere that the number of prisoners in armley convicted for drug offences is a higher number of black and asians than others, this isnt meant as criticism, it is merely stating the current situation. The situation might well have been different in the days of transportation or some other time, but things happening now are all that is relevant.
And things happening in this area are also only of any real concern to me.
Seeing how you have persisted with an off topic subject rather confirms some of my other comments, but that was much as i expected, my own feeling is that it must be very difficult for some people (given the situation they might be in) to stand up against armed criminals, we have seen all too often what some of these people are capable of.
In my opinion the posts from the person calling him or herself The Realist are designed to further any controversy that may or may not be evident on this particular thread, along with a rather superior attitude which seems to be indicating that most if not all white persons resident in the region are what has come to be known as chavs, all this indicates the identity of a previous commentor who was axed from this site for what turned out to be rather disturbing opinions.

albion, west riding says...
3:19pm Sun 11 May 08

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time (i am a mine of facts and figures, some might say useless facts and figures).
I dont dispute your opinion regarding the makeup of dealers, that is why i said "in this area".
I have also read somewhere that the number of prisoners in armley convicted for drug offences is a higher number of black and asians than others, this isnt meant as criticism, it is merely stating the current situation. The situation might well have been different in the days of transportation or some other time, but things happening now are all that is relevant.
And things happening in this area are also only of any real concern to me.
Seeing how you have persisted with an off topic subject rather confirms some of my other comments, but that was much as i expected, my own feeling is that it must be very difficult for some people (given the situation they might be in) to stand up against armed criminals, we have seen all too often what some of these people are capable of.
In my opinion the posts from the person calling him or herself The Realist are designed to further any controversy that may or may not be evident on this particular thread, along with a rather superior attitude which seems to be indicating that most if not all white persons resident in the region are what has come to be known as chavs, all this indicates the identity of a previous commentor who was axed from this site for what turned out to be rather disturbing opinions.

albion, west riding says...
3:19pm Sun 11 May 08

I read these figures online, between 1 and 2 years ago, they might well have been on this site i cant honestly remember, but i can remember taking note at the time (i am a mine of facts and figures, some might say useless facts and figures).
I dont dispute your opinion regarding the makeup of dealers, that is why i said "in this area".
I have also read somewhere that the number of prisoners in armley convicted for drug offences is a higher number of black and asians than others, this isnt meant as criticism, it is merely stating the current situation. The situation might well have been different in the days of transportation or some other time, but things happening now are all that is relevant.
And things happening in this area are also only of any real concern to me.
Seeing how you have persisted with an off topic subject rather confirms some of my other comments, but that was much as i expected, my own feeling is that it must be very difficult for some people (given the situation they might be in) to stand up against armed criminals, we have seen all too often what some of these people are capable of.
In my opinion the posts from the person calling him or herself The Realist are designed to further any controversy that may or may not be evident on this particular thread, along with a rather superior attitude which seems to be indicating that most if not all white persons resident in the region are what has come to be known as chavs, all this indicates the identity of a previous commentor who was axed from this site for what turned out to be rather disturbing opinions.

mrs walker, round here says...
2:20pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Woody wrote:
Legend wrote: And this is where the Pakis get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL
Not all drug dealers are Asian, and not all Asians are drug dealers. Your reactionary, feeble-minded, comments are ill-considered and racist. I know or know of, several Asians who drive "fancy cars"; shopkeepers, accountants, property developers, restauranters, but no drug dealers.
You are of course right, but statistics show that most people prosecuted in this area for drug dealing are infact Asian, just as statistics show that most of those growing skunk and being prosecuted for it are Oriental. But as you say there are good and bad in every community.
Tell me where you got those statistics please Albion, and then weigh them agaist the ethnic makeup of the areas concerned.

I think you'll find that in areas that are mainly Asian, there are mainly Asian drug dealers; in 'white' areas, there are mainly 'white' drug dealers and in Afro- Caribbean areas... ooh, now let me guess...!

mrs walker, round here says...
2:20pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Woody wrote:
Legend wrote: And this is where the Pakis get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL
Not all drug dealers are Asian, and not all Asians are drug dealers. Your reactionary, feeble-minded, comments are ill-considered and racist. I know or know of, several Asians who drive "fancy cars"; shopkeepers, accountants, property developers, restauranters, but no drug dealers.
You are of course right, but statistics show that most people prosecuted in this area for drug dealing are infact Asian, just as statistics show that most of those growing skunk and being prosecuted for it are Oriental. But as you say there are good and bad in every community.
Tell me where you got those statistics please Albion, and then weigh them agaist the ethnic makeup of the areas concerned.

I think you'll find that in areas that are mainly Asian, there are mainly Asian drug dealers; in 'white' areas, there are mainly 'white' drug dealers and in Afro- Caribbean areas... ooh, now let me guess...!

mrs walker, round here says...
2:20pm Sun 11 May 08

albion wrote:
Woody wrote:
Legend wrote: And this is where the Pakis get all their fancy cars from...WAKE UP PPL
Not all drug dealers are Asian, and not all Asians are drug dealers. Your reactionary, feeble-minded, comments are ill-considered and racist. I know or know of, several Asians who drive "fancy cars"; shopkeepers, accountants, property developers, restauranters, but no drug dealers.
You are of course right, but statistics show that most people prosecuted in this area for drug dealing are infact Asian, just as statistics show that most of those growing skunk and being prosecuted for it are Oriental. But as you say there are good and bad in every community.
Tell me where you got those statistics please Albion, and then weigh them agaist the ethnic makeup of the areas concerned.

I think you'll find that in areas that are mainly Asian, there are mainly Asian drug dealers; in 'white' areas, there are mainly 'white' drug dealers and in Afro- Caribbean areas... ooh, now let me guess...!

davetanda, bradford says...
12:13pm Sun 11 May 08

they won't even do a couple of years. they will do 6-7 months in a real prison. then be moved to an open prison. here they can drink, smoke, take drugs, they will have cable tv with premier packages, video games, gym etc. they are allowed out during the day to work at a job, also will be allowed home every month.

davetanda, bradford says...
12:13pm Sun 11 May 08

they won't even do a couple of years. they will do 6-7 months in a real prison. then be moved to an open prison. here they can drink, smoke, take drugs, they will have cable tv with premier packages, video games, gym etc. they are allowed out during the day to work at a job, also will be allowed home every month.

davetanda, bradford says...
12:13pm Sun 11 May 08

they won't even do a couple of years. they will do 6-7 months in a real prison. then be moved to an open prison. here they can drink, smoke, take drugs, they will have cable tv with premier packages, video games, gym etc. they are allowed out during the day to work at a job, also will be allowed home every month.

born n bred, Bradford says...
1:06am Sun 11 May 08

I drink with that judge, he has made a statement which he knows in reality will never happen. He said the only way to sort these scum out is to give all the street dealers bigger sentences, or do deals like they do in the States, before charging them bargain with them. i.e give us the name of your supplier up the chain and nobody will know you werwe lifted

born n bred, Bradford says...
1:06am Sun 11 May 08

I drink with that judge, he has made a statement which he knows in reality will never happen. He said the only way to sort these scum out is to give all the street dealers bigger sentences, or do deals like they do in the States, before charging them bargain with them. i.e give us the name of your supplier up the chain and nobody will know you werwe lifted

born n bred, Bradford says...
1:06am Sun 11 May 08

I drink with that judge, he has made a statement which he knows in reality will never happen. He said the only way to sort these scum out is to give all the street dealers bigger sentences, or do deals like they do in the States, before charging them bargain with them. i.e give us the name of your supplier up the chain and nobody will know you werwe lifted

albion, west riding says...
5:19pm Sat 10 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society.
He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled!
Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread.
In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.

albion, west riding says...
5:19pm Sat 10 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society.
He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled!
Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread.
In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.

albion, west riding says...
5:19pm Sat 10 May 08

Such statistics are freely available on the internet, if i can find them so can you.
Woody isnt interested in defending anyone, he is however interested in encouraging such people as you who respond in a predictable manner and further division in society.
He and Mrs Walker are renown mischief makers, dont be fooled!
Now can i remind you what this topic is about ( a judge encouraging people to stand up to drugs mr bigs), which is from now on the only subject i intend to respond to on this thread.
In future i would thank you to actually read my posts, rather than assume some other meaning is concealed within them.

The_Realist, Keighley says...
5:02pm Sat 10 May 08

ALBION:

Could u please tell me where you got these statistics from? I'm dead curious to see them. Also i wasn't patronising woody, i was being serious! He was one of very few people to defend the asians. As for my comments being provocative, its merely my opinion which i can express however i want, if u feel provoked, feel free to respond!

WHERE ARE YOU MRS WALKER????

LOL

The_Realist, Keighley says...
5:02pm Sat 10 May 08

ALBION:

Could u please tell me where you got these statistics from? I'm dead curious to see them. Also i wasn't patronising woody, i was being serious! He was one of very few people to defend the asians. As for my comments being provocative, its merely my opinion which i can express however i want, if u feel provoked, feel free to respond!

WHERE ARE YOU MRS WALKER????

LOL

The_Realist, Keighley says...
5:02pm Sat 10 May 08

ALBION:

Could u please tell me where you got these statistics from? I'm dead curious to see them. Also i wasn't patronising woody, i was being serious! He was one of very few people to defend the asians. As for my comments being provocative, its merely my opinion which i can express however i want, if u feel provoked, feel free to respond!

WHERE ARE YOU MRS WALKER????

LOL

albion, west riding says...
4:02pm Sat 10 May 08

The_Realist wrote:
Albion: You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything! As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that! Legend: I see you havent spoken again! And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!
I did NOT respond to any post written by someone using the title Legend, i did however respond to the post from Trevor Wood, and did state some facts that are backed up by official figures that have been published elsewhere.
I dont claim i never meant anything, i meant exactly what i said (and not anything that might be assumed).
Nobody said anything about any of my previous vehicles, but as you brought up the subject i thought i would add to it, we all have pleasurable experiences from driving, but i cant agree that what i see as dangerous and risky to my fellow man is fun.
Woody and i dont hold back with our comments to each other, we have been doing similar things for years, but we are both still here battling away when the mood takes us.

albion, west riding says...
4:02pm Sat 10 May 08

The_Realist wrote:
Albion: You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything! As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that! Legend: I see you havent spoken again! And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!
I did NOT respond to any post written by someone using the title Legend, i did however respond to the post from Trevor Wood, and did state some facts that are backed up by official figures that have been published elsewhere.
I dont claim i never meant anything, i meant exactly what i said (and not anything that might be assumed).
Nobody said anything about any of my previous vehicles, but as you brought up the subject i thought i would add to it, we all have pleasurable experiences from driving, but i cant agree that what i see as dangerous and risky to my fellow man is fun.
Woody and i dont hold back with our comments to each other, we have been doing similar things for years, but we are both still here battling away when the mood takes us.

albion, west riding says...
4:02pm Sat 10 May 08

The_Realist wrote:
Albion: You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything! As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that! Legend: I see you havent spoken again! And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!
I did NOT respond to any post written by someone using the title Legend, i did however respond to the post from Trevor Wood, and did state some facts that are backed up by official figures that have been published elsewhere.
I dont claim i never meant anything, i meant exactly what i said (and not anything that might be assumed).
Nobody said anything about any of my previous vehicles, but as you brought up the subject i thought i would add to it, we all have pleasurable experiences from driving, but i cant agree that what i see as dangerous and risky to my fellow man is fun.
Woody and i dont hold back with our comments to each other, we have been doing similar things for years, but we are both still here battling away when the mood takes us.

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:30pm Sat 10 May 08

JJJ:

Prove most the smackheads are not asian, just look around ya, u been 2 bradford city centre or keighley lately, Granted, most the people selling the drugs are probably asian, but most the users are whites!

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:30pm Sat 10 May 08

JJJ:

Prove most the smackheads are not asian, just look around ya, u been 2 bradford city centre or keighley lately, Granted, most the people selling the drugs are probably asian, but most the users are whites!

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:30pm Sat 10 May 08

JJJ:

Prove most the smackheads are not asian, just look around ya, u been 2 bradford city centre or keighley lately, Granted, most the people selling the drugs are probably asian, but most the users are whites!

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:28pm Sat 10 May 08

Albion:

You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything!

As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that!

Legend: I see you havent spoken again!
And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:28pm Sat 10 May 08

Albion:

You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything!

As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that!

Legend: I see you havent spoken again!
And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!

The_Realist, Keighley says...
3:28pm Sat 10 May 08

Albion:

You always drop little remarks and then claim u never meant anything! If u see, You were the only person to agree with the braindead LEGEND, Everyone else (incuding woody) were opposed to the idea of every drug dealer being asian, whereas you thought you would agree and the pretend you never meant anything!

As for driving a BMW, who said anything about you? ALso all the fun is in a wet road, everybody knows that!

Legend: I see you havent spoken again!
And will everyone lay off woody, he is being fair!

skippy, says...
3:12pm Sat 10 May 08

albion wrote:
The_Realist wrote: WOODY: Total respect for you mate, ur a fair person, i always see ya commments and their always bang on! As for ALBION: usual **** about asians messing up the place! Maybe if we didnt have as many drug users,the majority of whom are not asian may i add!
Really? I dont remember writing about anyone messing up anywhere, my comments on this thread are however, not assuming or designed to provoke (can you say the same?). With regard to your rather patronising comments aimed at Woody, if you read my previous post you will see that i actually agreed with him (a rare but not unknown occurence). I too used to own a BMW but failing eyesite and old age rule out such things these days (they were never much use in the wet anyway).
how can anyone patronise woody,hes a scrounger with no intention of ever working,he will bang on the drum about anything and do nothing about the topic hes commenting on,send him to burmha he seems to have a thing about there and hes no use to our society what so ever.

skippy, says...
3:12pm Sat 10 May 08

albion wrote:
The_Realist wrote: WOODY: Total respect for you mate, ur a fair person, i always see ya commments and their always bang on! As for ALBION: usual **** about asians messing up the place! Maybe if we didnt have as many drug users,the majority of whom are not asian may i add!
Really? I dont remember writing about anyone messing up anywhere, my comments on this thread are however, not assuming or designed to provoke (can you say the same?). With regard to your rather patronising comments aimed at Woody, if you read my previous post you will see that i actually agreed with him (a rare but not unknown occurence). I too used to own a BMW but failing eyesite and old age rule out such things these days (they were never much use in the wet anyway).
how can anyone patronise woody,hes a scrounger with no intention of ever working,he will bang on the drum about anything and do nothing about the topic hes commenting on,send him to burmha he seems to have a thing about there and hes no use to our society what so ever.

skippy, says...
3:12pm Sat 10 May 08

albion wrote:
The_Realist wrote: WOODY: Total respect for you mate, ur a fair person, i always see ya commments and their always bang on! As for ALBION: usual **** about asians messing up the place! Maybe if we didnt have as many drug users,the majority of whom are not asian may i add!
Really? I dont remember writing about anyone messing up anywhere, my comments on this thread are however, not assuming or designed to provoke (can you say the same?). With regard to your rather patronising comments aimed at Woody, if you read my previous post you will see that i actually agreed with him (a rare but not unknown occurence). I too used to own a BMW but failing eyesite and old age rule out such things these days (they were never much use in the wet any