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| Mushtaq Hussein, of Thornbury, Bradford |
A man will have to pay nearly £500 towards a new boiler because a Government grant which claims to cover the cost of heating homes for people on low incomes has not kept pace with inflation.
Mushtaq Hussein, of Thornbury, Bradford, applied for a Warm Front Grant to pay for the new boiler, but he was told that even though he had qualified for the full grant of £2,700, but he would have to pay £482.
Warm Front said the grant was set up in 2000 and was worth £2,500, and raised to £2,700 in 2005. The Retail Price Index has climbed by 20 per cent since 2000, leaving many on low incomes struggling to heat their homes. If the grant had kept pace with the Retail Price Index, it would now be worth £3,000, leaving Mr Hussein with a much smaller excess of around £180.
Mr Hussein, 55, who lives with wife and three children aged 31, 21 and 13, said: "I'm asking for one boiler. I don't want full central heating.
"I cannot afford that extra money. When I saw the letter I nearly had a heart attack. I was really upset.
"We have a faulty boiler at the moment - it has been cold all winter. We had a £400 gas bill for three months and we couldn't afford the bills so we kept the radiators off.
"Me and my wife have diabetes and I have high blood pressure so it's just not healthy."
The Warm Front Grant is administered on behalf of the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) and is designed to help make more homes warmer, healthier and more energy efficient.
The Warm Front team establishes a person's eligibility, makes an assessment of their home and the costs of any work needed, then carries out the work using in-house experts.
A DEFRA spokesman said: "It is a set amount. It goes up because we review it and we have to review it because prices do change. It is not like everyone has the same home. But it is better that money is targeted at more people. The main thing is that we are using the scheme to help as many people as possible.
"There are people who are in the margins and we take these into account as part of the review, to capture cases like this. It's a huge scheme and it is not always 100 per cent."
DEFRA said a review was taking place and that there should be a new amount by the end of the year.
A Help the Aged spokesman said: "The Warm Front scheme is proving to be less and less adequate for the work which is needed to make people's homes warm. "They do need to look again at the levels of grant which are available to do the work which needs to be done."
4:30am Tuesday 25th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: chris, BRADFORD on 9:40am Tue 25 Mar 08
It is he hads 3 children living with him one is 31 and 21 and 13.
Christ 31 and 21 are full grow men now why cant they put money in the pot for this boiler. These kind of people dont like paying for anything they think the world owns them a living.
It is he hads 3 children living with him one is 31 and 21 and 13.
Christ 31 and 21 are full grow men now why cant they put money in the pot for this boiler. These kind of people dont like paying for anything they think the world owns them a living.
Posted by: albion, west riding on 9:43am Tue 25 Mar 08
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?
Posted by: bradfordian, bradford on 9:43am Tue 25 Mar 08
so judgemental. how do you know how long this man has worked for. he could have worked for most of his life before he came ill.but,that is not the point.this type of grant was set up to help mainly people who are disabled.would the people who have left comments not want any help when they fell ill?they have worked all their life and would be entitled if they were long term ill or disabled.it,illness,
can really happen to anyone.it would not be possible for him to get a loan because he will be on benefits due to his illness.not all people who are working can get loans.
so judgemental. how do you know how long this man has worked for. he could have worked for most of his life before he came ill.but,that is not the point.this type of grant was set up to help mainly people who are disabled.would the people who have left comments not want any help when they fell ill?they have worked all their life and would be entitled if they were long term ill or disabled.it,illness,
can really happen to anyone.it would not be possible for him to get a loan because he will be on benefits due to his illness.not all people who are working can get loans.
Posted by: chris, BRADFORD on 10:01am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]albion[/bold] wrote:
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?[/quote] It the T and A if they dont like what you are saying they take it off.
Thing you cant metion on here
1 THE BNP
2 Anything which knocks BRADFORD
3 Anything jugementel about the people off BRADFORD
albion wrote:
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?
It the T and A if they dont like what you are saying they take it off.
Thing you cant metion on here
1 THE BNP
2 Anything which knocks BRADFORD
3 Anything jugementel about the people off BRADFORD
Posted by: paul, camberley surrey on 10:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
Well said chris
Posted by: sigil, terminus on 10:14am Tue 25 Mar 08
There were some valid comments earlier, although mostly critical, sometimes the censors seem to be affected by nodding dog syndrome.
There were some valid comments earlier, although mostly critical, sometimes the censors seem to be affected by nodding dog syndrome.
Posted by: Bill1, Lancs on 10:22am Tue 25 Mar 08
So he's getting a boiler for £482. That's a pretty good deal.
And like someone else said, he has two grown-up children who can no doubt help out.
So he's getting a boiler for £482. That's a pretty good deal.
And like someone else said, he has two grown-up children who can no doubt help out.
Posted by: mrjjb, bradford on 10:29am Tue 25 Mar 08
surprise surprise i have just tried to apply for this grant as my boiler is also broke and you only qualify for the grant if you are over 60 or on benefits!! Because i work and have kids i get sweet F A as usual. If i was given a choice of the full bill or £482.00 i know which i would choose.
surprise surprise i have just tried to apply for this grant as my boiler is also broke and you only qualify for the grant if you are over 60 or on benefits!! Because i work and have kids i get sweet F A as usual. If i was given a choice of the full bill or £482.00 i know which i would choose.
Posted by: GEOFF, BRADFORD on 10:35am Tue 25 Mar 08
HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION
HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION
Posted by: James, Bingley on 11:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GEOFF[/bold] wrote:
HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION[/quote] Quite right Geoff. I am a plumber and if Mr Kahn wants to get in touch with me I will supply and fit his boiler and give him new radiators for £2700 and I'll give him £1000 back in cash, it'll only take me a couple of days, then I can have the rest of the week off. It seems the wacko's in the government's Warmfront department are quite prepared to pay 3 times the cost for things like this. Although, I do not agree that this man deserves the grant if he can't be bothered to look after his health properly and won't get his sponging kids to chip in.
GEOFF wrote:
HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION
Quite right Geoff. I am a plumber and if Mr Kahn wants to get in touch with me I will supply and fit his boiler and give him new radiators for £2700 and I'll give him £1000 back in cash, it'll only take me a couple of days, then I can have the rest of the week off. It seems the wacko's in the government's Warmfront department are quite prepared to pay 3 times the cost for things like this. Although, I do not agree that this man deserves the grant if he can't be bothered to look after his health properly and won't get his sponging kids to chip in.
Posted by: Mr Khan, Bradford on 11:11am Tue 25 Mar 08
I agree with an earlier comment made, he has two sons aged 31, 21 I wonder what they do ?
Upon searching the internet I found a website selling Condensing Combi Packages inc Boiler, Flue, Clock, Loop, 7 x Compact Radiators and 14 Valves £770.00 inc Vat and Delivery. In wonder how installation costs ?
About the government wake up and do an independent price check.
I agree with an earlier comment made, he has two sons aged 31, 21 I wonder what they do ?
Upon searching the internet I found a website selling Condensing Combi Packages inc Boiler, Flue, Clock, Loop, 7 x Compact Radiators and 14 Valves £770.00 inc Vat and Delivery. In wonder how installation costs ?
About the government wake up and do an independent price check.
Posted by: Christine, Bradford on 11:49am Tue 25 Mar 08
My parents are both nearly in their 80's they have been waiting for a wall heater which warms their hallway up to their bedroom this is the only source of heating also their back boiler is faulty, warm front technicians told my parents that they would have enough on the grant now they are waiting for an excess letter exactly like Mr Hussein how much will that be My parents have both worked since they were 14 and because my mum stayed at home to look after her family she has only a small pension so most of the bills are paid by my fathers pension they have been without heat since December
they have put an electric heater in the hallway but their electricity bills have trebled the thermometer reads hypothermia levels and they are distressed. I was told by warm front that we should take no notice of the technician but my parents trusted these people ..If grants are available why not have them I think a voucher system would be better then they could use firms who do not rip them off with ridiculous prices..I think Age concern should get more involved with these firms and not just leave it to the elderly and the Goverment should also act on this
My parents are both nearly in their 80's they have been waiting for a wall heater which warms their hallway up to their bedroom this is the only source of heating also their back boiler is faulty, warm front technicians told my parents that they would have enough on the grant now they are waiting for an excess letter exactly like Mr Hussein how much will that be My parents have both worked since they were 14 and because my mum stayed at home to look after her family she has only a small pension so most of the bills are paid by my fathers pension they have been without heat since December
they have put an electric heater in the hallway but their electricity bills have trebled the thermometer reads hypothermia levels and they are distressed. I was told by warm front that we should take no notice of the technician but my parents trusted these people ..If grants are available why not have them I think a voucher system would be better then they could use firms who do not rip them off with ridiculous prices..I think Age concern should get more involved with these firms and not just leave it to the elderly and the Goverment should also act on this
Posted by: Agatha Worzel, Here on 11:50am Tue 25 Mar 08
He Lives with three children aged 31, 21 and 13 - So, when it suits parts of the population a 31 year old and a 21 year old are now called 'Children' are they?? what a load of rubbish - if he wants a new Central Heating system he should pay for it himself - are the whole family invalids and incapable of work? cos if the other members of the 'family' do work, surely this should be taken account of and affect any 'benefits' they are entitled to - I know what I would be told if I wanted to claim towrads a new boiler - and I pay taxes towards these benifits - how unfair hey???
He Lives with three children aged 31, 21 and 13 - So, when it suits parts of the population a 31 year old and a 21 year old are now called 'Children' are they?? what a load of rubbish - if he wants a new Central Heating system he should pay for it himself - are the whole family invalids and incapable of work? cos if the other members of the 'family' do work, surely this should be taken account of and affect any 'benefits' they are entitled to - I know what I would be told if I wanted to claim towrads a new boiler - and I pay taxes towards these benifits - how unfair hey???
Posted by: Agatha Worzel, Here on 12:00pm Tue 25 Mar 08
...and another thing, since when has 'diabetes; made anyone incapable of working for a living? 1 of my Uncles has been a diabetic since he was 12 - that's over 50 years ago - he has always worked. I have worked with other diabetics in the past and to be honest, most of them lead such full lives, you would not know they were diabetic unless they told you so - so why are these 'people' allowed to claim 'incapacity benifit? I bet it doesn't stop them from walking around shops, driving to shopping centres and carrying newly purchased TV sets, etc into their house, all paid for by the great british taxpayer - isn't it great the way some people can qualify as 'disabled' and others can't.
...and another thing, since when has 'diabetes; made anyone incapable of working for a living? 1 of my Uncles has been a diabetic since he was 12 - that's over 50 years ago - he has always worked. I have worked with other diabetics in the past and to be honest, most of them lead such full lives, you would not know they were diabetic unless they told you so - so why are these 'people' allowed to claim 'incapacity benifit? I bet it doesn't stop them from walking around shops, driving to shopping centres and carrying newly purchased TV sets, etc into their house, all paid for by the great british taxpayer - isn't it great the way some people can qualify as 'disabled' and others can't.
Posted by: Freespeech, Shipley on 12:30pm Tue 25 Mar 08
What happened to my comment I made at 7.50am? Has it been deleted because it highlighted the fact that some of us work for a living, and don’t live like parasites? This family has the capability to bring money into the home through hard work. The benefit system in this county is set up wrong, poorly managed. Too many people out there sponge off the hard working members of society. Well I for one of them are sick of it! Get a job!!!!
What happened to my comment I made at 7.50am? Has it been deleted because it highlighted the fact that some of us work for a living, and don’t live like parasites? This family has the capability to bring money into the home through hard work. The benefit system in this county is set up wrong, poorly managed. Too many people out there sponge off the hard working members of society. Well I for one of them are sick of it! Get a job!!!!
Posted by: Divers_uk, Bingley on 12:50pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Disabled diabetic?
2 adult "children"?
Not enough for free?
No wonder the Tea & hAy had to remove comments.
The honest, hardworking taxpayer funding again
Disabled diabetic?
2 adult "children"?
Not enough for free?
No wonder the Tea & hAy had to remove comments.
The honest, hardworking taxpayer funding again
Posted by: The Gent, Bradford on 1:39pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I Work for a boiler manufacturer and the type of Boiler and radiators in question cant be bought for £770 inc vat & delivery. The boiler alone alone would cost around £650 plus Vat, with the best radiators on the market. The £2700 grant usually covers a 3 bed semi with 5 new rads. It all depends on what is needed and the extras that are requested by the customer. An average 3 bed with 5 rads on the private market would be at least £2700 by any decent installer doing the job well.
I Work for a boiler manufacturer and the type of Boiler and radiators in question cant be bought for £770 inc vat & delivery. The boiler alone alone would cost around £650 plus Vat, with the best radiators on the market. The £2700 grant usually covers a 3 bed semi with 5 new rads. It all depends on what is needed and the extras that are requested by the customer. An average 3 bed with 5 rads on the private market would be at least £2700 by any decent installer doing the job well.
Posted by: tannyK, bradford on 2:22pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I had just a boiler replaced by a warm front grant 2 years ago- basically he can have his boiler replaced only Im sure of this as this was done for me - my raditators stayed in
On anoter note should the story be rewritten Mr Smith of so and so having difficultie with warmfront- NO I dont think so - the issues is about the level of grant that has failing in real terms due to the high prices we pay in the UK - if he wants it and is eligible for it he should get it. We dont set the criteria the government does! I do agree though what is his "children up to"
I had just a boiler replaced by a warm front grant 2 years ago- basically he can have his boiler replaced only Im sure of this as this was done for me - my raditators stayed in
On anoter note should the story be rewritten Mr Smith of so and so having difficultie with warmfront- NO I dont think so - the issues is about the level of grant that has failing in real terms due to the high prices we pay in the UK - if he wants it and is eligible for it he should get it. We dont set the criteria the government does! I do agree though what is his "children up to"
Posted by: TheStraightPath, Manningham on 3:06pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I have to say,im totally gobsmacked by the article.It may have been an effort to highlight some issues with the warmfront grant,but this article in no way,does any favours for the chap involved,im sure the situation can be helped from within his family,there was absolutely no need to dig himself into a whole by doing this.This just paves the way for individuals who have issues with others,and provides ammunition to sweeping generalisations of communities.
I have to say,im totally gobsmacked by the article.It may have been an effort to highlight some issues with the warmfront grant,but this article in no way,does any favours for the chap involved,im sure the situation can be helped from within his family,there was absolutely no need to dig himself into a whole by doing this.This just paves the way for individuals who have issues with others,and provides ammunition to sweeping generalisations of communities.
Posted by: flowerbean on 3:24pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GEOFF[/bold] wrote: HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION[/quote] Quite right Geoff. I am a plumber and if Mr Kahn wants to get in touch with me I will supply and fit his boiler and give him new radiators for £2700 and I'll give him £1000 back in cash, it'll only take me a couple of days, then I can have the rest of the week off. It seems the wacko's in the government's Warmfront department are quite prepared to pay 3 times the cost for things like this. Although, I do not agree that this man deserves the grant if he can't be bothered to look after his health properly and won't get his sponging kids to chip in. [/quote] do you need a mate james??
James wrote:
GEOFF wrote: HE COULD MAYBE GET A DSS LOAN FOR THIS? I SPOKE TO A PLUMBER TO PRICE A BOILER, SAME QUALITY, THEY REALLY DONT COST NEARLY £3000,LOOKS TO ME LIKE WARM FRONT CONTRACTORS ARE RIPPING THE GOV GRANT SYSTEM,BUT ITS HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 70S+80S NO REGULATION
Quite right Geoff. I am a plumber and if Mr Kahn wants to get in touch with me I will supply and fit his boiler and give him new radiators for £2700 and I'll give him £1000 back in cash, it'll only take me a couple of days, then I can have the rest of the week off. It seems the wacko's in the government's Warmfront department are quite prepared to pay 3 times the cost for things like this. Although, I do not agree that this man deserves the grant if he can't be bothered to look after his health properly and won't get his sponging kids to chip in.
do you need a mate james??
Posted by: I ALI, Bradford on 4:19pm Tue 25 Mar 08
His two Adult kids should get off their backsides & pay that £500 themselves by getting a Job!
I would be laughing if I had to pay that little for a new boiler.
His two Adult kids should get off their backsides & pay that £500 themselves by getting a Job!
I would be laughing if I had to pay that little for a new boiler.
Posted by: hobbsy, Brad on 4:40pm Tue 25 Mar 08
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Despite being placed on dialysis three years ago, Mr Joseph has continued to work as a foundry worker for Terrill Bros foundry in Hammerton Street, Bradford.
Mr Hussein - read this article and learn a lesson in how to be honest and hard-working... even under severe duress
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Despite being placed on dialysis three years ago, Mr Joseph has continued to work as a foundry worker for Terrill Bros foundry in Hammerton Street, Bradford.
Mr Hussein - read this article and learn a lesson in how to be honest and hard-working... even under severe duress
Posted by: Al Spade, Bradford on 5:05pm Tue 25 Mar 08
£3000 for just a boiler? You are being ripped off big time, Mr Hussein. I got a whole new central heating system in my house for less than that. Trouble is, I had to pay for it myself!
£3000 for just a boiler? You are being ripped off big time, Mr Hussein. I got a whole new central heating system in my house for less than that. Trouble is, I had to pay for it myself!
Posted by: Woody, Manningham on 6:40pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]albion[/bold] wrote:
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?[/quote] It the T and A if they dont like what you are saying they take it off.
Thing you cant metion on here
1 THE BNP
2 Anything which knocks BRADFORD
3 Anything jugementel about the people off BRADFORD
[/quote] They were probably removed for being racist, which is illegal.
chris wrote:
albion wrote:
There were a handful of posts on here earlier (some raising valid points) but for some reason now removed, why bother having the "add your comment" section?
It the T and A if they dont like what you are saying they take it off.
Thing you cant metion on here
1 THE BNP
2 Anything which knocks BRADFORD
3 Anything jugementel about the people off BRADFORD
They were probably removed for being racist, which is illegal.
Posted by: albert2007, at home on 6:53pm Tue 25 Mar 08
has he just got up or going to bed in his jimjams,
has he just got up or going to bed in his jimjams,
Posted by: cibasteve, bratfud on 6:58pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Al Spade[/bold] wrote:
£3000 for just a boiler? You are being ripped off big time, Mr Hussein. I got a whole new central heating system in my house for less than that. Trouble is, I had to pay for it myself![/quote] Yes and my 80 year old mother is splashing out on a central heating system from her own pocket after paying into the countries funds all her life.
Why is it the owt for nowt brigade are never satisfied.
He'll be asking for help to pay the gas bill next!
Al Spade wrote:
£3000 for just a boiler? You are being ripped off big time, Mr Hussein. I got a whole new central heating system in my house for less than that. Trouble is, I had to pay for it myself!
Yes and my 80 year old mother is splashing out on a central heating system from her own pocket after paying into the countries funds all her life.
Why is it the owt for nowt brigade are never satisfied.
He'll be asking for help to pay the gas bill next!
Posted by: steve080, Bradford on 8:06pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I have to agree, to me if you have 70% of the cost paid you can hardly complain if you have to fork out a little.
I am not entitled to any grant and would have to pay my own way, I am also diabetic but manage to hold down a full time job, this grant is ment for pensioners who have paid their taxes and are unable to work, not for people who have 3 people of workable age who obviously cant be arsed and think the UK owes them a living.
Get the 13 year old out on a paper round, by next winter you could afford a few electric fires!!
I have to agree, to me if you have 70% of the cost paid you can hardly complain if you have to fork out a little.
I am not entitled to any grant and would have to pay my own way, I am also diabetic but manage to hold down a full time job, this grant is ment for pensioners who have paid their taxes and are unable to work, not for people who have 3 people of workable age who obviously cant be arsed and think the UK owes them a living.
Get the 13 year old out on a paper round, by next winter you could afford a few electric fires!!
Posted by: Alan, Silsden on 8:35pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Can't get a boiler for £2,700? Somebody is having a laugh!
As somebody who spends their life procuring works in construction I find that a complete joke!
I won't even comment on the grant, but I'm going to see if my 86 year old mother can get it. But she worked all her life, so what chance has she?
Can't get a boiler for £2,700? Somebody is having a laugh!
As somebody who spends their life procuring works in construction I find that a complete joke!
I won't even comment on the grant, but I'm going to see if my 86 year old mother can get it. But she worked all her life, so what chance has she?
Posted by: bradfordian, bradford on 8:48pm Tue 25 Mar 08
you do not have to be a pensioner to get this grant.if you get disability living allowance you can get this grant.and,it is not only the boiler to be paid for,it's the labour as well.i would not expect my children to pay my bills ect.god help us all with some of the attitudes around.maybe we should remember,there but the grace of god go i.diabetes affects people differently.heart disease is a major problem for some diabetics.not all diabetics are affected the same way.
you do not have to be a pensioner to get this grant.if you get disability living allowance you can get this grant.and,it is not only the boiler to be paid for,it's the labour as well.i would not expect my children to pay my bills ect.god help us all with some of the attitudes around.maybe we should remember,there but the grace of god go i.diabetes affects people differently.heart disease is a major problem for some diabetics.not all diabetics are affected the same way.
Posted by: Alan, Silsden on 9:18pm Tue 25 Mar 08
The point is that £2,700 for the supply and fitting of a boiler for a domestic house is a joke!
Somebody who administers this scheme wants their backside kicking!
No wonder we pay so much tax when we are being ripped off!
The point is that £2,700 for the supply and fitting of a boiler for a domestic house is a joke!
Somebody who administers this scheme wants their backside kicking!
No wonder we pay so much tax when we are being ripped off!
Posted by: pc panday, wyke on 9:25pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Why the freebies? Let him use a coal fire to keep warm or alternatively they do some cheap electric heaters in most good electrical stores. Hot water is a luxury this sponging family should have to pay for themselves
Why the freebies? Let him use a coal fire to keep warm or alternatively they do some cheap electric heaters in most good electrical stores. Hot water is a luxury this sponging family should have to pay for themselves
Posted by: Nahim, bradford on 10:33pm Tue 25 Mar 08
i agree with with few people here, its his house,he and his family wants to keep warm, they should go out there and buy the boiler and other parts they need. no one should be able to pay for these sort of people when we can help old age pensioners who needs all the help.
cowboy firm who charges are so high,its costing tax's payers, its bad enough with people who has every thing, have you not asked if this family has anything in pakistan, i bet they have properties, money in pakistan, why can't they bring it here and invest in there boiler and heating, rest of us have to.
the rest in the house are not kids, they should go out there for work, instead of not working.
i agree with with few people here, its his house,he and his family wants to keep warm, they should go out there and buy the boiler and other parts they need. no one should be able to pay for these sort of people when we can help old age pensioners who needs all the help.
cowboy firm who charges are so high,its costing tax's payers, its bad enough with people who has every thing, have you not asked if this family has anything in pakistan, i bet they have properties, money in pakistan, why can't they bring it here and invest in there boiler and heating, rest of us have to.
the rest in the house are not kids, they should go out there for work, instead of not working.
Posted by: Pete, Bradford on 11:12pm Tue 25 Mar 08
£2700 to supply and fit a boiler - unbelievable!
I will do it for £1700 and make a fat profit - all done and dusted in 5 hrs max.
£2700 to supply and fit a boiler - unbelievable!
I will do it for £1700 and make a fat profit - all done and dusted in 5 hrs max.
Posted by: last one turn off the light, Cyprus on 7:36am Wed 26 Mar 08
free house, boiler, healthcare, benefits, education...... think i shoudl move back to england and retire!!!!!
free house, boiler, healthcare, benefits, education...... think i shoudl move back to england and retire!!!!!
Posted by: ??????? on 5:26pm Wed 26 Mar 08
for one it does not say anything of him been on benefits, i think you lot are just targeting snother person on low income and because hes asian,[bold]bold[/bold]
for one it does not say anything of him been on benefits, i think you lot are just targeting snother person on low income and because hes asian,
Posted by: albion, west riding on 8:53pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]???????[/bold] wrote:
for one it does not say anything of him been on benefits, i think you lot are just targeting snother person on low income and because hes asian,[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] A good number of these who have posted are asians, the grant is only available to people on benefits or very low incomes such as pensioners.
??????? wrote:
for one it does not say anything of him been on benefits, i think you lot are just targeting snother person on low income and because hes asian,
A good number of these who have posted are asians, the grant is only available to people on benefits or very low incomes such as pensioners.
Posted by: Agatha Worzel, Here on 10:52am Thu 27 Mar 08
what do you mean ... 'because hes asian' he doesn't look asian he looks more like he's from the middle east not the far east - 'Asian' people are people from China and Japan, not Bangladesh and Pakistan - get your terminology correct.
what do you mean ... 'because hes asian' he doesn't look asian he looks more like he's from the middle east not the far east - 'Asian' people are people from China and Japan, not Bangladesh and Pakistan - get your terminology correct.
Posted by: albion, west riding on 11:20am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Agatha Worzel[/bold] wrote:
what do you mean ... 'because hes asian' he doesn't look asian he looks more like he's from the middle east not the far east - 'Asian' people are people from China and Japan, not Bangladesh and Pakistan - get your terminology correct.[/quote] Is Frank Sidebottom Asian? only you cant tell with that false head on.
Agatha Worzel wrote:
what do you mean ... 'because hes asian' he doesn't look asian he looks more like he's from the middle east not the far east - 'Asian' people are people from China and Japan, not Bangladesh and Pakistan - get your terminology correct.
Is Frank Sidebottom Asian? only you cant tell with that false head on.
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