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| Skipper Paul Deacon can hardly bear to watch as the Bulls concede another try on the way to their biggest Super League defeat to arch-rivals Leeds |
Honest Steve McNamara did not look for excuses after seeing champions Leeds annihilate his Bulls side.
The red-hot Rhinos inflicted their biggest-ever Super League winning margin over arch-rivals Bradford, completely destroying them 44-2 in a ruthless destruction last night.
The embarrassed Bulls made far too many glaring errors and were easily over-run by the classy table-toppers, who go four points clear and remarkably have not conceded a single try in two games.
Boss McNamara admitted: "Leeds were very good and we were poor but I won't take anything away from Leeds.
"We were beaten in every department. They were more energised than us and we made a lot of tired tackles. They seemed to capitalise on every little error we made.
"We've got to wear this one on the chin and cop it but it hurts like hell.
"We're all very disappointed and it's certainly not a nice taste but the saving grace is that we only have to wait until Monday to rectify it."
Bradford, without six regulars, shipped eight tries as the world club champions controlled the game from start to finish at Headingley.
The visitors looked jaded, having played just four days earlier - Leeds beat Harlequins last Friday - but McNamara would not hide behind that for the catastrophic hiding.
"There are reasons for this loss but it would be wrong of me to use them as an excuse for the scoreline," he said.
"It happens. We've done this to sides and seen other sides come here and have it done to them. It's how we respond and rectify it that counts.
"There's no worry; within our dressing room there's a very good rugby league side. There's also half of a very good side that wasn't out there last night."
But none of the Bulls' crocked stars are likely to be back for the visit of Harlequins on Easter Monday - Paul Sykes has an "outside chance" - and they were hit by another casualty when back-rower Simon Finnigan (hip) limped off last night.
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CommentPosted by: BullGem29, Bradford on 8:46am Fri 21 Mar 08
Last nights performance was an absolute shambles. I've said it since the start of the season, that Bulls squad are not fit. It shows in the current number of injuries and the amount of players puffing and blowing last night was a joke. Something needs to be done! I'm not a glory supporter and I don't care for Bulls losing to a good side as Leeds were very good defensively last night but at least they could lose and play well but they didn't even do that. It was a disgrace!!!! I was actually waiting for McNamara to do the broken record routine and say we made too many mistakes
Last nights performance was an absolute shambles. I've said it since the start of the season, that Bulls squad are not fit. It shows in the current number of injuries and the amount of players puffing and blowing last night was a joke. Something needs to be done! I'm not a glory supporter and I don't care for Bulls losing to a good side as Leeds were very good defensively last night but at least they could lose and play well but they didn't even do that. It was a disgrace!!!! I was actually waiting for McNamara to do the broken record routine and say we made too many mistakes
Posted by: AGJ, Bradford on 8:50am Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][italic]There are reasons for this loss but it would be wrong of me to use them as an excuse for the scoreline," he said.[/italic]
...... Well I would like to know what those reasons are ??
There are reasons for this loss but it would be wrong of me to use them as an excuse for the scoreline," he said.
...... Well I would like to know what those reasons are ??
Posted by: Vic60, Brighouse on 9:07am Fri 21 Mar 08
The Bulls looked tired out from the start, but more importantly, some of the players just can't tackle effectively - snatching at an opponent's chest area instead of getting stuck in and tackling round the trunk & legs. We have some very average players who can't raise their game.
The Bulls looked tired out from the start, but more importantly, some of the players just can't tackle effectively - snatching at an opponent's chest area instead of getting stuck in and tackling round the trunk & legs. We have some very average players who can't raise their game.
Posted by: witters, Bradford on 9:15am Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Vic60[/bold] wrote:
The Bulls looked tired out from the start, but more importantly, some of the players just can't tackle effectively - snatching at an opponent's chest area instead of getting stuck in and tackling round the trunk & legs. We have some very average players who can't raise their game. [/quote] Well the players tackled against Warrington though, didn't they? That's not the problem. As has been said before - they lack fitness and some decent coaching and motivation.
Vic60 wrote:
The Bulls looked tired out from the start, but more importantly, some of the players just can't tackle effectively - snatching at an opponent's chest area instead of getting stuck in and tackling round the trunk & legs. We have some very average players who can't raise their game.
Well the players tackled against Warrington though, didn't they? That's not the problem. As has been said before - they lack fitness and some decent coaching and motivation.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:00am Fri 21 Mar 08
Bulls being 'tired' half a dozen games into the season could indeed be a lack of fitness. I saw a Leeds side really motivated, backing up the man with the ball, great shape defensivly etc., Mclennon did this with the NZ international side. He and his coaching staff should be proud whilst I'm afraid Macca and his boys should take a long look at themselves. I was dismayed to see Hape playing right side. Had he been in his rightful pos. alongside Semi and Sol I believe the Bulls may have had a try or two. Why not keep the strong left side intact instead of playing a weakened left AND right side.??
Bulls being 'tired' half a dozen games into the season could indeed be a lack of fitness. I saw a Leeds side really motivated, backing up the man with the ball, great shape defensivly etc., Mclennon did this with the NZ international side. He and his coaching staff should be proud whilst I'm afraid Macca and his boys should take a long look at themselves. I was dismayed to see Hape playing right side. Had he been in his rightful pos. alongside Semi and Sol I believe the Bulls may have had a try or two. Why not keep the strong left side intact instead of playing a weakened left AND right side.??
Posted by: SHAUN, richmond on 10:01am Fri 21 Mar 08
"Shaun" How bad are the BULLS??!!
Thats all I got from business pals at the match last night!
A sense of sadness decended over everyone eventually....even Rhinos supporters???
Everyone felt a bit hollow???
We all know whats coming next!!!
"Shaun" How bad are the BULLS??!!
Thats all I got from business pals at the match last night!
A sense of sadness decended over everyone eventually....even Rhinos supporters???
Everyone felt a bit hollow???
We all know whats coming next!!!
Posted by: Chris, P Bacon on 10:53am Fri 21 Mar 08
Bradford all over, tacky tacky tacky.
Bradford all over, tacky tacky tacky.
Posted by: superman, Silsden on 11:25am Fri 21 Mar 08
IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!!
SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE.
BYE BYE MCNAMARA!
IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!!
SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE.
BYE BYE MCNAMARA!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 11:34am Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]superman[/bold] wrote:
IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!! SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE. BYE BYE MCNAMARA![/quote] Hi superman, Wish it was so simple.who will replace him and what top coach wants to come to a club which(although unlikely) could be bancrupt with the Harris case? Leeds may have stuffed us on and off the field.
superman wrote:
IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!! SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE. BYE BYE MCNAMARA!
Hi superman, Wish it was so simple.who will replace him and what top coach wants to come to a club which(although unlikely) could be bancrupt with the Harris case? Leeds may have stuffed us on and off the field.
Posted by: rugby guru, Bradford on 12:33pm Fri 21 Mar 08
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
Posted by: skippy on 12:41pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]superman[/bold] wrote: IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!! SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE. BYE BYE MCNAMARA![/quote] Hi superman, Wish it was so simple.who will replace him and what top coach wants to come to a club which(although unlikely) could be bancrupt with the Harris case? Leeds may have stuffed us on and off the field.[/quote] please feel free to take jacobs
haitch wrote:
superman wrote: IT'S SIMPLE, MCNAMARA HAS TO GO!!!! SACK HIM NOW, AS A MANAGER HE HASN'T A CLUE. BYE BYE MCNAMARA!
Hi superman, Wish it was so simple.who will replace him and what top coach wants to come to a club which(although unlikely) could be bancrupt with the Harris case? Leeds may have stuffed us on and off the field.
please feel free to take jacobs
Posted by: Charlie Mc, Bradford on 12:46pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Nobody will like playing us come the end of the season?
Like last year?
Nobody will like playing us come the end of the season?
Like last year?
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 12:46pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] What does it take for some people to see the writing on the wall..come on! We all love the Bulls but let's not call a spade a shovel!!
rugby guru wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
What does it take for some people to see the writing on the wall..come on! We all love the Bulls but let's not call a spade a shovel!!
Posted by: Brian, Wibsey on 1:12pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel.
I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault.
People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time.
As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope
fully.
rugby guru wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel.
I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault.
People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time.
As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope
fully.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 1:19pm Fri 21 Mar 08
So hard to stay positive after a performance like that. I take my hat off to you guys!!
So hard to stay positive after a performance like that. I take my hat off to you guys!!
Posted by: damo, wibsey on 2:13pm Fri 21 Mar 08
how many times have i and lj said that deacon is not good enough?it showed even more last night his kicking was the same old crap he gives the team nothing
how many times have i and lj said that deacon is not good enough?it showed even more last night his kicking was the same old crap he gives the team nothing
Posted by: rugby guru, Bradford on 2:40pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel. I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault. People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time. As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope fully. [/quote] Thanks Brian you talk a lot of sense.
The Bulls are better armed this season than last year, we've added speed. We will do very well later in the season. Everyone should make their judgements on how go were are when we get a full squad out and not half a side. I'm the first to be critical when its needed, but anyone with a bit of sense can see why we are not on top form yet.
Brian Smith said it all about MacNamara that he would a natural coach and do very well. I respect Smith’s comments as he knows what he is talking about, so lay off MacNarmara you doubters.
Brian wrote:
rugby guru wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel. I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault. People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time. As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope fully.
Thanks Brian you talk a lot of sense.
The Bulls are better armed this season than last year, we've added speed. We will do very well later in the season. Everyone should make their judgements on how go were are when we get a full squad out and not half a side. I'm the first to be critical when its needed, but anyone with a bit of sense can see why we are not on top form yet.
Brian Smith said it all about MacNamara that he would a natural coach and do very well. I respect Smith’s comments as he knows what he is talking about, so lay off MacNarmara you doubters.
Posted by: Ali Baba, VP on 2:58pm Fri 21 Mar 08
The biggest problem is that over the years players have come and gone, when they have gone we have not replaced them with the same quality.
Vainikolo is an exception because quite honestly, who do you replace a man that can score a try a game over a 5 year period, the thing is, you can't.
McNamara was a great player, but I was a bit skeptical when he was appointed as manager. He had big shoes to fill in the previous few that had managed the Bulls.
Looks like a 2nd season not holding a title of any sort from the 1st kick of the season to the last. Cant remember the last time that has happened for us. Last year was the first in almost a decade not to hold any title.
The biggest problem is that over the years players have come and gone, when they have gone we have not replaced them with the same quality.
Vainikolo is an exception because quite honestly, who do you replace a man that can score a try a game over a 5 year period, the thing is, you can't.
McNamara was a great player, but I was a bit skeptical when he was appointed as manager. He had big shoes to fill in the previous few that had managed the Bulls.
Looks like a 2nd season not holding a title of any sort from the 1st kick of the season to the last. Cant remember the last time that has happened for us. Last year was the first in almost a decade not to hold any title.
Posted by: sean, Bradford on 3:07pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Fellas - Firstly Leeds defensively were outstanding last night hard as that is to say. They also took full advantage of almost all our basic errors. I suspect that we missed our injured players more than they missed theirs. I had fears that the "quantity not quality" recruiting policy might back-fire but it's still too early to say. Another point to consider - Leeds pre-season training has been geared to peaking for World Club Championship - there is no way on this earth that they can keep those levels up for the rest of the season - other clubs - Bulls included - have trained to peak later in the season. So keep the faith - McNamara is going nowhere - nor should he. It was an awful night but it's a long long old season!
Fellas - Firstly Leeds defensively were outstanding last night hard as that is to say. They also took full advantage of almost all our basic errors. I suspect that we missed our injured players more than they missed theirs. I had fears that the "quantity not quality" recruiting policy might back-fire but it's still too early to say. Another point to consider - Leeds pre-season training has been geared to peaking for World Club Championship - there is no way on this earth that they can keep those levels up for the rest of the season - other clubs - Bulls included - have trained to peak later in the season. So keep the faith - McNamara is going nowhere - nor should he. It was an awful night but it's a long long old season!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 3:09pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel. I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault. People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time. As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope fully. [/quote] Thanks Brian you talk a lot of sense. The Bulls are better armed this season than last year, we've added speed. We will do very well later in the season. Everyone should make their judgements on how go were are when we get a full squad out and not half a side. I'm the first to be critical when its needed, but anyone with a bit of sense can see why we are not on top form yet. Brian Smith said it all about MacNamara that he would a natural coach and do very well. I respect Smith’s comments as he knows what he is talking about, so lay off MacNarmara you doubters.[/quote] I'll accept your comments re patience and all that but for goodnes sake..half a side?? Leeds were equally as badly hit by injury. I don't believe Macca has to go..yet.. but that performance is totally unacceptable and Macca's the boss so the buck stops there. I believe he should be criticised and not pampered to in a 'do good' manner. Not good enough!!!!
rugby guru wrote:
Brian wrote: rugby guru wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
Well said Guru. Were all down in the dumps about last night but you simply have to give the new lads time to gel. I remember hearing all this when saints gave us an even worse hammering at home at couple of years back and we went and won the GF. Leeds mauled us at Odsal and everyone was saying that Ben Harris, Withers, Pratt, Radford, Meyers were garbage and we'd never win anything again. Noble was going to be sacked etc. Now all those same people are saying we were a much better squad then but the problems in the squad are not Maccas fault. People need to keep their nerve. This is a good squad and some of the additions like Jeffires, Sykes and Finnegan are looking promising. Nero has been disappointing but give the bloke time. As Guru says we'll be knocking on the door come the business end and those who've kept faith will be rubbing the doubters noses in it..............hope fully.
Thanks Brian you talk a lot of sense. The Bulls are better armed this season than last year, we've added speed. We will do very well later in the season. Everyone should make their judgements on how go were are when we get a full squad out and not half a side. I'm the first to be critical when its needed, but anyone with a bit of sense can see why we are not on top form yet. Brian Smith said it all about MacNamara that he would a natural coach and do very well. I respect Smith’s comments as he knows what he is talking about, so lay off MacNarmara you doubters.
I'll accept your comments re patience and all that but for goodnes sake..half a side?? Leeds were equally as badly hit by injury. I don't believe Macca has to go..yet.. but that performance is totally unacceptable and Macca's the boss so the buck stops there. I believe he should be criticised and not pampered to in a 'do good' manner. Not good enough!!!!
Posted by: Charlie Mc, Bradford on 3:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Yep Brian Smith (famed for never winning anything as a coach) rates McNamara, maybe there is something in that eh?
Yep Brian Smith (famed for never winning anything as a coach) rates McNamara, maybe there is something in that eh?
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 4:02pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 4:17pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote:
Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
LeagueJunkie wrote:
Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Posted by: born n bred, Bradford on 4:22pm Fri 21 Mar 08
I can agree with one point. Deacon as much as he's a gutsy player is easily read. His kicking game is poor, and when its good it's only average, and for a half back he has average pace. He has had the benefit of some excellent forwards around him or he would have been found out sooner
I can agree with one point. Deacon as much as he's a gutsy player is easily read. His kicking game is poor, and when its good it's only average, and for a half back he has average pace. He has had the benefit of some excellent forwards around him or he would have been found out sooner
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 4:26pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!![/quote] Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
haitch wrote:
LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
Posted by: Brian, Wibsey on 4:41pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!![/quote] Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.[/quote] Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk?
LeagueJunkie wrote:
haitch wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk?
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 4:45pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!![/quote] Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.[/quote] Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk? [/quote] Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys?
The choice is yours.
Brian wrote:
LeagueJunkie wrote: haitch wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk?
Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys?
The choice is yours.
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 4:47pm Fri 21 Mar 08
If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?
If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?
Posted by: EMMAG on 5:33pm Fri 21 Mar 08
I am sure this wont go down well with some people on here but personally although the defeat was shocking I thought we werent as bad as we are been made out I just think Leeds were fantasic in every part of the game. Particually impressed with feather and semi.
LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly. HAHAHA PATIENCE PLEASE
I am sure this wont go down well with some people on here but personally although the defeat was shocking I thought we werent as bad as we are been made out I just think Leeds were fantasic in every part of the game. Particually impressed with feather and semi.
LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly. HAHAHA PATIENCE PLEASE
Posted by: Brian, Wibsey on 5:48pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!![/quote] Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.[/quote] Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk? [/quote] Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys? The choice is yours.[/quote] That's precisely what Noble did. Your calling for us to reinstate the bloke who signed the player you reckon is the worst half in the league for £1m thereby causing us to lose both Pryce and Peacock (2 players who've been excellent this weekend)
It's alright calling for a bloke's head but just now and again you could use joined up thinking.
LeagueJunkie wrote:
Brian wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: haitch wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk?
Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys? The choice is yours.
That's precisely what Noble did. Your calling for us to reinstate the bloke who signed the player you reckon is the worst half in the league for £1m thereby causing us to lose both Pryce and Peacock (2 players who've been excellent this weekend)
It's alright calling for a bloke's head but just now and again you could use joined up thinking.
Posted by: Brian, Wibsey on 5:50pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote:
If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?[/quote] Yes. We'll finish in the top 4 and get to the GF.
LeagueJunkie wrote:
If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?
Yes. We'll finish in the top 4 and get to the GF.
Posted by: damo, wibsey on 5:59pm Fri 21 Mar 08
what a joke feather a good forward thats a laugh he is a big plank bulls going nowere fast macnamara a good player dont make me laugh just like deacon to slow to thick and no good at kicking is that why he likes deacon so much?
what a joke feather a good forward thats a laugh he is a big plank bulls going nowere fast macnamara a good player dont make me laugh just like deacon to slow to thick and no good at kicking is that why he likes deacon so much?
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 6:02pm Fri 21 Mar 08
It was very bad and very painful and there is no point pretending otherwise. I do think the 4 day turnaround from a very tough encounter with Wire, as opposed to their 6 day turnaround from a canter against Harlequins played a large part, but we still shouldn't have been that lamentable. The team that was out there wasn't that weak either. I, like all of you, can't say exactly why it was, but the players and Macca have to put their hands in the air and say that so far it isn't good enough, we don't look fit enough and we don't look to have enough stomach for the fight at times either and Deacon cannot give us performances like that in big games when we need something from him and expect to keep his job. I spoke to a Rhino fan this morning and he said he and the people around him were disappointed with the Bulls, they'd never seen a Bradford side so weak and disjointed and so easily discouraged. Macca can't pretend that's just down to injuries and lack of time for preparation. it's a long season and we can still be right in there at the end, but a lot of work needs to be done and now.
It was very bad and very painful and there is no point pretending otherwise. I do think the 4 day turnaround from a very tough encounter with Wire, as opposed to their 6 day turnaround from a canter against Harlequins played a large part, but we still shouldn't have been that lamentable. The team that was out there wasn't that weak either. I, like all of you, can't say exactly why it was, but the players and Macca have to put their hands in the air and say that so far it isn't good enough, we don't look fit enough and we don't look to have enough stomach for the fight at times either and Deacon cannot give us performances like that in big games when we need something from him and expect to keep his job. I spoke to a Rhino fan this morning and he said he and the people around him were disappointed with the Bulls, they'd never seen a Bradford side so weak and disjointed and so easily discouraged. Macca can't pretend that's just down to injuries and lack of time for preparation. it's a long season and we can still be right in there at the end, but a lot of work needs to be done and now.
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 6:19pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.[/quote] So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!![/quote] Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.[/quote] Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk? [/quote] Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys? The choice is yours.[/quote] That's precisely what Noble did. Your calling for us to reinstate the bloke who signed the player you reckon is the worst half in the league for £1m thereby causing us to lose both Pryce and Peacock (2 players who've been excellent this weekend) It's alright calling for a bloke's head but just now and again you could use joined up thinking. [/quote] Eh? We never languised in 7th, with a below 50% win average nearly two months into the year.
Be real to yourself Bri, we never looked like a mid table side with Noble in charge, you cant really so that we dont now.
Im calling for a bloke to be reinstated who is a first class coach, A who can motivate his team(usually) to win big and important games, a coach who demands the respect of players.
Can you imagine a Bulls side under Nobles control just plainly lying down and being run over at Headingley.
Macca should leave, or be sacked.
Brian wrote:
LeagueJunkie wrote: Brian wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: haitch wrote: LeagueJunkie wrote: Somebody send McNamara a taxi. the man cant do his job correcly.
So where's the Taxi heading LJ?? I suspect some Wigan fans will want it to pick up Noble on the way looking at today's result!!!
Id rather have Noble than Macca anyday of the week.
Definitely - he could re-sign that Aussie flyer Ben Harris or see if the evergreen Chris McKenna would come back. The most pressing task of course is pursuading Iestyn to extend that contract. Is Mick Withers still able to walk?
Or we could carry on signing relegation fodder and look like a mid table side, uncapable to win against the big boys? The choice is yours.
That's precisely what Noble did. Your calling for us to reinstate the bloke who signed the player you reckon is the worst half in the league for £1m thereby causing us to lose both Pryce and Peacock (2 players who've been excellent this weekend) It's alright calling for a bloke's head but just now and again you could use joined up thinking.
Eh? We never languised in 7th, with a below 50% win average nearly two months into the year.
Be real to yourself Bri, we never looked like a mid table side with Noble in charge, you cant really so that we dont now.
Im calling for a bloke to be reinstated who is a first class coach, A who can motivate his team(usually) to win big and important games, a coach who demands the respect of players.
Can you imagine a Bulls side under Nobles control just plainly lying down and being run over at Headingley.
Macca should leave, or be sacked.
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 6:22pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Brian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]LeagueJunkie[/bold] wrote: If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?[/quote] Yes. We'll finish in the top 4 and get to the GF. [/quote] Good, I should hope you would.
Seriously though Brian. Have you been on those funny fags.
We wont make the top for or the Grand final.
WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Brian wrote:
LeagueJunkie wrote: If we finish below 4th and dont get to the GF are you going to acknowledge that I was correct all along?
Yes. We'll finish in the top 4 and get to the GF.
Good, I should hope you would.
Seriously though Brian. Have you been on those funny fags.
We wont make the top for or the Grand final.
WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 6:46pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Try not to sound so happy about it LJ.
Try not to sound so happy about it LJ.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 6:48pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Whilst I think it's early to call for Maccas head I do honestly believe an established top coach could turn it around quickly even with the current squad But never Noble who is distinctly average.
Whilst I think it's early to call for Maccas head I do honestly believe an established top coach could turn it around quickly even with the current squad But never Noble who is distinctly average.
Posted by: AGJ, Bradford on 7:19pm Fri 21 Mar 08
I blame Noble for the mess we are in now - look at how many good, young quality players we had that he just got rid of - Pryce, Reardon, Bridge, Ferres the list goes on .... Brian Noble knew he was going long before the job at Wigan came up - he just went earlier than he anticipated. That is why McNamara turned down the job at Hull. I don't believe in sacking coaches but something has to be done - how about a good assistant coach AND a new conditioner - Martin Clawson doesn't look a picture of fitness - does he ?
I blame Noble for the mess we are in now - look at how many good, young quality players we had that he just got rid of - Pryce, Reardon, Bridge, Ferres the list goes on .... Brian Noble knew he was going long before the job at Wigan came up - he just went earlier than he anticipated. That is why McNamara turned down the job at Hull. I don't believe in sacking coaches but something has to be done - how about a good assistant coach AND a new conditioner - Martin Clawson doesn't look a picture of fitness - does he ?
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 7:23pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]AGJ[/bold] wrote:
I blame Noble for the mess we are in now - look at how many good, young quality players we had that he just got rid of - Pryce, Reardon, Bridge, Ferres the list goes on .... Brian Noble knew he was going long before the job at Wigan came up - he just went earlier than he anticipated. That is why McNamara turned down the job at Hull. I don't believe in sacking coaches but something has to be done - how about a good assistant coach AND a new conditioner - Martin Clawson doesn't look a picture of fitness - does he ?[/quote] Can't argue with that and bang goes the theory bulls were tired after a 4 day turn around as Warrington 'cruised'to a victory over Giants!!
AGJ wrote:
I blame Noble for the mess we are in now - look at how many good, young quality players we had that he just got rid of - Pryce, Reardon, Bridge, Ferres the list goes on .... Brian Noble knew he was going long before the job at Wigan came up - he just went earlier than he anticipated. That is why McNamara turned down the job at Hull. I don't believe in sacking coaches but something has to be done - how about a good assistant coach AND a new conditioner - Martin Clawson doesn't look a picture of fitness - does he ?
Can't argue with that and bang goes the theory bulls were tired after a 4 day turn around as Warrington 'cruised'to a victory over Giants!!
Posted by: Big Mal, Bradford on 7:29pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Was anyone really surprised at last night's result, or the postion in the League?
they've gone steadily downhill after Noble's departure and the close seasuon signings were uninspiring.
There's plenty more night's ahead like last night!
Was anyone really surprised at last night's result, or the postion in the League?
they've gone steadily downhill after Noble's departure and the close seasuon signings were uninspiring.
There's plenty more night's ahead like last night!
Posted by: Animal 666, Scholes on 8:16pm Fri 21 Mar 08
The Bradford board are to blame for the mess we are in. The signing of useless Harris must go down as the biggest mistake in our proud history. Take about putting all your eggs in one basket. We were world class at the end of 2003 we had youth coming through the ranks , but if you decide to give all your income to a glory seeker who plays for himself then what do you expect. Harris will walk away to Celtic Crusaders a very rich man, and Bradford will be left with egg on their faces. Meanwhile all the talent that we nurtured will be successful wearing the colours of other clubs. Bradford til I Die , but for most of the lads who came through our Academy it was Bradford til Harris came along.
The Bradford board are to blame for the mess we are in. The signing of useless Harris must go down as the biggest mistake in our proud history. Take about putting all your eggs in one basket. We were world class at the end of 2003 we had youth coming through the ranks , but if you decide to give all your income to a glory seeker who plays for himself then what do you expect. Harris will walk away to Celtic Crusaders a very rich man, and Bradford will be left with egg on their faces. Meanwhile all the talent that we nurtured will be successful wearing the colours of other clubs. Bradford til I Die , but for most of the lads who came through our Academy it was Bradford til Harris came along.
Posted by: Animal 666, Scholes on 8:30pm Fri 21 Mar 08
In an earlier thread someone asked who would we replace McNamara with. My answer would be Brian McDermott. His Harlequins side isnt full of stars and he has them playing for the badge with 100% commitment and they play some nice R.L too. Just think what the bloke could do with some decent talented players. All teams reflect their coach in the way they play and under the leadership of Brian McDermott you would get from the bulls team what we got from Brian when he pulled on a bulls shirt...100% commitment,desire, and a willingness to die for the cause. Under McNamara we will only ever get [bold]excuses[/bold] .
In an earlier thread someone asked who would we replace McNamara with. My answer would be Brian McDermott. His Harlequins side isnt full of stars and he has them playing for the badge with 100% commitment and they play some nice R.L too. Just think what the bloke could do with some decent talented players. All teams reflect their coach in the way they play and under the leadership of Brian McDermott you would get from the bulls team what we got from Brian when he pulled on a bulls shirt...100% commitment,desire, and a willingness to die for the cause. Under McNamara we will only ever get
excuses .
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 9:08pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Animal 666[/bold] wrote:
In an earlier thread someone asked who would we replace McNamara with. My answer would be Brian McDermott. His Harlequins side isnt full of stars and he has them playing for the badge with 100% commitment and they play some nice R.L too. Just think what the bloke could do with some decent talented players. All teams reflect their coach in the way they play and under the leadership of Brian McDermott you would get from the bulls team what we got from Brian when he pulled on a bulls shirt...100% commitment,desire, and a willingness to die for the cause. Under McNamara we will only ever get [bold]excuses[/bold] .[/quote] Well I did ask who would replace Macca but thinking more along the lines that any candidate would probably want the Harris affair settled before even considering the job. Then any new coach would not be another 'rookey' but an experienced Head coach with an impeccable record. Calm down everyone it won't happen. Macca is an experiment by the Bulls and it must be given time. Will it work?? Who knows but at the moment it doesn't look that clever.
Animal 666 wrote:
In an earlier thread someone asked who would we replace McNamara with. My answer would be Brian McDermott. His Harlequins side isnt full of stars and he has them playing for the badge with 100% commitment and they play some nice R.L too. Just think what the bloke could do with some decent talented players. All teams reflect their coach in the way they play and under the leadership of Brian McDermott you would get from the bulls team what we got from Brian when he pulled on a bulls shirt...100% commitment,desire, and a willingness to die for the cause. Under McNamara we will only ever get excuses .
Well I did ask who would replace Macca but thinking more along the lines that any candidate would probably want the Harris affair settled before even considering the job. Then any new coach would not be another 'rookey' but an experienced Head coach with an impeccable record. Calm down everyone it won't happen. Macca is an experiment by the Bulls and it must be given time. Will it work?? Who knows but at the moment it doesn't look that clever.
Posted by: Animal 666, Scholes on 9:17pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Some Youths experiment with drugs. In the end most see sense and call it a day. On the other hand those that dont see sense continue with their experiment and end up in a right mess.
Some Youths experiment with drugs. In the end most see sense and call it a day. On the other hand those that dont see sense continue with their experiment and end up in a right mess.
Posted by: cj on 9:41pm Fri 21 Mar 08
what sort of supporters call for the head of the coach so early into the season, some of you ought to be ashamed to call yourselves supporters! yes we were poor defensively but leeds are red hot at the moment, our turn will come! all the negative talk is not productive at all. we all want success but get real! we can't win every time. we had a few players looking tired, they'd had 2 days less to recover than leeds had. turning out a performance like we did on sunday is bound to take it out of them and 3/4 days isn't enough. [bold]true[/bold] supporters will get behind the lads for mondays game and stop the calls for heads!
what sort of supporters call for the head of the coach so early into the season, some of you ought to be ashamed to call yourselves supporters! yes we were poor defensively but leeds are red hot at the moment, our turn will come! all the negative talk is not productive at all. we all want success but get real! we can't win every time. we had a few players looking tired, they'd had 2 days less to recover than leeds had. turning out a performance like we did on sunday is bound to take it out of them and 3/4 days isn't enough.
true supporters will get behind the lads for mondays game and stop the calls for heads!
Posted by: stever, Bradford on 10:27pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] 4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.
rugby guru wrote:
What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.
Posted by: rugby guru, Bradford on 10:38pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]stever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] 4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.[/quote] Well done, nice to see at least someone get a brain!!!
stever wrote:
rugby guru wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.
Well done, nice to see at least someone get a brain!!!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:40pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote][bold]stever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]rugby guru[/bold] wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!![/quote] 4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.[/quote] Guru's post is a little puzzling to say the least. Claims of playing too many games (Wire won easily today)Claims that Leeds have had the same team 4/5 years??( and that they have won nowt.)Add to that the crystal ball that Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and there is little in the post that rings true. I don't object to anyone posting their views and we all can differ but let's stick to facts please.
stever wrote:
rugby guru wrote: What’s the problem? Expecting the Bulls to play a game with only 4 days might be it. The Bulls are not super human. I’d like to hear what an Australian side would say about turning round so soon. I bet all the Super league coaches will be moaning after the Easter period after so many games. The Bulls are a better team than last year, but it takes time will all the new players to deliver. The Leeds side has been the same side for the last 4 to 5 years. How good were Leeds back then ! They did nothing and won now’t. The Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and nobody will like playing us. Let’s all be patient, but I suppose there would be nothing to write about!!
4 Years ago Leeds were Super League Champions I'd say that was doing something wouldn't you.
Guru's post is a little puzzling to say the least. Claims of playing too many games (Wire won easily today)Claims that Leeds have had the same team 4/5 years??( and that they have won nowt.)Add to that the crystal ball that Bulls will be in the shake up at the end of the season and there is little in the post that rings true. I don't object to anyone posting their views and we all can differ but let's stick to facts please.
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 8:43am Sat 22 Mar 08
well said cj, calling for the coach to be sacked is hysterical and silly and plays into all our opponents hands. Real supporters get behind the team, we were very bad on Thursday and the rhinos ran hot when they saw we were falling off the pace. It can happen, the issue is taking it on the chin and accepting that we have to do better, consistently. Good luck to Macca and Long Live The BULLS!!!
well said cj, calling for the coach to be sacked is hysterical and silly and plays into all our opponents hands. Real supporters get behind the team, we were very bad on Thursday and the rhinos ran hot when they saw we were falling off the pace. It can happen, the issue is taking it on the chin and accepting that we have to do better, consistently. Good luck to Macca and Long Live The BULLS!!!
Posted by: Gaerts, Wakefield on 9:51am Sat 22 Mar 08
I'm a Rhinos fan and just a little fed up of the excuse we had 2 extra days rest. Bradford played at home so therefore could have arranged a Friday night game against Warrington instead of a Sunday it wasn't on Sky so its bad planning on the bulls part.
I'm a Rhinos fan and just a little fed up of the excuse we had 2 extra days rest. Bradford played at home so therefore could have arranged a Friday night game against Warrington instead of a Sunday it wasn't on Sky so its bad planning on the bulls part.
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 10:01am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Gaerts[/bold] wrote:
I'm a Rhinos fan and just a little fed up of the excuse we had 2 extra days rest. Bradford played at home so therefore could have arranged a Friday night game against Warrington instead of a Sunday it wasn't on Sky so its bad planning on the bulls part.[/quote]
You must be fed up if you can't bring yourself yo watch your local team
Gaerts wrote:
I'm a Rhinos fan and just a little fed up of the excuse we had 2 extra days rest. Bradford played at home so therefore could have arranged a Friday night game against Warrington instead of a Sunday it wasn't on Sky so its bad planning on the bulls part.
You must be fed up if you can't bring yourself yo watch your local team
Posted by: Davemac, Yeadon on 10:05am Sat 22 Mar 08
The Bulls were definately unfit. It is time to get rid of all the other clubs cast offs, experience does not make fit players. Now there is o relegation, this season should be forgotten, and youth given it,s chance just as Leeds did a few years back. Except they kept their young players whereas Bulls shipped them on. Being used as a pension top up by expired players is not good enough. This was probably the worst display I've seen from the Bulls.
Dave
The Bulls were definately unfit. It is time to get rid of all the other clubs cast offs, experience does not make fit players. Now there is o relegation, this season should be forgotten, and youth given it,s chance just as Leeds did a few years back. Except they kept their young players whereas Bulls shipped them on. Being used as a pension top up by expired players is not good enough. This was probably the worst display I've seen from the Bulls.
Dave
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 10:06am Sat 22 Mar 08
I think your arrival on this board is very telling 'Gaerts'... it says that you know it was a massive factor. Still, Thursday is gone, it can't be changed, upward and onward, they don't hand out the trophies in March and we can ome back from this.
I think your arrival on this board is very telling 'Gaerts'... it says that you know it was a massive factor. Still, Thursday is gone, it can't be changed, upward and onward, they don't hand out the trophies in March and we can ome back from this.
Posted by: Gaerts, Wakefield on 10:12am Sat 22 Mar 08
For note I was born in Leeds and moved to Wakey 6 months ago and only missed 1 game this season. Yes but fault is it you choose to play on Sunday, we choose to play Friday. Can I suggest to the Bradford board the genius idea of not playing on Sunday before a Thursday game. Mind thats if yout not bankrupt by then.
For note I was born in Leeds and moved to Wakey 6 months ago and only missed 1 game this season. Yes but fault is it you choose to play on Sunday, we choose to play Friday. Can I suggest to the Bradford board the genius idea of not playing on Sunday before a Thursday game. Mind thats if yout not bankrupt by then.
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 10:46am Sat 22 Mar 08
Listen we had a bad game ,we all know that,Did Leeds have a good game against Cas?
We'll bounce back from this, why get despondent over one game, OK so we're used to better than this,but I'll bet you one thing we'll be back to haunt the Loiners and before this season is out.
I'll be there again on Monday as I expect all loyal Bulls fans will be.
Listen we had a bad game ,we all know that,Did Leeds have a good game against Cas?
We'll bounce back from this, why get despondent over one game, OK so we're used to better than this,but I'll bet you one thing we'll be back to haunt the Loiners and before this season is out.
I'll be there again on Monday as I expect all loyal Bulls fans will be.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 11:00am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote:
Listen we had a bad game ,we all know that,Did Leeds have a good game against Cas? We'll bounce back from this, why get despondent over one game, OK so we're used to better than this,but I'll bet you one thing we'll be back to haunt the Loiners and before this season is out. I'll be there again on Monday as I expect all loyal Bulls fans will be.[/quote] And you'll still be calling for 'chin up' if Harlequins win.
WIPSI wrote:
Listen we had a bad game ,we all know that,Did Leeds have a good game against Cas? We'll bounce back from this, why get despondent over one game, OK so we're used to better than this,but I'll bet you one thing we'll be back to haunt the Loiners and before this season is out. I'll be there again on Monday as I expect all loyal Bulls fans will be.
And you'll still be calling for 'chin up' if Harlequins win.
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 11:13am Sat 22 Mar 08
Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll?
And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!!
There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll?
And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!!
There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 11:27am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote:
Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.[/quote] No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.
WIPSI wrote:
Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 12:10pm Sat 22 Mar 08
See, as Gaert says, even the Rhinos acknowledge the result the other night was largely down to lack of time for proper match preparation. And gaert, we are in n o dange rof going bankrupt and that it is actually a definite plan to drag the ahrris saga out a slong as possible to screw the bulls financially is indicative of a despicable and frankly cowardly approach from the Rhinos.
See, as Gaert says, even the Rhinos acknowledge the result the other night was largely down to lack of time for proper match preparation. And gaert, we are in n o dange rof going bankrupt and that it is actually a definite plan to drag the ahrris saga out a slong as possible to screw the bulls financially is indicative of a despicable and frankly cowardly approach from the Rhinos.
Posted by: martin, Bishop Auckland on 12:44pm Sat 22 Mar 08
So if the Bulls win on Monday the Quins can use the fact they are having not only a shorter turnaround, but have some travelling to do which is going to effectively mean the players are not getting anywhere near the same rest time as the Bulls. Swings and roundabouts isnt it?
However the major problem for both Leeds and the Bulls is that im sure when the fixtures came out, both coaches will have been thinking about resting players and changing the team around approaching the easter games, but due to injuries this hasn't been the case, but the Bulls do have an advantage on that they have a big squad with experienced superleague players, unlike leeds who brought in youngsters.
Just another point as well, back in 2002 Leeds got rid of a lot of average, underacheiving players, Sheridan, Hay, Pratt etc, brought the youngsters through like Mathers and MaGuire, Diskin, Bailey and they are still there, whereas the Bulls seem to have got rid of promising youngsters and brought in the average underacheiving superleague players, Feather, Evans, Jeffries, Tadulala, Sykes, ask yourself if any of these players would get into the Leeds or Saints teams and you have your answer.
So if the Bulls win on Monday the Quins can use the fact they are having not only a shorter turnaround, but have some travelling to do which is going to effectively mean the players are not getting anywhere near the same rest time as the Bulls. Swings and roundabouts isnt it?
However the major problem for both Leeds and the Bulls is that im sure when the fixtures came out, both coaches will have been thinking about resting players and changing the team around approaching the easter games, but due to injuries this hasn't been the case, but the Bulls do have an advantage on that they have a big squad with experienced superleague players, unlike leeds who brought in youngsters.
Just another point as well, back in 2002 Leeds got rid of a lot of average, underacheiving players, Sheridan, Hay, Pratt etc, brought the youngsters through like Mathers and MaGuire, Diskin, Bailey and they are still there, whereas the Bulls seem to have got rid of promising youngsters and brought in the average underacheiving superleague players, Feather, Evans, Jeffries, Tadulala, Sykes, ask yourself if any of these players would get into the Leeds or Saints teams and you have your answer.
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 3:52pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.[/quote] No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.[/quote] Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.
haitch wrote:
WIPSI wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.
Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.
Posted by: LeagueJunkie, Lost on 4:05pm Sat 22 Mar 08
20 months Macca has been in charge, he has shown very little.
20 months Macca has been in charge, he has shown very little.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 4:16pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.[/quote] No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.[/quote] Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.[/quote] Let's hope the time does't come and that things are turned around. However the only heads to roll initially are in the coaching. Head coach would be replaced and another would come in. Then it is likely other members of the team are replaced by the new coaches preferences...It won't happen as I doubt the Bulls could afford any other than another rookey coach at the moment. It is possible however that a more experienced head (Ellery Hanley??) could be brought in to oversee the current coachng team. Now there IS a talking point.!!
WIPSI wrote:
haitch wrote: WIPSI wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.
Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.
Let's hope the time does't come and that things are turned around. However the only heads to roll initially are in the coaching. Head coach would be replaced and another would come in. Then it is likely other members of the team are replaced by the new coaches preferences...It won't happen as I doubt the Bulls could afford any other than another rookey coach at the moment. It is possible however that a more experienced head (Ellery Hanley??) could be brought in to oversee the current coachng team. Now there IS a talking point.!!
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 4:27pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]WIPSI[/bold] wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.[/quote] No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.[/quote] Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.[/quote] Let's hope the time does't come and that things are turned around. However the only heads to roll initially are in the coaching. Head coach would be replaced and another would come in. Then it is likely other members of the team are replaced by the new coaches preferences...It won't happen as I doubt the Bulls could afford any other than another rookey coach at the moment. It is possible however that a more experienced head (Ellery Hanley??) could be brought in to oversee the current coachng team. Now there IS a talking point.!![/quote] Thats more like it Haitch,constructive and an idea to get the opinions flowing!
haitch wrote:
WIPSI wrote: haitch wrote: WIPSI wrote: Haitch, and if Quins do win,what do you want or expect to happen then, will you call for heads to roll? And if so will it be Macca or the entire squad or both and back to 1963!!! There ain't no quick fix to a bad spell.
No Wipsi, I don,t want heads to roll at all but I'm more of a 'shoddy work deserves criticism' type than a 'never mind it'll be OK' type. Of course there will come a time when heads may have to roll.
Which heads would you suggest when the time comes,Sure critism is always needed even when things are going right,but things will take time to turn around.
Let's hope the time does't come and that things are turned around. However the only heads to roll initially are in the coaching. Head coach would be replaced and another would come in. Then it is likely other members of the team are replaced by the new coaches preferences...It won't happen as I doubt the Bulls could afford any other than another rookey coach at the moment. It is possible however that a more experienced head (Ellery Hanley??) could be brought in to oversee the current coachng team. Now there IS a talking point.!!
Thats more like it Haitch,constructive and an idea to get the opinions flowing!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 4:30pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Tee Hee! Wipsi mate..just being mischievous..
Tee Hee! Wipsi mate..just being mischievous..
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 4:43pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
Tee Hee! Wipsi mate..just being mischievous
