Bradford school truancy: 127 parents prosecuted

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Almost 130 parents have been prosecuted in Bradford for allowing their children to skip school with nearly a quarter of them living in the BD5 postcode area, latest figures show.

A total of 127 prosecutions and 162 penalty notices were issued in 2010 and 2011, Bradford Council has revealed, with parents and guardians in Bankfoot, Little Horton and West Bowling, which make up BD5, accounting for 28 prosecutions and 41 penalty notices.

The BD4 area, which includes Bierley, East Bowling, Laisterdyke, Tong, Holme Wood and Tyersal, saw the second highest number of penalty notices issued – 36 – while BD6, which covers Buttershaw and Wibsey, accounted for the second largest share of prosecutions, 20.

Fines issued by magistrates during the period ranged from £30 to £525 with £350 the standard fine for prolonged absences and £175 the standard for short periods of absence.

No parents were sent to prison as a result of being prosecuted but other punishments imposed included community orders under supervision of the Probation Service, unpaid work, attendance at parenting courses and the Together Women Programme and absolute and conditional discharges.

Councillor Glen Miller, leader of the Council’s Conservative Group, who asked for the figures from Councillor Ralph Berry, executive member for children’s services, at a full Council meeting earlier this month, said he was keen to identify why some schools in the district were making more progress than others.

He said: “We see excellent schools out there and the portfolio holder is very quick to attach his name to schools who get fantastic Ofsted reports but we still have across the district failing schools and poor attendance. I was trying to find out how many because sometimes it’s not the fault of the children. Concerns have been raised with me about poor attendance.”

Responding to the figures, Coun Berry said: “Generally school attendance issues have been improving. There’s far more action taking place at school level. We need to use the full range of options in this area.

“I do know schools are trying to get involved early on rather than follow the enforcement route. Enforcement needs to be taken only when other measures haven’t been effective. If a schools doesn’t meet its benchmark attendance then it will fail its Ofsted inspection. Anything we can do to raise the profile of ensuring school attendance is necessary. It’s the one opportunity children have to get a good education and we shouldn’t forget that.”

Michael Latham, head teacher at Newby Primary School in Ryan Street, West Bowling, said he believed parents of children at primary schools in BD5 were seldom prosecuted with attendance levels generally high. He said: “As a rule, primary schools do not issue penalty notices or prosecute parents for their children’s non-attendance although this is an option in extreme cases. In BD5, the schools have excellent working relationships with the community and non-attendance is picked up early and acted on.

“It is often a case of parents wanting their children to come to school but having to deal with short-term family difficulties.”

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11:02am Tue 31 Jan 12

Albion. says...

Once the figures are broken down I'm quite surprised they aren't higher.
Once the figures are broken down I'm quite surprised they aren't higher. Albion.
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11:13am Tue 31 Jan 12

ertnec says...

I do beleave that every parent whos child does not go to school should be prosecuted, we see more and more parents especially alot of them on benefit keep there children of school when it comes to pay day so they can take them down town to help with shoping etc, I just this morning noticed three parents I know on the bus with children in tow going bloody shopping what I their showing there kids. Parents please its your childs education get them to school there already have to much time of due to holidays etc
I do beleave that every parent whos child does not go to school should be prosecuted, we see more and more parents especially alot of them on benefit keep there children of school when it comes to pay day so they can take them down town to help with shoping etc, I just this morning noticed three parents I know on the bus with children in tow going bloody shopping what I their showing there kids. Parents please its your childs education get them to school there already have to much time of due to holidays etc ertnec
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11:27am Tue 31 Jan 12

Joedavid says...

127 is a good start I hope this carries and the rest dealt with.
127 is a good start I hope this carries and the rest dealt with. Joedavid
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12:16pm Tue 31 Jan 12

buffetlegs says...

I do have a certain sympathy here. Even the most determined of parents who physically take their children to school, are thwarted when the children simply walk out. The bigger question has to be: why aren't schools engaging more appropriately with their most disaffected pupils?
I do have a certain sympathy here. Even the most determined of parents who physically take their children to school, are thwarted when the children simply walk out. The bigger question has to be: why aren't schools engaging more appropriately with their most disaffected pupils? buffetlegs
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12:17pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Bone_idle18 says...

If the parent isn't working and the kids are constantly kept off shchool, a good way to teach them a lesson would be to make the parents attend the school with the kids and take the same lessons. some might even learn something!
If the parent isn't working and the kids are constantly kept off shchool, a good way to teach them a lesson would be to make the parents attend the school with the kids and take the same lessons. some might even learn something! Bone_idle18
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12:37pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Mojohappy4 says...

As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!!
As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!! Mojohappy4
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1:03pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

Mojohappy4 wrote:
As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!!
There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well.
[quote][p][bold]Mojohappy4[/bold] wrote: As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!![/p][/quote]There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well. william bodie
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1:18pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

What involvement do any parents need if a child is fit, well and attending? Ask for homework which is seldom given? Ensure homework that is given is completed? Parents have to work too, you know do a job, pretty much the same as the teachers do, theirs is to impart knowledge and education, ours is a variety of jobs each adding to society. Why aim a question at a parent who is baffled by a schools admission of a certain policy but well after the fact? Some people can't wait to have a go.
What involvement do any parents need if a child is fit, well and attending? Ask for homework which is seldom given? Ensure homework that is given is completed? Parents have to work too, you know do a job, pretty much the same as the teachers do, theirs is to impart knowledge and education, ours is a variety of jobs each adding to society. Why aim a question at a parent who is baffled by a schools admission of a certain policy but well after the fact? Some people can't wait to have a go. Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:31pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you! william bodie
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1:53pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

william bodie wrote:
I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work. Ramadam_Sam
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2:00pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Albion. says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.
Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.[/p][/quote]Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children. Albion.
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2:01pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Albion. says...

Albion. wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.
Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children.
*take. (see what happens when parents don't help?)
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.[/p][/quote]Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children.[/p][/quote]*take. (see what happens when parents don't help?) Albion.
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2:16pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting....

Have you all lost your touch??

Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk? P.I.M.P.S
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2:19pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

william bodie wrote:
I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
I am seriously asking. Some parents genuinely do not have the time or even the ability in some cases to do that bit extra.

I myself not only set extra homework for my 3 sons, pestered the school to give more, which they continually failed to do hence the need for me to set and help with the extra and also undertook the extra tasks of football coaching from u8s to u18s. Not everyone can do this.

The crux of the matter is that if schools fit in with the rest of the working world and did full days not half days there would be little need for anyone to leave with a less than average education or to have to set and or mark homework outside working hours. If only 5 and 3/4 hours per day are set aside for teaching out of an 8 hour day there is a ridiculous shortfall of hours that could be used.

Teachers are paid to TEACH, I am paid to ensure the back systems of my companies IT infrastructure are fully functional 24/7, pardon me if I expect a teacher to spend part of his day teaching my kids. ( pointless argument here as two are in full time work and one at college) Unless you want to suggest I request Thomas Danby to allow me to go against all their teaching and mentoring methods and use my own to achieve a bit of a crap result once my son has to pass his finals.

Parents can only do so much, if your child can hold a knife and fork, communicate in both speech and literacy, is polite and able to learn then as a parent you have done your job. For your child to learn Trigonometry, French, Physics, Chemistry they need to be taught by specialists in an agreed format, ie the curriculum.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]I am seriously asking. Some parents genuinely do not have the time or even the ability in some cases to do that bit extra. I myself not only set extra homework for my 3 sons, pestered the school to give more, which they continually failed to do hence the need for me to set and help with the extra and also undertook the extra tasks of football coaching from u8s to u18s. Not everyone can do this. The crux of the matter is that if schools fit in with the rest of the working world and did full days not half days there would be little need for anyone to leave with a less than average education or to have to set and or mark homework outside working hours. If only 5 and 3/4 hours per day are set aside for teaching out of an 8 hour day there is a ridiculous shortfall of hours that could be used. Teachers are paid to TEACH, I am paid to ensure the back systems of my companies IT infrastructure are fully functional 24/7, pardon me if I expect a teacher to spend part of his day teaching my kids. ( pointless argument here as two are in full time work and one at college) Unless you want to suggest I request Thomas Danby to allow me to go against all their teaching and mentoring methods and use my own to achieve a bit of a crap result once my son has to pass his finals. Parents can only do so much, if your child can hold a knife and fork, communicate in both speech and literacy, is polite and able to learn then as a parent you have done your job. For your child to learn Trigonometry, French, Physics, Chemistry they need to be taught by specialists in an agreed format, ie the curriculum. Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:20pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter
shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show Ramadam_Sam
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2:23pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting....

Have you all lost your touch??

Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England.
With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words. william bodie
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2:33pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.[/p][/quote]well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany. Ramadam_Sam
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2:33pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
I think you two will be the best of buddies on here.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]I think you two will be the best of buddies on here. Thee Voice of Reason
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2:37pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

PIMPS, jog on idiot. Pathetic attempt to instigate a debate based on your poor values and hatred.
PIMPS, jog on idiot. Pathetic attempt to instigate a debate based on your poor values and hatred. Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:38pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote:
What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter

shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature.
PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own. william bodie
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2:42pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Huneybunch says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.
It is every parents job to teach their children, not just the school. School give education in-order for the child to pass exams, BUT its the parents that teach social skills, like manners or didnt you know this! That means kids learn to say please and thank you
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.[/p][/quote]It is every parents job to teach their children, not just the school. School give education in-order for the child to pass exams, BUT its the parents that teach social skills, like manners or didnt you know this! That means kids learn to say please and thank you Huneybunch
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2:42pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.
what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.[/p][/quote]well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.[/p][/quote]what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage. william bodie
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2:44pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.
nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.[/p][/quote]nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers. Ramadam_Sam
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2:54pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge.

I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic.

So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:59pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Huneybunch says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
Think you have it wrong there as BD5 is mostly Asian
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]Think you have it wrong there as BD5 is mostly Asian Huneybunch
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3:00pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask?
brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler. Ramadam_Sam
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3:02pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.
nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers.
Looking at your spelling and grammar, it appears you missed a fair few days of school yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.[/p][/quote]nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers.[/p][/quote]Looking at your spelling and grammar, it appears you missed a fair few days of school yourself. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:06pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show
Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.
nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers.
Looking at your spelling and grammar, it appears you missed a fair few days of school yourself.
i have only lived in this country for 3 years,before i come here i have not spoken one word of the english,i speak 4 language now.how about you men coments on my spelling?
back to the comment please and no more insults.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]well said,homewood,butter shaw,queensbury will top that list,no problems in most asian schools,parents are strickter and more diciplined as the figures wil show[/p][/quote]Read the story your commenting on fool, it tells you which area is at the top of the list at the beginning of the story, maybe if you had a bit more help in your education you would be able to enter into a forum of this nature. PRISONER- i do get what your saying regarding schools, all im saying is if the system isnt right then we dont simply give up, we do it ourselves, for our kids, and if we dont know how then we go and find out, not give in, but each to their own.[/p][/quote]nonsence.i have read the article,the kids on theses estates are out of control,due to no education and NO dicipline,you are the fool wearing the blinkers.[/p][/quote]Looking at your spelling and grammar, it appears you missed a fair few days of school yourself.[/p][/quote]i have only lived in this country for 3 years,before i come here i have not spoken one word of the english,i speak 4 language now.how about you men coments on my spelling? back to the comment please and no more insults. Ramadam_Sam
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3:12pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Sam, two fluently English and German, two more in a pigeon fashion, French and Spanish and a smattering of Urdu, Hindi, Gujerati and Punjabi but growing up in the 60s and 70s in Barkerend and Undercliffe these languages tended to cover the more base life topics like sex and swearing as well as food and drink items and plain greetings.
Sam, two fluently English and German, two more in a pigeon fashion, French and Spanish and a smattering of Urdu, Hindi, Gujerati and Punjabi but growing up in the 60s and 70s in Barkerend and Undercliffe these languages tended to cover the more base life topics like sex and swearing as well as food and drink items and plain greetings. Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:34pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Huneybunch says...

Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off. Huneybunch
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3:38pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

Huneybunch wrote:
Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
[quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject. Ramadam_Sam
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3:52pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Glad_I_got_out says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered. Glad_I_got_out
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3:54pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

In that case Sam, make sure they go to school, do their homework and attempt to absorb as much education as they possibly can as quickly as they can as school is a fast failing institution in Britain. If they are coming to England for education they may be doing theirselves a big dis-service, would be better off moving to India and completing their schooling there. In fact as India and China will soon be dominant world powers they would be better off moving to India full stop, that is where the next big growth, especially technology will be.
In that case Sam, make sure they go to school, do their homework and attempt to absorb as much education as they possibly can as quickly as they can as school is a fast failing institution in Britain. If they are coming to England for education they may be doing theirselves a big dis-service, would be better off moving to India and completing their schooling there. In fact as India and China will soon be dominant world powers they would be better off moving to India full stop, that is where the next big growth, especially technology will be. Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:59pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.
what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.
What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this??

If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!!
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.[/p][/quote]well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.[/p][/quote]what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.[/p][/quote]What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this?? If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!! P.I.M.P.S
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4:04pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
In that case Sam, make sure they go to school, do their homework and attempt to absorb as much education as they possibly can as quickly as they can as school is a fast failing institution in Britain. If they are coming to England for education they may be doing theirselves a big dis-service, would be better off moving to India and completing their schooling there. In fact as India and China will soon be dominant world powers they would be better off moving to India full stop, that is where the next big growth, especially technology will be.
thankyou mr cellblock,but i am living very happy in this country,bradford is amazing city,full of happy people and my culture,i am happy to settle here and i live in bd3,nice place,one day i hope for work,what schools are the best in bradford? thankyou you are nice guy too
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: In that case Sam, make sure they go to school, do their homework and attempt to absorb as much education as they possibly can as quickly as they can as school is a fast failing institution in Britain. If they are coming to England for education they may be doing theirselves a big dis-service, would be better off moving to India and completing their schooling there. In fact as India and China will soon be dominant world powers they would be better off moving to India full stop, that is where the next big growth, especially technology will be.[/p][/quote]thankyou mr cellblock,but i am living very happy in this country,bradford is amazing city,full of happy people and my culture,i am happy to settle here and i live in bd3,nice place,one day i hope for work,what schools are the best in bradford? thankyou you are nice guy too Ramadam_Sam
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4:06pm Tue 31 Jan 12

BD16 says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.
what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.
What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this?? If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!!
Or then again maybe you've just got a chip on your shoulder and are simply waiting for a racist slur.

Looking down the comments it seems until you announced your presence it was a discussion without reference to colour, race or religion.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.[/p][/quote]well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.[/p][/quote]what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.[/p][/quote]What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this?? If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!![/p][/quote]Or then again maybe you've just got a chip on your shoulder and are simply waiting for a racist slur. Looking down the comments it seems until you announced your presence it was a discussion without reference to colour, race or religion. BD16
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4:07pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask?
brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.
I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.[/p][/quote]I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language. william bodie
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4:22pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5.
The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal??
The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!!

Do you gets me now??
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5. The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal?? The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!! Do you gets me now?? P.I.M.P.S
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4:30pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5.
The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal??
The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!!

Do you gets me now??
nice try at back pedaling, but your game is clear for all to see and no one is interested.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5. The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal?? The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!! Do you gets me now??[/p][/quote]nice try at back pedaling, but your game is clear for all to see and no one is interested. william bodie
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4:31pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

BD16 wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?
stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.
well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.
what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.
What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this?? If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!!
Or then again maybe you've just got a chip on your shoulder and are simply waiting for a racist slur. Looking down the comments it seems until you announced your presence it was a discussion without reference to colour, race or religion.
Thank you for re-iterating my point... Would that still have been the case if BD4 and BD6 were not revealed as part of the worst areas? At least in BD5 the schools are saying they are working very closely with families to eradicate the problem at its root cause, can we be sure this is happening in BD4 and BD6??
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: What I'm really suprised at is how this has gone to ethnic bashing yet? There's been over 10 comments, its usally there by 5... I can't wait any more, I'm getting agitated with the waiting.... Have you all lost your touch?? Or is it simply because the biggest areas highlighted are predominantly house White English folk?[/p][/quote]stick to the point, anyway Little Horton and west Bowling were the worst area, hardly middle England. With regards to the other comment on "schools are for teaching and home is for fun" well im lost for words.[/p][/quote]well you would be,ive seen you comments before,and as i have in others said you remind me of hitler,bringing race onto the eqation once more,you belong in 1940 germany.[/p][/quote]what on earth are you talking about, you utter moron, if you havent anything to say about the state of this country's education go and do some finger painting or something you can manage.[/p][/quote]What he and mainly I am stating, why isn't a story like this resulted in Ethnic Bashing yet??? Is it because you would be proved wrong again, principally because this is a White English predicament and always has been and the evidence within the narrative attests this?? If the other 2 areas had not been revealed (BD4 & BD6) you would all have jumped on the bandwagon about how Muslims and Asians don't believe in schooling and how we are all fighting for a united Islamic State... Move on people, nothing to see here... LMAO!![/p][/quote]Or then again maybe you've just got a chip on your shoulder and are simply waiting for a racist slur. Looking down the comments it seems until you announced your presence it was a discussion without reference to colour, race or religion.[/p][/quote]Thank you for re-iterating my point... Would that still have been the case if BD4 and BD6 were not revealed as part of the worst areas? At least in BD5 the schools are saying they are working very closely with families to eradicate the problem at its root cause, can we be sure this is happening in BD4 and BD6?? P.I.M.P.S
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4:31pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.
I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language.
i read your comments and you did say it,you are one of the peolpe that spoil bradford,a racist thug,probably from homewood and not working,please do go away,you are very unkind,you say you were in 9/11 and lied to make youself look good.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.[/p][/quote]I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language.[/p][/quote]i read your comments and you did say it,you are one of the peolpe that spoil bradford,a racist thug,probably from homewood and not working,please do go away,you are very unkind,you say you were in 9/11 and lied to make youself look good. Ramadam_Sam
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4:33pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

william bodie wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5. The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal?? The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!! Do you gets me now??
nice try at back pedaling, but your game is clear for all to see and no one is interested.
Back pedaling?? Please explain?

And it’s spelt pedalling... I see the problem with the schooling now...
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]First of all Great Horton is not mentioned in the above report... BD5 is not predominantly Asian, West Bowling and Marshfield’s is primarily Asian, but the whole block of flats at bottom of Little Horton is White English and Un-employed and probably makes up for about 40% of BD5. The demographics of BD4 and BD6 are not surprisingly equal; surprisingly the demographics in these 2 postcodes don’t even match the average demographics across the District... I live in Clayton Heights (BD6) and so does my brother; there is barely one minority family to every 30 White English, I don’t know how that is surprisingly equal?? The point I was trying to make and am making is, if only BD5 had been mentioned you would all have been straight onto Ethnic Bashing, just like you did when rising insurance prices headline was released!!! Do you gets me now??[/p][/quote]nice try at back pedaling, but your game is clear for all to see and no one is interested.[/p][/quote]Back pedaling?? Please explain? And it’s spelt pedalling... I see the problem with the schooling now... P.I.M.P.S
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4:43pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The block of flats make up 40%of the L Horton demographic??? You make me laugh to the point of collapse, your stats and made up figures yet again mean nothing and add nothing.

To my knowledge truancy, the point of the article, is a predominant white, English problem, not necessarily due to poor or uncaring parents but I will admit that, it isn't my problem and by admitting it I do not do my children, friends, family or anyone else an injustice. Can the same be said of some of our other erstwhile correspondents on other topics?
The block of flats make up 40%of the L Horton demographic??? You make me laugh to the point of collapse, your stats and made up figures yet again mean nothing and add nothing. To my knowledge truancy, the point of the article, is a predominant white, English problem, not necessarily due to poor or uncaring parents but I will admit that, it isn't my problem and by admitting it I do not do my children, friends, family or anyone else an injustice. Can the same be said of some of our other erstwhile correspondents on other topics? Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:45pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.
I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy. william bodie
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4:47pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

william bodie wrote:
I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.
I stand corrected, my apologies...
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected, my apologies... P.I.M.P.S
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4:50pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Glad_I_got_out says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
william bodie wrote: I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.
I stand corrected, my apologies...
Haha, nice to see your back to making a fool of yourself again PIMPS! Now do go away, nobody brought race into this before you reared your ugly mug.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected, my apologies...[/p][/quote]Haha, nice to see your back to making a fool of yourself again PIMPS! Now do go away, nobody brought race into this before you reared your ugly mug. Glad_I_got_out
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4:56pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
The block of flats make up 40%of the L Horton demographic??? You make me laugh to the point of collapse, your stats and made up figures yet again mean nothing and add nothing. To my knowledge truancy, the point of the article, is a predominant white, English problem, not necessarily due to poor or uncaring parents but I will admit that, it isn't my problem and by admitting it I do not do my children, friends, family or anyone else an injustice. Can the same be said of some of our other erstwhile correspondents on other topics?
I am not in a position to comment on the position of former correspondents, I can only comment on what I see. I can only judge what I see and not what I hear from an inebriated associate in the pub on Friday night.

What I see is a negative narrative about Bradford, but someone is yet to blame a particular race for this happening. Any other disparaging narrative would have been barraged by how the rise of immigrants and lawless Muslims youth has caused this....

The only reason I can see this has happened is because this narrative has been backed with facts, where as many others are not...
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: The block of flats make up 40%of the L Horton demographic??? You make me laugh to the point of collapse, your stats and made up figures yet again mean nothing and add nothing. To my knowledge truancy, the point of the article, is a predominant white, English problem, not necessarily due to poor or uncaring parents but I will admit that, it isn't my problem and by admitting it I do not do my children, friends, family or anyone else an injustice. Can the same be said of some of our other erstwhile correspondents on other topics?[/p][/quote]I am not in a position to comment on the position of former correspondents, I can only comment on what I see. I can only judge what I see and not what I hear from an inebriated associate in the pub on Friday night. What I see is a negative narrative about Bradford, but someone is yet to blame a particular race for this happening. Any other disparaging narrative would have been barraged by how the rise of immigrants and lawless Muslims youth has caused this.... The only reason I can see this has happened is because this narrative has been backed with facts, where as many others are not... P.I.M.P.S
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4:58pm Tue 31 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Glad_I_got_out wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote:
william bodie wrote: I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.
I stand corrected, my apologies...
Haha, nice to see your back to making a fool of yourself again PIMPS! Now do go away, nobody brought race into this before you reared your ugly mug.
Again you are re-iterating the point I am making, please do read my comments before you decide to conclude on my intentions...
[quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I think you will find if you check a dictionary, an English dictionary, you will find i have written it correctly, your spelling is the very inferior American language which in becoming increasingly common with the ill educated and lazy.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected, my apologies...[/p][/quote]Haha, nice to see your back to making a fool of yourself again PIMPS! Now do go away, nobody brought race into this before you reared your ugly mug.[/p][/quote]Again you are re-iterating the point I am making, please do read my comments before you decide to conclude on my intentions... P.I.M.P.S
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5:00pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Bone_idle18 says...

Back to an earlier comment, what do you want the school to do? Send teachers round every night after they have finished for the day to teach you child untuil they are better?
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Responsibility for education is the parents, the school is just the provider.
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Anyone who thinks children don't learn at home is an idiot, don't you people read to your child, or listen to them readin, or help them understand things, or teach them through your own experiences?
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Not surprised the attainment levels at some schools are so low! As always, blam the fricking parents!
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Please don't be so pedantic and pathetic as to criticis my spelling.
Back to an earlier comment, what do you want the school to do? Send teachers round every night after they have finished for the day to teach you child untuil they are better? . Responsibility for education is the parents, the school is just the provider. . Anyone who thinks children don't learn at home is an idiot, don't you people read to your child, or listen to them readin, or help them understand things, or teach them through your own experiences? . Not surprised the attainment levels at some schools are so low! As always, blam the fricking parents! . Please don't be so pedantic and pathetic as to criticis my spelling. Bone_idle18
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5:03pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
[quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes. Ramadam_Sam
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5:23pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Joedavid says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Does your keyboard not have Capital letters and also not able to put a Space after a Coma, Sam?
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Does your keyboard not have Capital letters and also not able to put a Space after a Coma, Sam? Joedavid
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5:31pm Tue 31 Jan 12

BD16 says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks?

As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived. BD16
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5:42pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Ramadam_Sam says...

BD16 wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.
are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa
ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on?
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.[/p][/quote]are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on? Ramadam_Sam
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5:47pm Tue 31 Jan 12

william bodie says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa
why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.
I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language.
i read your comments and you did say it,you are one of the peolpe that spoil bradford,a racist thug,probably from homewood and not working,please do go away,you are very unkind,you say you were in 9/11 and lied to make youself look good.
Look, if your going to quote things then please get them right, i said i was on a train in the London Bombings, which i was, and i said it in the context of a previous conversation not to "make myself look good" it was not a good day for the UK whether you are a Britsh Christian, Muslim, or Jedi, anyway i am in danger of being drawn into your hate filled rants which once again you have managed to steer off topic, if we are not discussing truancy i bid you all a good evening.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: No problems William, my point is that some parents cannot, some will not and the education system is there not to support those that cannot or will not but to replace them when it comes to the need for learning subject matter. I fully agree a parent should have a continual input into their child's education but there comes a point when it goes beyond a parent's ability, both time and knowledge. I do know the topic is truancy and we have edged away slightly, so back on topic, Ramadam Sam and PIMPs as you were the first to raise this as a race issue, re-read the report, it is a varying mix of areas mentioned with no major mention of one area, predominantly 'white' or 'black' or 'orange' the areas that have high levels recorded have demographics that are surprisingly equal apart from Tong which is predominantly a white area but has increasing levels of multi-ethnicity and West Bowling/Great Horton which are predominantly non-white areas but also have an increasing multi-ethnic demographic. So boys, what is your point on this topic, Sam, did you post just to show how poor your eduction was and how you lack basic English skills? And PIMPS, we all know your agenda and are all sensible enough to ignore your pointless attempts at wind ups, haven't you noticed, you don't even get reported anymore, people ignore you. wassa wassa wassa[/p][/quote]why pick on my english,i speak 4 languages,how many do you speak i ask? brodie. i remember the last time you were comenting and you said all muslims should be wiped of the face of this earth,that is why i call you hitler.[/p][/quote]I have never said any such thing, i said the plague of islamic terrorist should be eradicated, not muslims in general, and i defy any right minded person to disagree with that. im glad your children are coming over for their education, give them a couple of days they may be able to teach you a basic grasp of the English language.[/p][/quote]i read your comments and you did say it,you are one of the peolpe that spoil bradford,a racist thug,probably from homewood and not working,please do go away,you are very unkind,you say you were in 9/11 and lied to make youself look good.[/p][/quote]Look, if your going to quote things then please get them right, i said i was on a train in the London Bombings, which i was, and i said it in the context of a previous conversation not to "make myself look good" it was not a good day for the UK whether you are a Britsh Christian, Muslim, or Jedi, anyway i am in danger of being drawn into your hate filled rants which once again you have managed to steer off topic, if we are not discussing truancy i bid you all a good evening. william bodie
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5:55pm Tue 31 Jan 12

BD16 says...

Ramadam_Sam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.
are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on?
You're not even asian, are you? Just some idiot trying to stir up a bit of mischief.

Goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.[/p][/quote]are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on?[/p][/quote]You're not even asian, are you? Just some idiot trying to stir up a bit of mischief. Goodbye. BD16
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5:58pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Glad_I_got_out says...

BD16 wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.
are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on?
You're not even asian, are you? Just some idiot trying to stir up a bit of mischief. Goodbye.
My thoughts too, somebody on a wind up.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Could you please indulge me and tell me what culture and grace muslims have brought to Bradford? Did they build the town hall? Saltaire? Howarth? Five rise locks? As far as I am able to tell any culture that Bradford has was here long before muslims arrived.[/p][/quote]are you for real?to start the many mosques,the one near canterbury is an amazing building,or will be when it is finished,the friendly people what brighten my day,white abbey road,have you been here recentley,the shops,restaraunts,fa ntastic,the asian market at canon mill on sunday,do i have to go on?[/p][/quote]You're not even asian, are you? Just some idiot trying to stir up a bit of mischief. Goodbye.[/p][/quote]My thoughts too, somebody on a wind up. Glad_I_got_out
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6:02pm Tue 31 Jan 12

wobbley-bob says...

Joedavid wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Glad_I_got_out wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
Huneybunch wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.
is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.
What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.
i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.
Does your keyboard not have Capital letters and also not able to put a Space after a Coma, Sam?
Oh, the irony..... lol

Also, it's comma David, COMA is a deep , unresponsive sleep. :-)

Don't you just love spelling police?

Ramamdam-sam is a WUM in my opinion, and you should all stop feeding the gob-**** racist troll too.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glad_I_got_out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huneybunch[/bold] wrote: Its funny when you correct people they do not reply to your comment unless I was to slag some one off.[/p][/quote]is this to me i ask.well done mr cell block,it is nice to here from you as educated as me. can we talk about school again,my children will be in england soon and i am interetsed on this subject.[/p][/quote]What stone have you crawled from under? your spelling and grammer is terrible, regardless of how many languages you speak, though I must admit you have a better grasp than some of the grandad's that have lived here for decades and not bothered.[/p][/quote]i have also seen your comments in the past,another racist,do not be rude just because i am educated and you are not.bradford would be better off with the likes of you gone,muslims have brought culture and grace to bradford,i have seen this with my own eyes.[/p][/quote]Does your keyboard not have Capital letters and also not able to put a Space after a Coma, Sam?[/p][/quote]Oh, the irony..... lol Also, it's comma David, COMA is a deep , unresponsive sleep. :-) Don't you just love spelling police? Ramamdam-sam is a WUM in my opinion, and you should all stop feeding the gob-**** racist troll too. wobbley-bob
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6:05pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Mike Strutter says...

Guys you are cracking me up. This Ramajam Sam geezer is one wind up merchant who is having you for fools . It's bang obvious .
Guys you are cracking me up. This Ramajam Sam geezer is one wind up merchant who is having you for fools . It's bang obvious . Mike Strutter
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6:27pm Tue 31 Jan 12

justjustice says...

I do love these comments section on this website.

It really is amazing how quickly people start what was a neutral article into a thread about racism!

Guess what people, you're all bad parents! Even those parents who drop their kids off at school, and make sure they walk into the school building. There is nothing stopping the kid from running off when you walk or drive off, or leaving during break or lunch.
These kids have absolute no respect for you at all, which shows that even though you do more, your kids are still brats!

Asian, white, black, purple; the major problem is parenting or the lack of it. It doesnt help with all the liberals gits who have managed to get so much child protection laws to pass, making these kids untouchable; even the Lords blocked the minimum of £26,000pa on benefits! £26,000!!! I would f**king love to have that kind of salary! and these social rejects get it for doing bugger all apart from breeding like bacteria!
I do love these comments section on this website. It really is amazing how quickly people start what was a neutral article into a thread about racism! Guess what people, you're all bad parents! Even those parents who drop their kids off at school, and make sure they walk into the school building. There is nothing stopping the kid from running off when you walk or drive off, or leaving during break or lunch. These kids have absolute no respect for you at all, which shows that even though you do more, your kids are still brats! Asian, white, black, purple; the major problem is parenting or the lack of it. It doesnt help with all the liberals gits who have managed to get so much child protection laws to pass, making these kids untouchable; even the Lords blocked the minimum of £26,000pa on benefits! £26,000!!! I would f**king love to have that kind of salary! and these social rejects get it for doing bugger all apart from breeding like bacteria! justjustice
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6:35pm Tue 31 Jan 12

BD16 says...

justjustice wrote:
I do love these comments section on this website. It really is amazing how quickly people start what was a neutral article into a thread about racism! Guess what people, you're all bad parents! Even those parents who drop their kids off at school, and make sure they walk into the school building. There is nothing stopping the kid from running off when you walk or drive off, or leaving during break or lunch. These kids have absolute no respect for you at all, which shows that even though you do more, your kids are still brats! Asian, white, black, purple; the major problem is parenting or the lack of it. It doesnt help with all the liberals gits who have managed to get so much child protection laws to pass, making these kids untouchable; even the Lords blocked the minimum of £26,000pa on benefits! £26,000!!! I would f**king love to have that kind of salary! and these social rejects get it for doing bugger all apart from breeding like bacteria!
Good post, I agree with much of what you say.
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: I do love these comments section on this website. It really is amazing how quickly people start what was a neutral article into a thread about racism! Guess what people, you're all bad parents! Even those parents who drop their kids off at school, and make sure they walk into the school building. There is nothing stopping the kid from running off when you walk or drive off, or leaving during break or lunch. These kids have absolute no respect for you at all, which shows that even though you do more, your kids are still brats! Asian, white, black, purple; the major problem is parenting or the lack of it. It doesnt help with all the liberals gits who have managed to get so much child protection laws to pass, making these kids untouchable; even the Lords blocked the minimum of £26,000pa on benefits! £26,000!!! I would f**king love to have that kind of salary! and these social rejects get it for doing bugger all apart from breeding like bacteria![/p][/quote]Good post, I agree with much of what you say. BD16
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7:46pm Tue 31 Jan 12

dapiackle says...

*Sigh* *Yawn* - OK, how's this : Any serious academic research done into this topic (as opposed to the ignorant garbage spouted by so many armchair educationalists here) reveals the following irrefutable facts : the two sections of the UK school child population who miss school the most are white working class / 'underclass' kids and Pakistani / Bangladeshi kids. The reasons are surprisingly similar for such different sections of the community.

Pakistani / Bangladeshi kids miss school mainly (but not exclusively) because of family commitments, whether in the UK or because they have gone back to Pakistan / Bangladesh for a long period of time. Their white counterparts are frequently raised in households with low opinions of school, perhaps understandably as the curriculum is so dull and irrelevant to the kind of interests / jobs they might have done, also most truancy in this community is done with the full knowledge and support of parents who probably had bad experiences at school and didn't use to go that much, like their own parents, etc etc.. White w/class girls are often kept off to look after younger siblings, as are Pakistani / Bangladeshi girls as for many their role is pretty much mapped out for them culturally.

So IMHO, you guys can throw racial slurs around but the issue is social class. Middle class ethnic minority groups such as most Indian & Chinese pupils value education just as much if not even more than white m/class kids, their attendance is 99% + and they do extremely well.

Not a spelling mistake in sight. Anyone want to pick me up on the analysis, let's hear it.
*Sigh* *Yawn* - OK, how's this : Any serious academic research done into this topic (as opposed to the ignorant garbage spouted by so many armchair educationalists here) reveals the following irrefutable facts : the two sections of the UK school child population who miss school the most are white working class / 'underclass' kids and Pakistani / Bangladeshi kids. The reasons are surprisingly similar for such different sections of the community. Pakistani / Bangladeshi kids miss school mainly (but not exclusively) because of family commitments, whether in the UK or because they have gone back to Pakistan / Bangladesh for a long period of time. Their white counterparts are frequently raised in households with low opinions of school, perhaps understandably as the curriculum is so dull and irrelevant to the kind of interests / jobs they might have done, also most truancy in this community is done with the full knowledge and support of parents who probably had bad experiences at school and didn't use to go that much, like their own parents, etc etc.. White w/class girls are often kept off to look after younger siblings, as are Pakistani / Bangladeshi girls as for many their role is pretty much mapped out for them culturally. So IMHO, you guys can throw racial slurs around but the issue is social class. Middle class ethnic minority groups such as most Indian & Chinese pupils value education just as much if not even more than white m/class kids, their attendance is 99% + and they do extremely well. Not a spelling mistake in sight. Anyone want to pick me up on the analysis, let's hear it. dapiackle
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8:10pm Tue 31 Jan 12

dapiackle says...

I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.
I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots. dapiackle
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12:32pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Mojohappy4 says...

william bodie wrote:
Mojohappy4 wrote: As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!!
There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well.
Both my husband and I had plenty of involvement thank you but as far as I am concerned if you are not a parent govenor or a member of the parents association (in the gang!) then you are simply dismissed.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mojohappy4[/bold] wrote: As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!![/p][/quote]There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well.[/p][/quote]Both my husband and I had plenty of involvement thank you but as far as I am concerned if you are not a parent govenor or a member of the parents association (in the gang!) then you are simply dismissed. Mojohappy4
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12:50pm Wed 1 Feb 12

william bodie says...

dapiackle wrote:
I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.
if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something.
[quote][p][bold]dapiackle[/bold] wrote: I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.[/p][/quote]if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something. william bodie
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12:54pm Wed 1 Feb 12

william bodie says...

Mojohappy4 wrote:
william bodie wrote:
Mojohappy4 wrote: As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!!
There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well.
Both my husband and I had plenty of involvement thank you but as far as I am concerned if you are not a parent govenor or a member of the parents association (in the gang!) then you are simply dismissed.
nonsense, you do everything you can for your kids, and if parent governor's get things done, then become a parent governor, and i don't believe schools are run like gangs, and on another point you only get dismissed if you allow yourself to be, that goes for everything not just schools, too many people dont get justice because they give up are can' be bothered.
[quote][p][bold]Mojohappy4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mojohappy4[/bold] wrote: As a parent of a child that had a serious accident and could not attend school at all for at least 6 months and then after that only on a part time basis due to rehabilitation after surgery, I found the school to be less than helpful. I kept the school fully informed of the situation daily, weekly and monthly. The school never offered any support other than sending work home (which they then lost (on one occasion) and I had not copied it and so he had to complete it again!). We were invited into school only once (18 months after the accident) with the school social worker in attendance too. At which point they informed us that my son was entitled to 5 hours home tutoring a week but needed a doctors note before this could be sanctioned. I did ask why we had not been informed of this right at the start but received no response to this! Teachers/schools need to be more involved with their pupils and parents although I do appreciated there are situations where pupils and parents WILL NOT / do not want to be involved. These are the ones that should be taken to task. The school/LA let my son and us down something I will not forgive. The trauma of the accident was bad enough nevermind the school being more that useless!!!!![/p][/quote]There are ample opportunities for parents to be involved with the school if they are bothered to take the time to find out, i notice you only mention no involvement from the school when you wanted something from them, i do wonder what involvement you had in your childs schooling when your child was fit and well.[/p][/quote]Both my husband and I had plenty of involvement thank you but as far as I am concerned if you are not a parent govenor or a member of the parents association (in the gang!) then you are simply dismissed.[/p][/quote]nonsense, you do everything you can for your kids, and if parent governor's get things done, then become a parent governor, and i don't believe schools are run like gangs, and on another point you only get dismissed if you allow yourself to be, that goes for everything not just schools, too many people dont get justice because they give up are can' be bothered. william bodie
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3:07pm Wed 1 Feb 12

outspoken says...

Albion. wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Ramadam_Sam wrote:
william bodie wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you!
i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.
Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children.
*take. (see what happens when parents don't help?)
Albion ,You being mischievous again, attempting to fool the folk on this thread....


came back on here after many months,see the usual suspects still attempting to sway an argument towards a certain way!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ramadam_Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: I work and im a parent, are you seriously asking what involvement a parent can have in a childs education even when they attend school and are fit and well? Its not just the teachers job to teach your children,As a parent you need to be involved in their education if you want them to have the edge when it comes to university and decent jobs, if your happy for your child to bimble through school the wind up at the back of the queue when it comes to future opportunities then shame on you![/p][/quote]i send my children to school to learn,it is the schools job to teach,not parents,my children go school everyday and mosque at LEAST four time a week,they have fun time at home,not work work work.[/p][/quote]Nonsense! You should tale every opportunity to teach things to your children.[/p][/quote]*take. (see what happens when parents don't help?)[/p][/quote]Albion ,You being mischievous again, attempting to fool the folk on this thread.... came back on here after many months,see the usual suspects still attempting to sway an argument towards a certain way!!! outspoken
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5:29pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Andy2010 says...

LOL i love the T&A comments section.....I can almost guarantee each topic be it about something minor or major will after about 10 posts result in a slagging match between about 5 individuals....alway
s the sames ones arguing with each other about punctuation and points they are trying to make....which incidentally are 90% about race.

Anyway keep it up as its jolly good fun reading these everyday.
LOL i love the T&A comments section.....I can almost guarantee each topic be it about something minor or major will after about 10 posts result in a slagging match between about 5 individuals....alway s the sames ones arguing with each other about punctuation and points they are trying to make....which incidentally are 90% about race. Anyway keep it up as its jolly good fun reading these everyday. Andy2010
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8:15pm Thu 2 Feb 12

dapiackle says...

william bodie wrote:
dapiackle wrote:
I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.
if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something.
Mate I read the entire thread, with some dismay, before posting (I don't post much but I always read). The *sigh - yawn* bit was not because the topic was boring, rather it was about the fact that yet again, as you quite rightly point out, a perfectly decent debate was hijacked, some ridiculous and irrelevant race cards were played, and risked degenerating quickly into the usual pathetic slanging match between the usual suspects, except for once people saw it for what it was. In terms of the fact / opinion dilemma, surely a discussion forum is to offer ones' opinion (backed up with evidence wherever possible) rather than bombard and bore the reader to death with 'facts', which in this case would presumably be statistics? And since when were statistics 'facts' anyway, especially when they are 'official' statistics like these? Remember 'lies, damned lies and statistics?' 'Facts' are very hard to come by with issues such as this, the best you can hope for is some trends & patterns, and explanations rather than 'answers', which is what I was trying to offer in and amongst all the "I arnt bein funni but you carnt spel you pikey", "end o't day it's imagrents wot don't send there kids 2 skwl", "no it int bro its da white trash" nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dapiackle[/bold] wrote: I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.[/p][/quote]if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something.[/p][/quote]Mate I read the entire thread, with some dismay, before posting (I don't post much but I always read). The *sigh - yawn* bit was not because the topic was boring, rather it was about the fact that yet again, as you quite rightly point out, a perfectly decent debate was hijacked, some ridiculous and irrelevant race cards were played, and risked degenerating quickly into the usual pathetic slanging match between the usual suspects, except for once people saw it for what it was. In terms of the fact / opinion dilemma, surely a discussion forum is to offer ones' opinion (backed up with evidence wherever possible) rather than bombard and bore the reader to death with 'facts', which in this case would presumably be statistics? And since when were statistics 'facts' anyway, especially when they are 'official' statistics like these? Remember 'lies, damned lies and statistics?' 'Facts' are very hard to come by with issues such as this, the best you can hope for is some trends & patterns, and explanations rather than 'answers', which is what I was trying to offer in and amongst all the "I arnt bein funni but you carnt spel you pikey", "end o't day it's imagrents wot don't send there kids 2 skwl", "no it int bro its da white trash" nonsense. dapiackle
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1:27pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Superdoo says...

As a sometime recruiter it amazes me how illiterate the current generation is - that's all creeds and colours. They can barely write, punctuate or spell. They should be at school all day every day to prepare them for life. I wouldn't employ any illiterate - if you can't even communicate accurately in the only worldwide language that matters these days, then you'll never get a job. That comment is for most of the posters on here as well.
As a sometime recruiter it amazes me how illiterate the current generation is - that's all creeds and colours. They can barely write, punctuate or spell. They should be at school all day every day to prepare them for life. I wouldn't employ any illiterate - if you can't even communicate accurately in the only worldwide language that matters these days, then you'll never get a job. That comment is for most of the posters on here as well. Superdoo
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7:05pm Fri 3 Feb 12

william bodie says...

dapiackle wrote:
william bodie wrote:
dapiackle wrote:
I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.
if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something.
Mate I read the entire thread, with some dismay, before posting (I don't post much but I always read). The *sigh - yawn* bit was not because the topic was boring, rather it was about the fact that yet again, as you quite rightly point out, a perfectly decent debate was hijacked, some ridiculous and irrelevant race cards were played, and risked degenerating quickly into the usual pathetic slanging match between the usual suspects, except for once people saw it for what it was. In terms of the fact / opinion dilemma, surely a discussion forum is to offer ones' opinion (backed up with evidence wherever possible) rather than bombard and bore the reader to death with 'facts', which in this case would presumably be statistics? And since when were statistics 'facts' anyway, especially when they are 'official' statistics like these? Remember 'lies, damned lies and statistics?' 'Facts' are very hard to come by with issues such as this, the best you can hope for is some trends & patterns, and explanations rather than 'answers', which is what I was trying to offer in and amongst all the "I arnt bein funni but you carnt spel you pikey", "end o't day it's imagrents wot don't send there kids 2 skwl", "no it int bro its da white trash" nonsense.
fair enough, well put.
[quote][p][bold]dapiackle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]william bodie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dapiackle[/bold] wrote: I should also add that given the chances of successful prosecution are so low, if you really aren't bothered whether your kids go to school it's a risk worth taking cos you'll probably get away with it. But fundamentally, I have to say that if what passes for education these days was more appealing and less about endless testing, league tables, exams, fewer kids of all backgrounds would vote with their fake Ugg Boots.[/p][/quote]if you had paid as much attention to the comments as you appear to have done about your facts and figures you would notice there was a reasonable discussion going on before PIMPS jumped on and started to bring race into it, thankfully on this occasion people could see it for what it was and didn't enter into it. i notice your facts are all backed up with opinion, which isn't fact is it? and if the comments make you *sigh yawn* then maybe you should test your self a bit more, do some Sudoku or something.[/p][/quote]Mate I read the entire thread, with some dismay, before posting (I don't post much but I always read). The *sigh - yawn* bit was not because the topic was boring, rather it was about the fact that yet again, as you quite rightly point out, a perfectly decent debate was hijacked, some ridiculous and irrelevant race cards were played, and risked degenerating quickly into the usual pathetic slanging match between the usual suspects, except for once people saw it for what it was. In terms of the fact / opinion dilemma, surely a discussion forum is to offer ones' opinion (backed up with evidence wherever possible) rather than bombard and bore the reader to death with 'facts', which in this case would presumably be statistics? And since when were statistics 'facts' anyway, especially when they are 'official' statistics like these? Remember 'lies, damned lies and statistics?' 'Facts' are very hard to come by with issues such as this, the best you can hope for is some trends & patterns, and explanations rather than 'answers', which is what I was trying to offer in and amongst all the "I arnt bein funni but you carnt spel you pikey", "end o't day it's imagrents wot don't send there kids 2 skwl", "no it int bro its da white trash" nonsense.[/p][/quote]fair enough, well put. william bodie
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