Bradford College has right ingredients for training of chefs

Bradford College has right ingredients for training of chefs

A Bradford College student works in the International Food Academy kitchen

A Bradford College student works in the International Food Academy kitchen

A Bradford College student works in the International Food Academy kitchen

A Bradford College student works in the International Food Academy kitchen

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Britain is busy plugging the skills gap with apprenticeships.

For years the lure of more lucrative jobs in technology-related professions diverted many young people away from the traditional hands-on trades, so it’s no surprise the country started to suffer the shortage of such skills.

Investment into training cour-ses is helping to bridge that gap and, in the same way, Bradford – currently the Curry Capital of Britain – is now stepping into the breach to stem a skills shortage in curry chefs.

In May last year the college launched its International Food Academy to prevent what has been referred to as an ‘unprecedented curry crisis’ due to a tightening of immigration laws leaving Indian restaurateurs struggling to find skilled chefs.

There are currently more than 50 students on the course ranging from apprentices to the unemployed.

For 20-year-old single mum, Demi Shoesmith, from Cleckheaton, the academy is giving her the opportunity to learn a skill and achieve a long-term goal. “I always love to cook, especially home cooking and I want to do this and get a degree in cooking so I can open a place abroad for me and my daughter,” says Demi, referring to her three-year-old, Skyler.

Learning how to cook international cuisine – her particular penchant is creating authentic pakoras and onion bhajis – is essential when catering for foreign customers.

“I have a lot of Asian friends and they all say I cook great for them. I have a friend who is Turkish and I have cooked for her and she loved it,” says Demi, who enrolled on the course in September.

Stirring the custard ready for the steamed syrup pudding she has prepared, Demi talks of the struggles young people often face when seeking employment. “I think with me being a single mum as well didn’t help,” says Demi, referring to it being perceived they may not be able to give 100 per cent to their job while juggling childcare.

“But single mums need a job just as much as anybody,” she adds.

“And I want to speak out to young mums who want to reach out to their goals and dreams.”

Sania Ali, 24, from Bradford, is a newcomer on the course. “I have always been interested and I want to become a chef,” she says.

Angelo Towse, 33, also from Bradford, joined the course in September to expand his culinary knowledge. “I love food and I want to indulge my passion for food, but I don’t just want to concentrate on one food. I want to get the basics right and I really like eating curry so it’s like a dream come true – I am not just consuming it, I am learning how to cook it myself.”

Angelo says he wouldn’t mind working in the kitchens of an Asian restaurant. He said: “Personally, I think it doesn’t matter your age, or sex or the colour of your skin. If you really want to learn something and somebody is willing to teach you it has got to be a bonus for both sides.”

Having run a similar operation in conjunction with a Chinese restaurant in a previous post, Graham Fleming, head of the International Food Academy, was confident it would work.

“Artisan crafts and trades have been re-born,” says Graham.

“There are so many jobs in hospitality and I cannot accept there are one million unemployed 16 to 25-year-olds. I know there are jobs in the community and they will say ‘I don’t want to do that’ but there are lots of opportunity in hospitality and food manufacturing at all levels and they have to start somewhere. Coming on an apprenticeship is the right starting point.”

With a relatively small expenditure, the college’s disused refectory was given a bright and stylish make-over providing the perfect environment for culinary training.

Students can enrol on the course at 19, an age group poorly funded according to the academy’s head chef, Colin Burt.

“The Government funding at the moment is poor for the 19-plus age group so there is no shortage of people wanting to come on a course like this and, despite the fact there are one million young people unemployed, there are a lot of vacancies for chefs, particularly because in Bradford the Asian restaurants have another problem with the tightening of immigration laws,” he explains.

Heightening media interest in the academy has been a boon, he said, and the awareness it has generated will, hopefully, stem the burgeoning ‘curry crisis’.

“I think the whole school system is geared to get them academically trained and if you look at the continent they filter non-academic students towards hands-on jobs such as catering and I think we need to follow that,” says Colin.

Communities secretary and former Bradford Council leader, Eric Pickles, has already give0n his backing to the launch of curry colleges across the UK. “And Bradford College is trying to address the issue,” says Colin.

Expanding the international culinary skills of Western chefs is one thing, breaking the taboo is another. According to Graham, the idea of Western chefs working in the kitchens of Asian restaurants is something the Asian businesses they are working with are now embracing with the offer of work experience.

This partnership will be further enhanced by Friday’s patron appointments. Chief patron is Mohammed Aslam, managing director of the Aagrah Group of restaurants. Associate patrons are Bobby Patel, from Prashad restaurant, whose wife Minal is a tutor on the course, and Charalene Lee, managing director of Dragon Thai in Bradford.

Mohammed Aslam says being installed as chief patron is an honour and he is pleased to support the academy.

“The reason why I accepted being part of it is importing chefs from the sub-continent is a short-term solution but the permanent problem is the training,” he says. “I wanted to be part of it is making a long-term solution to other problems and train the unemployed people here.”

A high profile is imperative and you can’t fault staff for keeping the academy in the public eye. Last year they became holders of the onion bhaji world record and there are events planned this year with the junior curry chef competition finals – which celebrity chef Brian Turner is expected to attend – and a charity dinner, both in April.

Says Colin: “We have definitely hit a vein with this and identified what was required and, because we are Bradford College, we like to cater for the needs of the city.”

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11:35am Thu 19 Jan 12

Albion. says...

Good news! We shouldn't need to import more chefs then.
Good news! We shouldn't need to import more chefs then. Albion.
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12:15pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Bone_idle18 says...

I don't see why we need to import chefs anyway, surely there must be enough decent chefs in the ciommunity as it is?

Unless it's just an immigration scam of course!
I don't see why we need to import chefs anyway, surely there must be enough decent chefs in the ciommunity as it is? Unless it's just an immigration scam of course! Bone_idle18
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2:46pm Thu 19 Jan 12

BD16 says...

"Communities secretary and former Bradford Council leader, Eric Pickles, has already given his backing to the launch of curry colleges across the UK"

No surprise there then!!
"Communities secretary and former Bradford Council leader, Eric Pickles, has already given his backing to the launch of curry colleges across the UK" No surprise there then!! BD16
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2:48pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Bornagain2him says...

How is this going to bridge the skill gap, when one of the students openly says she is only learning the skill "so I can open a place abroad for me and my daughter". Don't get me wrong, more grease to her elbow, but this is hardly going to bridge a skills gap is it? training people so they can emigrate!
How is this going to bridge the skill gap, when one of the students openly says she is only learning the skill "so I can open a place abroad for me and my daughter". Don't get me wrong, more grease to her elbow, but this is hardly going to bridge a skills gap is it? training people so they can emigrate! Bornagain2him
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3:13pm Thu 19 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Albion. wrote:
Good news! We shouldn't need to import more chefs then.
There we go again!! What a surprise Albion!! NOT!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: Good news! We shouldn't need to import more chefs then.[/p][/quote]There we go again!! What a surprise Albion!! NOT!! P.I.M.P.S
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3:21pm Thu 19 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!!

Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do!

And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this)

And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs!

E.g.
Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g. P.I.M.P.S
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3:36pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Joedavid says...

Do they learn English cooking as well, so they can take our foods home.
Hope more than custard a sticky pudding.
Do they learn English cooking as well, so they can take our foods home. Hope more than custard a sticky pudding. Joedavid
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3:37pm Thu 19 Jan 12

BD16 says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.
In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they.

"because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this"
Where do you get your statistics from?

To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings. BD16
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3:45pm Thu 19 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

BD16 wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.
In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.
The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience...

Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!!

and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!!

And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!!
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.[/p][/quote]The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!! P.I.M.P.S
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3:51pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Farsley Bantam says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
BD16 wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.
In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.
The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!!
I think you must work as toilet attendant judging by your 'knowledge' in this area.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.[/p][/quote]The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!![/p][/quote]I think you must work as toilet attendant judging by your 'knowledge' in this area. Farsley Bantam
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3:57pm Thu 19 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote:
BD16 wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.
In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.
The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!!
I think you must work as toilet attendant judging by your 'knowledge' in this area.
haha, good one! made me chuckle!
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.[/p][/quote]The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!![/p][/quote]I think you must work as toilet attendant judging by your 'knowledge' in this area.[/p][/quote]haha, good one! made me chuckle! P.I.M.P.S
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6:18pm Thu 19 Jan 12

spark9990 says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!!

Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do!

And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this)

And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs!

E.g.
Let me just say one muslim to another - your ignorance, prejudice and bigotry disgusts me.
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]Let me just say one muslim to another - your ignorance, prejudice and bigotry disgusts me. spark9990
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7:38pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Colin Allcars says...

If it's an 'international food academy', why is the academy all about filling the gap in Indian (ie Pakistani/bangladesh
i muslim 'restaurants')?
If it's an 'international food academy', why is the academy all about filling the gap in Indian (ie Pakistani/bangladesh i muslim 'restaurants')? Colin Allcars
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7:42pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Colin Allcars says...

P.I.M.P.S wrote:
BD16 wrote:
P.I.M.P.S wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.
In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.
The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!!
Should you be going round public toilets looking at men?
[quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]P.I.M.P.S[/bold] wrote: Right a few reasons this won't work... To make a good, traditional curry you need to have been born and taught to cook in that reagion of the world. A british born white girl will never make it trying to cook traditional authetic Indian food, because urrrm, let me guess it won't be authentic and traditional!!! Secondly she wouldn't be willing to work for around £4p/h or less, which is what most of these people are more than willing to work for and is a fair rate for the job they do! And most of all because of most the popular and busy establishments in Bradford are frequented mainly by Asian/Muslims who would never eat a curry made by non muslim (mainly because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this) And this last point is off topic really, why am I not surprised that she is 20, single, un-employed, single mother with a 3yr old. So how old was she when she had a child? Typical of Bradford chavs! E.g.[/p][/quote]In that case I had better not go to an asian owned fish and chip shop, because they won't be authentic would they. "because you can't be assured they have stuck to the strict hygeine requirements which is neccesary for halal, e.g. washing your hands after you use the toilet, aorunf 90% of white people don't do this" Where do you get your statistics from? To be fair. I looked up the take away that you work in. You know, the one you have shamelessly plugged on here a couple of times. You do get good marks on the "scores on the doors" hygeine ratings.[/p][/quote]The 90% not washing themselves or their hands is not a stat, its from personal experience... Not washing themselves after peeing and pooping is 100%... I don't get how you blokes can put your thingy back in your pants and just walk on whilst that warm afters dribbles down your thighs??? How do you guys do it??? Don't even get me started on number 2, lol, dirty beggars!! and as for washing your hands, im afraid you all know this to be true, no many white men will wash their hands after using the bathroom, its extremely rare to see one doing this!! And for the place I work, I don't work there, lol!![/p][/quote]Should you be going round public toilets looking at men? Colin Allcars
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2:09am Fri 20 Jan 12

James42 says...

Can i just say, the daft comments about hygiene are quite simply not needed. As an ex student of chef Burt, washing your hands prior to starting a working day within the catering dept at Bradford College, was mandatory. If we weren't observed doing this, then basically, you shouldn't even consider being a chef in the first place. On a lighter note, i am so glad to see Bradford College getting the recognition it needs. Well done Graham Fleming for getting this project off the ground, and making some personal dreams come true in the Bradford area. Finally, a great big WELL DONE to chef Colin Burt for doing a great job in running such an interesting and fascinating course for all his students, past and present. And of course, the help from Bobby, Kaushy and Minal from Prashad. Keep up the amazing work guys, and maybe someday soon, we will see the rise of many more curry restaurants in Bradford, all thanks to Bradford College, and the International Food Academy.
Can i just say, the daft comments about hygiene are quite simply not needed. As an ex student of chef Burt, washing your hands prior to starting a working day within the catering dept at Bradford College, was mandatory. If we weren't observed doing this, then basically, you shouldn't even consider being a chef in the first place. On a lighter note, i am so glad to see Bradford College getting the recognition it needs. Well done Graham Fleming for getting this project off the ground, and making some personal dreams come true in the Bradford area. Finally, a great big WELL DONE to chef Colin Burt for doing a great job in running such an interesting and fascinating course for all his students, past and present. And of course, the help from Bobby, Kaushy and Minal from Prashad. Keep up the amazing work guys, and maybe someday soon, we will see the rise of many more curry restaurants in Bradford, all thanks to Bradford College, and the International Food Academy. James42
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4:57pm Fri 20 Jan 12

P.I.M.P.S says...

James42 wrote:
Can i just say, the daft comments about hygiene are quite simply not needed. As an ex student of chef Burt, washing your hands prior to starting a working day within the catering dept at Bradford College, was mandatory. If we weren't observed doing this, then basically, you shouldn't even consider being a chef in the first place. On a lighter note, i am so glad to see Bradford College getting the recognition it needs. Well done Graham Fleming for getting this project off the ground, and making some personal dreams come true in the Bradford area. Finally, a great big WELL DONE to chef Colin Burt for doing a great job in running such an interesting and fascinating course for all his students, past and present. And of course, the help from Bobby, Kaushy and Minal from Prashad. Keep up the amazing work guys, and maybe someday soon, we will see the rise of many more curry restaurants in Bradford, all thanks to Bradford College, and the International Food Academy.
Highly unlikely it would be down to the academy, but anything that gets more restaurants up is good news... I want to see more authentic Indian restaurants.
[quote][p][bold]James42[/bold] wrote: Can i just say, the daft comments about hygiene are quite simply not needed. As an ex student of chef Burt, washing your hands prior to starting a working day within the catering dept at Bradford College, was mandatory. If we weren't observed doing this, then basically, you shouldn't even consider being a chef in the first place. On a lighter note, i am so glad to see Bradford College getting the recognition it needs. Well done Graham Fleming for getting this project off the ground, and making some personal dreams come true in the Bradford area. Finally, a great big WELL DONE to chef Colin Burt for doing a great job in running such an interesting and fascinating course for all his students, past and present. And of course, the help from Bobby, Kaushy and Minal from Prashad. Keep up the amazing work guys, and maybe someday soon, we will see the rise of many more curry restaurants in Bradford, all thanks to Bradford College, and the International Food Academy.[/p][/quote]Highly unlikely it would be down to the academy, but anything that gets more restaurants up is good news... I want to see more authentic Indian restaurants. P.I.M.P.S
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