Sat results improve but Bradford primary school still below average (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

The only true measure of a school is the value added measure. Well done Lapage!
The census results showing that Bradford has the biggest pakistani population in the country is of massive relevance.
My children were taught English from birth, so that when they arrived at primary school they were at least familiar with spoken English. This is not the case in so many households in our city where Czech, Slovak, Polish, Urdu etc... are the kids first language, and all of their education in the English language is done by the schools.
It is no surprise that the highest acheiving schools by the measure of attainment levels are in affluent, middle class, predominantly white british populated areas.

A person can only work with the raw materials they have, and from the starting point they have. This is not a bad news story, it simply indictates how things that schools and our local authority cannot control, still impact on the success of youngsters.

So well done kids, and well done to your teachers and support staff.

Not exactly huge differences in most of these percentage rates in the West Yorkshire LA figures

1 or 2% is quite a lot when you consider the numbers involved.

I wouldn't mine 1% of the total tax paid in the UK!

Mine , not mine.

Third time lucky. Mind, not mine!!!

A desire to be average in West Yorkshire sums up the problem.

At the moment, Bradford is low and getting lower in comparison to other areas - blame the kids, the parents, the socio-economics, the ethnography, or whatever, it's still just blaming and not addressing. If the normal model is failing Bradford's kids, then change the model because we can't change the kids we get in our schools.

Bradford needs a revolution in the way it educates its children yet nobody seems to be challenging the status quo which is so obviously failing our kids. If insanity is doing the same thing in the same way and expecting different results, education in Bradford is insane.

Stop talking and do something. Ask experts, ask teachers, ask schools, ask parents what needs to change, and then change it.

Bradford is one of the worst performing LAs and seems destined to stay there is we do the same thing everybody else does.

As an aside, a high percentage of the worst LAs are in the North - why is the London-based government(s) failing us so badly, and why are we letting them?

Old Dave wrote:
The only true measure of a school is the value added measure. Well done Lapage!
The census results showing that Bradford has the biggest pakistani population in the country is of massive relevance.
My children were taught English from birth, so that when they arrived at primary school they were at least familiar with spoken English. This is not the case in so many households in our city where Czech, Slovak, Polish, Urdu etc... are the kids first language, and all of their education in the English language is done by the schools.
It is no surprise that the highest acheiving schools by the measure of attainment levels are in affluent, middle class, predominantly white british populated areas.

A person can only work with the raw materials they have, and from the starting point they have. This is not a bad news story, it simply indictates how things that schools and our local authority cannot control, still impact on the success of youngsters.

So well done kids, and well done to your teachers and support staff.

Not so many years ago your statement “Bradford has the biggest pakistani (Pakistani) population in the country is of massive relevance.” Would have read “Bradford has the biggest black population in the country is of massive relevance.” Blame the children and their ethnicity for the failings of Bradford schools. What a sad comment, however, not unpredictable on this forum.

The only way to go forward is to control immigration, We in Bradford have been told for the last 40 years that integration is the way to go. But how can this happen, when we keep getting hundreds of thousands of new arrivals. The population of Bradford has always been told it will get better. The carrot has gone stale. WE'VE ARRIVED, at a city decimated by political correctness. Don't have kids here in Bradford. Get a dog.

It is wrong to assert that a small unrepresentative group of Muslim activists tried to islamises a state primary school in Woking. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools. They are not extremists who want to change of ethos of those schools where Muslim children are in majority. It is the democratic right of every Muslim parent to see that their children receive balanced education, so that when their children grow up, they do not find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and linguistic skills. It is a question of common sense, humanity and reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. The whole world believes that people who speak more than one language is a vital economic asset. Pupils who speak more than one language do not cause difficulties. It is the politicians and monolingual teachers who are the problems for bilingual pupils. Muslim school will help to cultivate the child into a healthy, fully flourishing individual with a passion for learning. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.

Muslim schools are not only faith schools; they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. State schools with monolingual teachers do not teach Standard English to Migrant children. Bilingual Muslim children learn English in the playgrounds and in the streets. They speak street language with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are Muslims. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classroom. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it’s their role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.

Muslim faith schools are more or less bilingual schools. Priority will be given to the teaching of Standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic and at the same time they will learn and be well versed in one of the community language to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Iftikhar wrote:
It is wrong to assert that a small unrepresentative group of Muslim activists tried to islamises a state primary school in Woking. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools. They are not extremists who want to change of ethos of those schools where Muslim children are in majority. It is the democratic right of every Muslim parent to see that their children receive balanced education, so that when their children grow up, they do not find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and linguistic skills. It is a question of common sense, humanity and reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. The whole world believes that people who speak more than one language is a vital economic asset. Pupils who speak more than one language do not cause difficulties. It is the politicians and monolingual teachers who are the problems for bilingual pupils. Muslim school will help to cultivate the child into a healthy, fully flourishing individual with a passion for learning. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.

Muslim schools are not only faith schools; they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. State schools with monolingual teachers do not teach Standard English to Migrant children. Bilingual Muslim children learn English in the playgrounds and in the streets. They speak street language with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are Muslims. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classroom. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it’s their role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.

Muslim faith schools are more or less bilingual schools. Priority will be given to the teaching of Standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic and at the same time they will learn and be well versed in one of the community language to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu.
Iftikhar Ahmad

No it isn't, it's English.

Albion. wrote:

Iftikhar wrote:
It is wrong to assert that a small unrepresentative group of Muslim activists tried to islamises a state primary school in Woking. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools. They are not extremists who want to change of ethos of those schools where Muslim children are in majority. It is the democratic right of every Muslim parent to see that their children receive balanced education, so that when their children grow up, they do not find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and linguistic skills. It is a question of common sense, humanity and reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. The whole world believes that people who speak more than one language is a vital economic asset. Pupils who speak more than one language do not cause difficulties. It is the politicians and monolingual teachers who are the problems for bilingual pupils. Muslim school will help to cultivate the child into a healthy, fully flourishing individual with a passion for learning. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.

Muslim schools are not only faith schools; they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. State schools with monolingual teachers do not teach Standard English to Migrant children. Bilingual Muslim children learn English in the playgrounds and in the streets. They speak street language with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are Muslims. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classroom. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it’s their role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.

Muslim faith schools are more or less bilingual schools. Priority will be given to the teaching of Standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic and at the same time they will learn and be well versed in one of the community language to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu.
Iftikhar Ahmad

No it isn't, it's English.

Absolutely correct, moreover, when the Koran is more freely available in the English language, which is happening more quickly in the US a new genesis of Islam shall be awaken.

Outraged English Subject wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Iftikhar wrote:
It is wrong to assert that a small unrepresentative group of Muslim activists tried to islamises a state primary school in Woking. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools. They are not extremists who want to change of ethos of those schools where Muslim children are in majority. It is the democratic right of every Muslim parent to see that their children receive balanced education, so that when their children grow up, they do not find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and linguistic skills. It is a question of common sense, humanity and reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. The whole world believes that people who speak more than one language is a vital economic asset. Pupils who speak more than one language do not cause difficulties. It is the politicians and monolingual teachers who are the problems for bilingual pupils. Muslim school will help to cultivate the child into a healthy, fully flourishing individual with a passion for learning. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.

Muslim schools are not only faith schools; they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. State schools with monolingual teachers do not teach Standard English to Migrant children. Bilingual Muslim children learn English in the playgrounds and in the streets. They speak street language with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are Muslims. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classroom. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it’s their role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.

Muslim faith schools are more or less bilingual schools. Priority will be given to the teaching of Standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic and at the same time they will learn and be well versed in one of the community language to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu.
Iftikhar Ahmad

No it isn't, it's English.

Absolutely correct, moreover, when the Koran is more freely available in the English language, which is happening more quickly in the US a new genesis of Islam shall be awaken.

WHS has had them for years.
To some people it simply re-enforces their opinion that anyone who follows such nonsense is .....you know the rest.

Agreed, however in the US the English language versions are widely used in mosques and at pray meetings… small steps.