Details of Bradford Odeon proposals to be revealed tomorrow

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: The Odeon building, which could become a music venue The Odeon building, which could become a music venue

DETAILS of two rival plans which would each safeguard the future of the Odeon in Bradford will go on public display this week.

Bradford Council has organised an exhibition to illustrate bids by Bradford One and Bradford Live, which both have plans to breathe new life into the landmark building.

Both want to transform the former cinema, which had been under threat of demolition, to create a new live performance venue but would take different approaches to the way it would be funded and operated.

The exhibition takes place tomorrow at the City Park pavilion building, from noon to 7pm.

Bradford One's plan would create a music venue capable of taking an audience of up to 3,100 but the building would also become a focal point in the city centre, with restaurants and bars open every day.

The facade facing City Park would be replaced with a glass frontage to help link it into the city centre.

Part of the £20m development cost would be met by developing the rear of the site with around 300 new student flats, with grants, loans and a community share issue designed to raise up to £500,000.

Bradford One spokesman Gideon Seymour said the costings for the venue had been worked out and it was expected to generate significant profits, which would be pumped back into other cultural projects in the city.

"It is important to us that the Odeon building is open and we intent to replace the facade outside City Park with a full height glass structure so people inside can see out and people in City Park can see in," he said.

If the scheme was chosen, ownership of the Odeon would be transferred to Bradford One.

Bradford Live has put in an alternative bid, which would see the building pared back to its original design and restored as a music venue with a capacity for audiences of around 4,000, making it Yorkshire's third largest venue after the Leeds and Sheffield arenas.

It would expect to set up a charity to take over running the building, in conjunction with a commercial operator, leaving Bradford Council with ultimate ownership of the building.

"There is a big gap in the middle between arena capacities and smaller venues. This kind of capacity would attract major bands and put Bradford back on the national touring circuit," spokesman Lee Craven said.

Bradford Live's plans would be expected to cost between £15m and £19m, depending on the level of restoration work.

After next week’s exhibition, Bradford Council will have to decide whether either scheme is considered viable.

A decision on their evaluation of the schemes is expected by July.

If both are considered to be workable, there will be further evaluation work done through the summer and autumn, with a decision on the council’s preferred bidder – the scheme most likely to proceed – will be announced in November.

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7:15pm Wed 18 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa. bcfc1903
  • Score: 4

7:31pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off.
So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.[/p][/quote]Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off. So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good. Joedavid
  • Score: 10

10:44pm Wed 18 Jun 14

MrQuinque says...

I cannot get my head around BradfordOne wanting to build student flats on the rear of the building, especially as it was office space in their original proposal. How exactly do they expect to get residential planning next to a late night live music venue, especially when planning has been refused for a similar development on the plot next door?

And where exactly are any visiting acts supposed to park their coach/trucks/Vans etc if you build on the car park?
I cannot get my head around BradfordOne wanting to build student flats on the rear of the building, especially as it was office space in their original proposal. How exactly do they expect to get residential planning next to a late night live music venue, especially when planning has been refused for a similar development on the plot next door? And where exactly are any visiting acts supposed to park their coach/trucks/Vans etc if you build on the car park? MrQuinque
  • Score: 6

1:11am Thu 19 Jun 14

Gideon Seymour says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Hi bcfc1903
We (Bradford One) hope that one of us gets the nod because demolition would not be good for Bradford. Our architects, Halliday Clark, have worked out the capacity based on modern standards and we think the 2,500 (seated) and 3,100 (stalls standing) is the most that can be safely and comfortably be accommodated in the space provided by the auditorium. You are right that maximising the capacity will be crucial to the venue's viability but also think that trying to squeeze too many people into the available space would lead to the same kind of problems that other existing venues experience. We hope that we've got the balance right and certainly the conversations with venue operators that we've had suggest that the kind of capacity we're talking about is viable and sustainable.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.[/p][/quote]Hi bcfc1903 We (Bradford One) hope that one of us gets the nod because demolition would not be good for Bradford. Our architects, Halliday Clark, have worked out the capacity based on modern standards and we think the 2,500 (seated) and 3,100 (stalls standing) is the most that can be safely and comfortably be accommodated in the space provided by the auditorium. You are right that maximising the capacity will be crucial to the venue's viability but also think that trying to squeeze too many people into the available space would lead to the same kind of problems that other existing venues experience. We hope that we've got the balance right and certainly the conversations with venue operators that we've had suggest that the kind of capacity we're talking about is viable and sustainable. Gideon Seymour
  • Score: 1

1:22am Thu 19 Jun 14

Gideon Seymour says...

MrQuinque wrote:
I cannot get my head around BradfordOne wanting to build student flats on the rear of the building, especially as it was office space in their original proposal. How exactly do they expect to get residential planning next to a late night live music venue, especially when planning has been refused for a similar development on the plot next door?

And where exactly are any visiting acts supposed to park their coach/trucks/Vans etc if you build on the car park?
Hi MrQuinque
Our (Bradford One) plans for student flats is based on a market analysis by experienced commercial property agents Mark Brearley & Co who advise us that student accommodation is more commercially attractive than office space. It should be noted that it is not our intention to build or operate the student flats but simply to offer the site, with planning permission, for sale to developers who we believe will be interested in such a development. This will then give us a significant capital receipt that will go towards the significant cost of refurbishing the former Odeon building. We have discussed these plans with Bradford's planning department who have not raised any objections to our proposed scheme.

With regard to parking for visiting acts, we are advised by the operators of other venues, including the Leeds Arena, that it is common for venues to arrange secure off-site parking for the vehicles you identify.

If you, or anyone else, have any further queries why not come down to the exhibition in City Park tomorrow or drop-in to our regular Saturday morning Q&A sessions at Forster's Bistro between 10am and 12 noon.
[quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I cannot get my head around BradfordOne wanting to build student flats on the rear of the building, especially as it was office space in their original proposal. How exactly do they expect to get residential planning next to a late night live music venue, especially when planning has been refused for a similar development on the plot next door? And where exactly are any visiting acts supposed to park their coach/trucks/Vans etc if you build on the car park?[/p][/quote]Hi MrQuinque Our (Bradford One) plans for student flats is based on a market analysis by experienced commercial property agents Mark Brearley & Co who advise us that student accommodation is more commercially attractive than office space. It should be noted that it is not our intention to build or operate the student flats but simply to offer the site, with planning permission, for sale to developers who we believe will be interested in such a development. This will then give us a significant capital receipt that will go towards the significant cost of refurbishing the former Odeon building. We have discussed these plans with Bradford's planning department who have not raised any objections to our proposed scheme. With regard to parking for visiting acts, we are advised by the operators of other venues, including the Leeds Arena, that it is common for venues to arrange secure off-site parking for the vehicles you identify. If you, or anyone else, have any further queries why not come down to the exhibition in City Park tomorrow or drop-in to our regular Saturday morning Q&A sessions at Forster's Bistro between 10am and 12 noon. Gideon Seymour
  • Score: 2

9:27am Thu 19 Jun 14

gaggedandbound says...

I think the Bradford Live plan looks like a very professional scheme. They are using the country's cream of theatrical professionals to bring the Odeon back to life as a commercial money making venue that will get the big names and draw in the crowds. Also good to see a Bradford business man putting his own hard earned money into something he believes in for the good of the City. Not so sure of Bradford One, and how they plan to satisfy all the shareholders demands. It also seems this scheme is dependent on the council 'giving' them the Odeon plot, whereas the Bradford Live scheme still allows the Council ownership of the site. Really not keen on the huge projection of the ugly unimaginative design of the student flats planned for behind the Odeon, that totally ruins the skyline and Thornton Road facade of the building IMHO. Also hard to imagine how students will be able to live and work behind the noise of a large live music venue, seems like a big flaw in the plan.
I think the Bradford Live plan looks like a very professional scheme. They are using the country's cream of theatrical professionals to bring the Odeon back to life as a commercial money making venue that will get the big names and draw in the crowds. Also good to see a Bradford business man putting his own hard earned money into something he believes in for the good of the City. Not so sure of Bradford One, and how they plan to satisfy all the shareholders demands. It also seems this scheme is dependent on the council 'giving' them the Odeon plot, whereas the Bradford Live scheme still allows the Council ownership of the site. Really not keen on the huge projection of the ugly unimaginative design of the student flats planned for behind the Odeon, that totally ruins the skyline and Thornton Road facade of the building IMHO. Also hard to imagine how students will be able to live and work behind the noise of a large live music venue, seems like a big flaw in the plan. gaggedandbound
  • Score: 5

9:44am Thu 19 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Gideon Seymour wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Hi bcfc1903
We (Bradford One) hope that one of us gets the nod because demolition would not be good for Bradford. Our architects, Halliday Clark, have worked out the capacity based on modern standards and we think the 2,500 (seated) and 3,100 (stalls standing) is the most that can be safely and comfortably be accommodated in the space provided by the auditorium. You are right that maximising the capacity will be crucial to the venue's viability but also think that trying to squeeze too many people into the available space would lead to the same kind of problems that other existing venues experience. We hope that we've got the balance right and certainly the conversations with venue operators that we've had suggest that the kind of capacity we're talking about is viable and sustainable.
Hi Gideon,

I agree, demolition would not be good for Bradford, in fact I don't think Bradfordians would forgive those that brought the wrecking ball in. I take your point about comfort. I've made my choice but may the best scheme win. Thanks for replying Gideon, I'll be taking a closer look at the plans in the City Park pavilion later this week..
[quote][p][bold]Gideon Seymour[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.[/p][/quote]Hi bcfc1903 We (Bradford One) hope that one of us gets the nod because demolition would not be good for Bradford. Our architects, Halliday Clark, have worked out the capacity based on modern standards and we think the 2,500 (seated) and 3,100 (stalls standing) is the most that can be safely and comfortably be accommodated in the space provided by the auditorium. You are right that maximising the capacity will be crucial to the venue's viability but also think that trying to squeeze too many people into the available space would lead to the same kind of problems that other existing venues experience. We hope that we've got the balance right and certainly the conversations with venue operators that we've had suggest that the kind of capacity we're talking about is viable and sustainable.[/p][/quote]Hi Gideon, I agree, demolition would not be good for Bradford, in fact I don't think Bradfordians would forgive those that brought the wrecking ball in. I take your point about comfort. I've made my choice but may the best scheme win. Thanks for replying Gideon, I'll be taking a closer look at the plans in the City Park pavilion later this week.. bcfc1903
  • Score: 6

9:57am Thu 19 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition?
Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition? Joedavid
  • Score: 2

9:57am Thu 19 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition?
Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition? Joedavid
  • Score: 2

10:13am Thu 19 Jun 14

gaggedandbound says...

Bradford One plan to 'own' the building. Why should they be given the building that belongs to everyone in Bradford? It is a council asset and should not be sold to a 'community group' who each pay a few pounds to become a member. Sounds like jobs for the boys to me. Bradford Live on the other hand plan to run the building using professional operators along with a charity formed by Bradford Live and the ownership of the building will still be retained by the council. I know who I trust!
Bradford One plan to 'own' the building. Why should they be given the building that belongs to everyone in Bradford? It is a council asset and should not be sold to a 'community group' who each pay a few pounds to become a member. Sounds like jobs for the boys to me. Bradford Live on the other hand plan to run the building using professional operators along with a charity formed by Bradford Live and the ownership of the building will still be retained by the council. I know who I trust! gaggedandbound
  • Score: 2

10:15am Thu 19 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Joedavid wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off.
So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good.
I think nowadays with so much emphasis on the live performance rather than CD sales it's crucial to get a venue with a capacity to attract. I take Gideon's point about comfort but if you can get 4,000 or above that figure in the Odeon building comfortably then you have to maximise the capacity to draw world class artists and bands. The market is out there, as there are many such artists and bands that can't come close to filling Arena venues.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.[/p][/quote]Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off. So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good.[/p][/quote]I think nowadays with so much emphasis on the live performance rather than CD sales it's crucial to get a venue with a capacity to attract. I take Gideon's point about comfort but if you can get 4,000 or above that figure in the Odeon building comfortably then you have to maximise the capacity to draw world class artists and bands. The market is out there, as there are many such artists and bands that can't come close to filling Arena venues. bcfc1903
  • Score: 7

10:26am Thu 19 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.
Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off.
So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good.
I think nowadays with so much emphasis on the live performance rather than CD sales it's crucial to get a venue with a capacity to attract. I take Gideon's point about comfort but if you can get 4,000 or above that figure in the Odeon building comfortably then you have to maximise the capacity to draw world class artists and bands. The market is out there, as there are many such artists and bands that can't come close to filling Arena venues.
Local world class talent in the ex Leeds College of Music student John Newman and Embrace have already said they would love to perform at Bradford Live and Bradford's own Dynamo has said he'd like to come back and perform at a refurbished Odeon building, all three would fill the place in my humble opinion.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Much prefer the Odeon Live scheme, a capacity of 4,100 would attract world class artists and bands to Bradford. It's a no brainer. Hopefully one or the other gets the nod because demolition of the Odeon building would be political suicide in my humble opinion. I'm sure a viable scheme has to be connected to the overall capacity and to attract world class acts I'd say 4,000 is a minimum regarding financing such gigs involving for example Joe Bonamassa.[/p][/quote]Leeds Arena can take 13,500 but when I have been there it was set up for 5000 and 6000. On each occasion the unused parts are curtained off. So the 4000 proposal for Bradford sounds good.[/p][/quote]I think nowadays with so much emphasis on the live performance rather than CD sales it's crucial to get a venue with a capacity to attract. I take Gideon's point about comfort but if you can get 4,000 or above that figure in the Odeon building comfortably then you have to maximise the capacity to draw world class artists and bands. The market is out there, as there are many such artists and bands that can't come close to filling Arena venues.[/p][/quote]Local world class talent in the ex Leeds College of Music student John Newman and Embrace have already said they would love to perform at Bradford Live and Bradford's own Dynamo has said he'd like to come back and perform at a refurbished Odeon building, all three would fill the place in my humble opinion. bcfc1903
  • Score: 4

1:49pm Thu 19 Jun 14

mattshaw says...

Joedavid wrote:
Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition?
Hi Joe, BORG will be calling in throughout the day and look forward to seeing the proposals.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Over the years the main body trying to save the Odeon have been BORG will they be at this exhibition?[/p][/quote]Hi Joe, BORG will be calling in throughout the day and look forward to seeing the proposals. mattshaw
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Thu 19 Jun 14

AndyWineHands says...

Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.
Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind. AndyWineHands
  • Score: 0

10:06am Mon 23 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

AndyWineHands wrote:
Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.
There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands.
[quote][p][bold]AndyWineHands[/bold] wrote: Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.[/p][/quote]There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

10:19am Mon 23 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
AndyWineHands wrote:
Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.
There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands.
Surely it will be H&S people who say how many seats there can be. Thus both schemes will be the same capacity or am I missing something?
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyWineHands[/bold] wrote: Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.[/p][/quote]There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands.[/p][/quote]Surely it will be H&S people who say how many seats there can be. Thus both schemes will be the same capacity or am I missing something? Joedavid
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Mon 23 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Joedavid wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
AndyWineHands wrote:
Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.
There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands.
Surely it will be H&S people who say how many seats there can be. Thus both schemes will be the same capacity or am I missing something?
From what I could make out of each schemes plans, more auditorium space is being used by Bradford Live, I gather Bradford One is redesigning some of the inside of the Odeon building to include restaurants and bars where as Bradford Live will use all the original auditorium but with a large standing area towards the stage giving it a possible 4,100 capacity.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyWineHands[/bold] wrote: Much prefer Bradford One after going down and looking at the plans and making my own mind up! People over profit, I don't trust Bradford council to make the right decision, they have a history of being short sighted, However i live in hope that they will pick the scheme that puts back into the community. We dont need to compete with Leeds Arena by squeezing in as many seats as possible and gettin' a bad name as an uncomfortable venue, but we CAN and should make it unique so bands want to play there! It is not and never will be an arena, its a venue with integrity, history and I feel only BradfordOne can do it justice. go down and look at the plans yourself, dont rely on any one else's judgement to make up your mind.[/p][/quote]There would be no squeezing of seats into the Odeon Building with the Bradford Live scheme, just more of the building used to get the maximum comfortable capacity needed to attract world class artists and bands.[/p][/quote]Surely it will be H&S people who say how many seats there can be. Thus both schemes will be the same capacity or am I missing something?[/p][/quote]From what I could make out of each schemes plans, more auditorium space is being used by Bradford Live, I gather Bradford One is redesigning some of the inside of the Odeon building to include restaurants and bars where as Bradford Live will use all the original auditorium but with a large standing area towards the stage giving it a possible 4,100 capacity. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

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