Police take action against 40 street drinkers as shops say: It's getting worse

A council warden patrols City Park as part of a crackdown on street drinking

A council warden patrols City Park as part of a crackdown on street drinking

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Police have taken action against dozens of nuisance street drinkers in a crackdown on drunkenness in Bradford city centre.

Officers have made 13 arrests and given 27 people 'directions to leave' in the first two weeks of the operation - but businesses blighted by the problem have called on the authorities to do more.

City centre business bosses said public drinking around City Park and Centenary Square was a massive problem, complaining that trade had slumped because of the activities of drunken nuisances.

Inspector Andy Gallant, in charge of policing the city centre, has pledged to stamp out the growing problem of street drinkers.

He said yesterday: "We are pleased with what has been achieved so far, but it is important to note this is a long-term partnership approach to tackling the issue of street drinking in the city centre and the anti-social behaviour that can sometimes be associated with it.

"This is not only aimed at the street drinkers, but also the licensees and their staff and making sure that they are aware of their responsibilities in the sale of alcohol.

"We will continue to work together to look at different solutions to this problem, while taking robust action against those found to be involved in, or contributing to, further incidents."

Among those sent packing from the city centre this week was a woman known to become a problem after drinking alcohol; a known alcoholic who becomes aggressive and abusive to the public; and another man who goes shoplifting when drunk.

But one city centre trader said business was down by a quarter because of the problem.

Others told of fights breaking out and people urinating outside their premises.

One described it as "a nuisance to all businesses, families and kids wanting to enjoy the mirror pool."

Council leader David Green said it was important to have a carrot and stick approach to the issue.

"It's not only a problem for members of the public who are getting harassed or feeling intimidated by the actions of individuals, there is also a health issue and we need to support those people to get off their addiction and get a healthier lifestyle," Coun Green said.

He added: "It's important that people feel able to come in to Bradford city centre - or any other centres - and feel safe. The police are doing their best and are clearly having some effect in dealing with the immediate problem people are facing."

Deputy Conservative group leader, Councillor Simon Cooke, raised the issue at a full Council meeting last week.

He said yesterday there would be a problem with drunkenness in the city centre while there was nice weather.

"The impression I get is the problem isn't so bad during the day, but becomes worse as you get into the evening. We need to think of it as an anti-social behaviour problem by people who are drunk.

"It's about policing being responsive and getting in there early enough, before people start beating lumps out of each other or bothering girls.

"There is clearly a role for police to make sure things don't get out of hand. It will be a while before the police operation really takes effect.

"It's important that we pick up these people who have serious problems with drink or drugs, and get them into support, otherwise they will be back and we will be doing another campaign to move them on. If we do that we will have got the right balance between protecting the public, making sure they can enjoy City Park, and supporting those people with drink problems."

One of the businesses affected by the problem is The In Plaice fish and chip shop, on the corner of Centenary Square and Sunbridge Road.

Its manager, Andy Wharton, 41, the manager of The In Plaice, said: "Nobody is doing anything about it. Drunk people are sat in doorways."

He described how two drunk people had been fighting outside his business one morning last week. He said the activity had cut his trade by about 25 per cent. He said: "Who wants to bring their family?"

On recent police efforts to curb the drinking, Mr Wharton said: "PCSOs try to make an effort but it's still full of drunks. Nothing has changed in the two weeks. It's as if police just move them on and forget."

A city centre restaurant worker, who did not wish to be named, said one particular group of drunks had become known locally as the 'Fountain Crew' because they always gathered around the water feature in City Park. He described how people often urinated outside the back-door of the restaurant.

Many nearby businesses echoed his comments. A city centre worker said drunks often entered their premises and stayed in all day, and were often sick on the premises. He said they had not seen a lot of police presence and had even seen "PCSOs walking past drunk people."

BUSINESSES ARE AFFECTED BY DRUNKS

BUSINESS bosses dotted around Centenary Square and City Park say their takings are down because the behaviour of street drinkers was putting off customers.

Faiz Khan, 44, of iCreams, on the edge of Centenary Square, said public drinking in the area was a “massive problem” and that many of his customers were women and children who were concerned by such behaviour.

He said the drunk people were “here from 9am to the late hours.”

He described it as a “nuisance to all businesses, families and kids wanting to enjoy the mirror pool.” He said: “It affects everybody. People are wary and get frightened to walk past.

“It wouldn’t be a normal day in the city centre if no-one was arrested.

“It makes me ashamed to be Bradfordian.”

Yasmin Khan, 22, an employee of Premier Newsagents, said the business was “losing out on profits” but said the shop “didn’t serve people who drink a lot” or appear to be drunk. She said: “We don’t know who it is that’s causing it. We see police often. Police were supposed to be helping businesses.”

She said the shop did get the “odd drunk person” coming.

“Sometimes I think the police aren’t doing anything,” she added.

Dawood Takolia, of Umer’s Fast Food, said that drunk people sat outside the shop, which caused confrontation.

He said that he did not want to be seen arguing outside of the shop as it affected customers. “As soon as police are gone they come back again.

“Police should give them a verbal warning to get them scared,” he added.

Nishant Sharma, 39, of the Chinese Buffet in Centenary Square, said the drinking definitely affected his business and £300-£500 could be lost because of it as “families try to get away and tend to stay away.”

He said: “Police are quite helpful but can’t kick them out and the council needs to do something.”

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6:51am Mon 28 Jul 14

Albion. says...

Is this what they meant by a promised increase in footfall and business?
Surprised Green had time to make his wishy-washy comments after joining forces with Galloway in a grasping at straws attempt to keep his votes (and fly his new flag).
Is this what they meant by a promised increase in footfall and business? Surprised Green had time to make his wishy-washy comments after joining forces with Galloway in a grasping at straws attempt to keep his votes (and fly his new flag). Albion.
  • Score: 53

7:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

BD16 says...

No Green. Forget the carrot and stick and go straight for the stick. No drinking in the city centre, unless it's in licensed premises, or outdoors in a beer garden etc.
No Green. Forget the carrot and stick and go straight for the stick. No drinking in the city centre, unless it's in licensed premises, or outdoors in a beer garden etc. BD16
  • Score: 79

8:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

mad matt says...

It's not just in the city centre though, I've seen drunks staggering round, swigging from cans of strong lager at 6 in the morning in Manningham. It must be happening in other areas as well.
It's not just in the city centre though, I've seen drunks staggering round, swigging from cans of strong lager at 6 in the morning in Manningham. It must be happening in other areas as well. mad matt
  • Score: 45

8:42am Mon 28 Jul 14

BCFC1911 says...

If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism. BCFC1911
  • Score: 84

8:50am Mon 28 Jul 14

collos25 says...

So after years of complaints the authorities might do something maybe I would not hold your breath.
So after years of complaints the authorities might do something maybe I would not hold your breath. collos25
  • Score: 22

9:20am Mon 28 Jul 14

KINGPIN100 says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order! KINGPIN100
  • Score: 53

9:20am Mon 28 Jul 14

KINGPIN100 says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order! KINGPIN100
  • Score: 9

9:23am Mon 28 Jul 14

BCFC1911 says...

KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
[quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting BCFC1911
  • Score: 55

9:33am Mon 28 Jul 14

sorrow&anger says...

“The police are doing their best”. Well Cllr. Green, it isn’t good enough. Your City Park was supposed to be the jewel in the revitalised city’s crown. Now it’s just a haven for drunks and sex pests. Proving once again that this city is beyond redemption. It devalues and destroys anything that comes near it.
“The police are doing their best”. Well Cllr. Green, it isn’t good enough. Your City Park was supposed to be the jewel in the revitalised city’s crown. Now it’s just a haven for drunks and sex pests. Proving once again that this city is beyond redemption. It devalues and destroys anything that comes near it. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 58

9:40am Mon 28 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

mad matt wrote:
It's not just in the city centre though, I've seen drunks staggering round, swigging from cans of strong lager at 6 in the morning in Manningham. It must be happening in other areas as well.
They'll be heading to the city Centre to meet up with their drinking buddies!
[quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: It's not just in the city centre though, I've seen drunks staggering round, swigging from cans of strong lager at 6 in the morning in Manningham. It must be happening in other areas as well.[/p][/quote]They'll be heading to the city Centre to meet up with their drinking buddies! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 26

9:40am Mon 28 Jul 14

KINGPIN100 says...

Well im not against Israel defending its people from constant rocket attacks, the problem here is the Hamas cowards firing them from schools and such. Theres conflicts all over the world are we going to fly everyones flag! Good luck writing to city hall lol.
Well im not against Israel defending its people from constant rocket attacks, the problem here is the Hamas cowards firing them from schools and such. Theres conflicts all over the world are we going to fly everyones flag! Good luck writing to city hall lol. KINGPIN100
  • Score: 17

9:41am Mon 28 Jul 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 24

9:51am Mon 28 Jul 14

bachtothefuture says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 23

10:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

ChanningCross says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.
That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.[/p][/quote]That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for. ChanningCross
  • Score: -55

10:22am Mon 28 Jul 14

bingleybantam says...

ChanningCross wrote:
bachtothefuture wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.
That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.
Keep drinking the Special Brew my friend. Comrade Dave is the usual Labourite, looking after no.1 by making sure he gets the vote in the 3rd world politics that now control Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]ChanningCross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.[/p][/quote]That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.[/p][/quote]Keep drinking the Special Brew my friend. Comrade Dave is the usual Labourite, looking after no.1 by making sure he gets the vote in the 3rd world politics that now control Bradford. bingleybantam
  • Score: 41

10:27am Mon 28 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

It's quite easy to count 40-plus street drinkers on a half hour, lunchtime stroll, round the city Centre!

I can't think of any other city I've been to where they are so blatant.

I suspect a run down city centre, with an over saturation of betting shops and a lack of decent retail outlets just attracts this problem.
It's quite easy to count 40-plus street drinkers on a half hour, lunchtime stroll, round the city Centre! I can't think of any other city I've been to where they are so blatant. I suspect a run down city centre, with an over saturation of betting shops and a lack of decent retail outlets just attracts this problem. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 41

11:03am Mon 28 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon.
shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda!
key word= NEUTRAL!!
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon. shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda! key word= NEUTRAL!! tinytoonster
  • Score: 21

11:21am Mon 28 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 30

11:23am Mon 28 Jul 14

cornishtyke says...

On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked.

Welcome to Bradford I don’t think
On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked. Welcome to Bradford I don’t think cornishtyke
  • Score: 47

11:31am Mon 28 Jul 14

BCFC1911 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon.
shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda!
key word= NEUTRAL!!
Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak.

I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on.

Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon. shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda! key word= NEUTRAL!![/p][/quote]Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak. I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on. Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future BCFC1911
  • Score: 27

11:33am Mon 28 Jul 14

whisky1 says...

Yes its a "civilised" experience wandering around the City Centre at lunchtime ...winos and gaggles of East European migrants sorting their Housing Benefit at Britannia House and their JSA at Vicar Lane. Generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves
Yes its a "civilised" experience wandering around the City Centre at lunchtime ...winos and gaggles of East European migrants sorting their Housing Benefit at Britannia House and their JSA at Vicar Lane. Generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves whisky1
  • Score: 38

11:36am Mon 28 Jul 14

magicbradford says...

Last Monday Lister Park 11am 6 people White Ace party on the bench near children play area all drunk shouting, swearing abusing other people ...
Last Monday Lister Park 11am 6 people White Ace party on the bench near children play area all drunk shouting, swearing abusing other people ... magicbradford
  • Score: 19

11:41am Mon 28 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

So the council develop Centenary Square and City Park which has resulted in an increase in anti-social drinking .... sounds like a worthwhile investment socially .........NOT!
So the council develop Centenary Square and City Park which has resulted in an increase in anti-social drinking .... sounds like a worthwhile investment socially .........NOT! MarkPullen
  • Score: 39

11:50am Mon 28 Jul 14

Rambo says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon.
shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda!
key word= NEUTRAL!!
Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak.

I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on.

Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future
At risk of going off topic, I'm putting this here as the other stories won't allow comments.

With regards to the GG and the Islamic bank story, this is one of his quotes -

"Respect MP Mr Galloway said: "I will be contacting HSBC and asking them to reinstate the Ummah accounts and to demand to know the reasons why they want to terminate them. I'll bet this doesn't happen to any Jewish or Israeli charities. "

Why the direct reference to Jews and Israel in this context? Maybe the papers might find the nature of these comments coming from a local councillor (who seemingly shows little interest or concern in non-local issues) interesting.
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon. shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda! key word= NEUTRAL!![/p][/quote]Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak. I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on. Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future[/p][/quote]At risk of going off topic, I'm putting this here as the other stories won't allow comments. With regards to the GG and the Islamic bank story, this is one of his quotes - "Respect MP Mr Galloway said: "I will be contacting HSBC and asking them to reinstate the Ummah accounts and to demand to know the reasons why they want to terminate them. I'll bet this doesn't happen to any Jewish or Israeli charities. " Why the direct reference to Jews and Israel in this context? Maybe the papers might find the nature of these comments coming from a local councillor (who seemingly shows little interest or concern in non-local issues) interesting. Rambo
  • Score: 32

11:57am Mon 28 Jul 14

Albion. says...

Agree. He isn't a councillor though.
Agree. He isn't a councillor though. Albion.
  • Score: 14

11:59am Mon 28 Jul 14

Rambo says...

Rambo wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon.
shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda!
key word= NEUTRAL!!
Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak.

I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on.

Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future
At risk of going off topic, I'm putting this here as the other stories won't allow comments.

With regards to the GG and the Islamic bank story, this is one of his quotes -

"Respect MP Mr Galloway said: "I will be contacting HSBC and asking them to reinstate the Ummah accounts and to demand to know the reasons why they want to terminate them. I'll bet this doesn't happen to any Jewish or Israeli charities. "

Why the direct reference to Jews and Israel in this context? Maybe the papers might find the nature of these comments coming from a local councillor (who seemingly shows little interest or concern in non-local issues) interesting.
Correction -
(who seemingly shows little interest or concern in local issues)
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]wasting your time, green jumping on the galloway bandwagon. shame galloway only appears when its a religious agenda! key word= NEUTRAL!![/p][/quote]Well I have spoke to a journalist from the Daily Mail who referred to this very site and seemed extremely interested in running a piece once can get quotes from Councillors. They are contacting them as we speak. I never thought I would see the day when the bleeding Daily Mail of all papers would want to take this on. Awaiting a call back from a Sun reporter as well so hopefully with the papers sniffing around they might think twice in future[/p][/quote]At risk of going off topic, I'm putting this here as the other stories won't allow comments. With regards to the GG and the Islamic bank story, this is one of his quotes - "Respect MP Mr Galloway said: "I will be contacting HSBC and asking them to reinstate the Ummah accounts and to demand to know the reasons why they want to terminate them. I'll bet this doesn't happen to any Jewish or Israeli charities. " Why the direct reference to Jews and Israel in this context? Maybe the papers might find the nature of these comments coming from a local councillor (who seemingly shows little interest or concern in non-local issues) interesting.[/p][/quote]Correction - (who seemingly shows little interest or concern in local issues) Rambo
  • Score: 12

12:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Rambo says...

Albion. wrote:
Agree. He isn't a councillor though.
Sorry, yes, should be MP.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: Agree. He isn't a councillor though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, yes, should be MP. Rambo
  • Score: 7

12:17pm Mon 28 Jul 14

baildongreen says...

ChanningCross wrote:
bachtothefuture wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.
That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.
Total rubbish. In particular Buck Lane after years of effort and millions of pounds is set to deliver only a handful of low-tech jobs. A total disappointment. Just like City Park.

And since she is charge of tourism what is Cllr. Hinchcliffe doing about cleaning up City Park? It is one of the few supposed tourist attractions we have left. If it becomes a no-go area how will families get to the Media Museum and the Alhambra?
[quote][p][bold]ChanningCross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.[/p][/quote]That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.[/p][/quote]Total rubbish. In particular Buck Lane after years of effort and millions of pounds is set to deliver only a handful of low-tech jobs. A total disappointment. Just like City Park. And since she is charge of tourism what is Cllr. Hinchcliffe doing about cleaning up City Park? It is one of the few supposed tourist attractions we have left. If it becomes a no-go area how will families get to the Media Museum and the Alhambra? baildongreen
  • Score: 18

12:25pm Mon 28 Jul 14

999 number of the beast says...

...And this is why I always slam the police and the useless PCSOs who according to the article. ' He said they had not seen a lot of police presence and had even seen "PCSOs walking past drunk people." '
Its time these Dad's Army of the police were scrapped and the rest of the forces merged followed by privatisation.
...And this is why I always slam the police and the useless PCSOs who according to the article. ' He said they had not seen a lot of police presence and had even seen "PCSOs walking past drunk people." ' Its time these Dad's Army of the police were scrapped and the rest of the forces merged followed by privatisation. 999 number of the beast
  • Score: 10

12:31pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Mixter says...

Twinning with Gaza may not be such a bad idea for Bradford. Lets face it, having such a forward-thinking, dynamic, aspiring 'twin' may give the City some inspiration and at least raise itself to Gaza's level of social standing.
It'd certainly get rid of the drunks!
Twinning with Gaza may not be such a bad idea for Bradford. Lets face it, having such a forward-thinking, dynamic, aspiring 'twin' may give the City some inspiration and at least raise itself to Gaza's level of social standing. It'd certainly get rid of the drunks! Mixter
  • Score: 11

12:40pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Grumpygirl says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
Don’t agree. It's time that the international community realised that there are moral dimensions to these conflicts and that there are good guys (however sullied) and bad guys. It’s about time we had the courage to take sides in conflicts like this.

Hamas is launching unguided rockets as terror weapons at Israeli civilians. It is also beyond doubt that Hamas deploys ordinary Palestinians as human shields using private dwellings, schools and hospitals as bases for military operations.

During the last war the Nazis launched the unguided V1 and V2 rockets at us and surrounded their manufacturing base at Peenemünde with concentration camps used partly as human shields. Does anybody think we were wrong to defend ourselves against the V1 and V2s killing many of the (Polish) inmates of the camps at the same time?

The same logic applies to Israel; Hamas, like the Nazis before them, are the bad guys. We need to support Israel against the totalitarian aggression created by the unhealthy Islamic desire for Lebensraum.
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]Don’t agree. It's time that the international community realised that there are moral dimensions to these conflicts and that there are good guys (however sullied) and bad guys. It’s about time we had the courage to take sides in conflicts like this. Hamas is launching unguided rockets as terror weapons at Israeli civilians. It is also beyond doubt that Hamas deploys ordinary Palestinians as human shields using private dwellings, schools and hospitals as bases for military operations. During the last war the Nazis launched the unguided V1 and V2 rockets at us and surrounded their manufacturing base at Peenemünde with concentration camps used partly as human shields. Does anybody think we were wrong to defend ourselves against the V1 and V2s killing many of the (Polish) inmates of the camps at the same time? The same logic applies to Israel; Hamas, like the Nazis before them, are the bad guys. We need to support Israel against the totalitarian aggression created by the unhealthy Islamic desire for Lebensraum. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 18

12:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BD16 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A. BD16
  • Score: 18

12:48pm Mon 28 Jul 14

hortonite says...

at the start of this so called blitz, a colleague witnessed the police dealing with a group of youths causing a nuisance. After a great deal of pleading from the police, (which included several attempts at befriending the miscreants) the group were persuaded to move five yards, During the epic journey of five yards one of the group threw rubbish on the floor, which obviously was ignored by the four police. my colleague asked the police if it is an offence to litter, only to be ignored, it took several attempts before one of the police admitted it is an offence but it is not the responsibility of the police to deal with littering it is "the councils" responsibility. So there we are then a result for law and order and a failure for the council.
at the start of this so called blitz, a colleague witnessed the police dealing with a group of youths causing a nuisance. After a great deal of pleading from the police, (which included several attempts at befriending the miscreants) the group were persuaded to move five yards, During the epic journey of five yards one of the group threw rubbish on the floor, which obviously was ignored by the four police. my colleague asked the police if it is an offence to litter, only to be ignored, it took several attempts before one of the police admitted it is an offence but it is not the responsibility of the police to deal with littering it is "the councils" responsibility. So there we are then a result for law and order and a failure for the council. hortonite
  • Score: 30

12:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

hx3bantam says...

I'm not sure the drinkers in Centenary Square know nor care about Israel. As the thread appears to have gone West I wonder if City will do anything this season with their new style of play. We could do with another goalkeeper before the season starts too.
Well done to the Bulls after yesterdays result.
I'm not sure the drinkers in Centenary Square know nor care about Israel. As the thread appears to have gone West I wonder if City will do anything this season with their new style of play. We could do with another goalkeeper before the season starts too. Well done to the Bulls after yesterdays result. hx3bantam
  • Score: 5

12:53pm Mon 28 Jul 14

eccythump says...

cornishtyke wrote:
On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked.

Welcome to Bradford I don’t think
I'd rather give money to a happy drunk, than to a hate monger, collecting for Hamas.
[quote][p][bold]cornishtyke[/bold] wrote: On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked. Welcome to Bradford I don’t think[/p][/quote]I'd rather give money to a happy drunk, than to a hate monger, collecting for Hamas. eccythump
  • Score: 32

1:00pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BCFC1911 says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
KINGPIN100 wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking

Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.
Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order!
Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side.

This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today.

Disgusting
Don’t agree. It's time that the international community realised that there are moral dimensions to these conflicts and that there are good guys (however sullied) and bad guys. It’s about time we had the courage to take sides in conflicts like this.

Hamas is launching unguided rockets as terror weapons at Israeli civilians. It is also beyond doubt that Hamas deploys ordinary Palestinians as human shields using private dwellings, schools and hospitals as bases for military operations.

During the last war the Nazis launched the unguided V1 and V2 rockets at us and surrounded their manufacturing base at Peenemünde with concentration camps used partly as human shields. Does anybody think we were wrong to defend ourselves against the V1 and V2s killing many of the (Polish) inmates of the camps at the same time?

The same logic applies to Israel; Hamas, like the Nazis before them, are the bad guys. We need to support Israel against the totalitarian aggression created by the unhealthy Islamic desire for Lebensraum.
Look love I just want them apologise for flying a foreign government's flag just because a large section of Bradford's community happen to be Muslim.

I'll take what else you said as read and don't want to get into some discussion about who's right and wrong as to be honest its none of my business. What happens in THIS country is however
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: If that idiot Galloway is left to carry on with his vile rants then the city centre will soon be ruled by Sharia Law therefore we wont have a problem with street drinking Flying the Palestinian flag over city hall. Absolutely disgusting act of racism.[/p][/quote]Well said BCFC1911, it is pathetic flying a Palestinian flag. Bang out of order![/p][/quote]Dont get me wrong I'm totally against Israel and the actions they are taking but this is England and we should not be siding with either side. This is basically anti-semitism and I shall be contacting various newspapers and writing to city hall today. Disgusting[/p][/quote]Don’t agree. It's time that the international community realised that there are moral dimensions to these conflicts and that there are good guys (however sullied) and bad guys. It’s about time we had the courage to take sides in conflicts like this. Hamas is launching unguided rockets as terror weapons at Israeli civilians. It is also beyond doubt that Hamas deploys ordinary Palestinians as human shields using private dwellings, schools and hospitals as bases for military operations. During the last war the Nazis launched the unguided V1 and V2 rockets at us and surrounded their manufacturing base at Peenemünde with concentration camps used partly as human shields. Does anybody think we were wrong to defend ourselves against the V1 and V2s killing many of the (Polish) inmates of the camps at the same time? The same logic applies to Israel; Hamas, like the Nazis before them, are the bad guys. We need to support Israel against the totalitarian aggression created by the unhealthy Islamic desire for Lebensraum.[/p][/quote]Look love I just want them apologise for flying a foreign government's flag just because a large section of Bradford's community happen to be Muslim. I'll take what else you said as read and don't want to get into some discussion about who's right and wrong as to be honest its none of my business. What happens in THIS country is however BCFC1911
  • Score: 30

1:03pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Pablo says...

whisky1 wrote:
Yes its a "civilised" experience wandering around the City Centre at lunchtime ...winos and gaggles of East European migrants sorting their Housing Benefit at Britannia House and their JSA at Vicar Lane. Generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves
Don't you mean "hordes" of East Europeans?

The centre of Bradford resembles Gaza anyway.

As you say, generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves. It's worse than grim.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Yes its a "civilised" experience wandering around the City Centre at lunchtime ...winos and gaggles of East European migrants sorting their Housing Benefit at Britannia House and their JSA at Vicar Lane. Generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves[/p][/quote]Don't you mean "hordes" of East Europeans? The centre of Bradford resembles Gaza anyway. As you say, generations of solid Bradfordians will be spinning in their graves. It's worse than grim. Pablo
  • Score: 30

1:05pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

BD16 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc.

Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores.

Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on.

This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone.

The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.[/p][/quote]Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc. Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores. Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on. This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone. The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 30

1:10pm Mon 28 Jul 14

tyker2 says...

Simple: a bye law can be created where no drinking on the street is allows anywhere with the metropolitan area. Any wrong doing and an £100 fine is levied
Simple: a bye law can be created where no drinking on the street is allows anywhere with the metropolitan area. Any wrong doing and an £100 fine is levied tyker2
  • Score: 16

1:15pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc.

Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores.

Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on.

This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone.

The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.
Sounds like a familiar story. We don't agree with it so it should be banned. If that doesn't work we'll try threats and intimidation. Morons like this make me want to buy Israeli products just to spite them.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.[/p][/quote]Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc. Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores. Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on. This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone. The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.[/p][/quote]Sounds like a familiar story. We don't agree with it so it should be banned. If that doesn't work we'll try threats and intimidation. Morons like this make me want to buy Israeli products just to spite them. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 25

1:18pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Off subject too but.....Surely this can't be legal stood in the middle of the road collecting for Gaza.
One oik was stood by the pelican lights to slow down the traffic by pressing the button.
This was just by Mumtaz.

For once l agree with Grumpy Girl.

And twinned with Gaza, now Gorjo really is having a laugh.
Off subject too but.....Surely this can't be legal stood in the middle of the road collecting for Gaza. One oik was stood by the pelican lights to slow down the traffic by pressing the button. This was just by Mumtaz. For once l agree with Grumpy Girl. And twinned with Gaza, now Gorjo really is having a laugh. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 21

1:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Oldwestbowling says...

Whilst in Centenary Square last Friday, my harassment did not come from drinkers or Palestinian supporters but from 5 well dressed kids of about 14 years old who were chucking water from a bottle at passers by......only at middle aged women, mind, not at young men. When confronted they were an arrogant bunch of precious little darlings. I would love to have seen them slung in the pond.
Whilst in Centenary Square last Friday, my harassment did not come from drinkers or Palestinian supporters but from 5 well dressed kids of about 14 years old who were chucking water from a bottle at passers by......only at middle aged women, mind, not at young men. When confronted they were an arrogant bunch of precious little darlings. I would love to have seen them slung in the pond. Oldwestbowling
  • Score: 15

2:16pm Mon 28 Jul 14

cornishtyke says...

eccythump wrote:
cornishtyke wrote: On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked. Welcome to Bradford I don’t think
I'd rather give money to a happy drunk, than to a hate monger, collecting for Hamas.
Couldnt agree more, also failed to mention the return journey where White Abbey road was virtually blocked by "collectors" standing in thr rattling buckets
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cornishtyke[/bold] wrote: On Saturday lunchtime, I had the “pleasure” of being in the city centre. Around John Street/Rawson Market were two people, both as drunk as (the house of) lords who asked for any spare change, I replied that I had none which resulted in the response “No problem |squire have a good day”, at the Junction of Darley Street & Kirkgate (near Superdrug) I was asked by a group of people to donate to Palestine, again I said sorry no change to be greeted by “well you’re a F*****g racist then” & was verbally abused by groups of youths as I walked. Welcome to Bradford I don’t think[/p][/quote]I'd rather give money to a happy drunk, than to a hate monger, collecting for Hamas.[/p][/quote]Couldnt agree more, also failed to mention the return journey where White Abbey road was virtually blocked by "collectors" standing in thr rattling buckets cornishtyke
  • Score: 22

2:18pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BierleyBoy says...

baildongreen wrote:
ChanningCross wrote:
bachtothefuture wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too.
I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.
I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.
That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.
Total rubbish. In particular Buck Lane after years of effort and millions of pounds is set to deliver only a handful of low-tech jobs. A total disappointment. Just like City Park.

And since she is charge of tourism what is Cllr. Hinchcliffe doing about cleaning up City Park? It is one of the few supposed tourist attractions we have left. If it becomes a no-go area how will families get to the Media Museum and the Alhambra?
Green's hero worshipper forgets to mention that ALL the few things going on in Bradford are entirely reliant on central government funding. Over use of it simply makes Bradford more reliant on the state & less attractive to inward investment.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChanningCross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I've been banging on about the street drunks for years and they affected my business too. I still think they should be more tough on them though "getting help" won't work. They'll laugh that one off.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unpleasant and excessive drunkenness goes hand in hand with poverty. If Cllr Green wants a City Park to be proud of he should forget his silly 'Producer City' scheme and get on with regenerating the city. Prosperity solves a lot of problems.[/p][/quote]That is not true. Councillor Green is a hard working man totally dedicated to regenerating Bradford. His wonderful Producer City idea is already bearing fruit; we have the new brewery, the University's Enterprise Zone and Councillor Hinchcliffe's Buck Lane project which is set to bring hundreds and hundreds of new hi tech jobs to the city. Time will show that Councillor Green is the visionary that Bradford has been looking for.[/p][/quote]Total rubbish. In particular Buck Lane after years of effort and millions of pounds is set to deliver only a handful of low-tech jobs. A total disappointment. Just like City Park. And since she is charge of tourism what is Cllr. Hinchcliffe doing about cleaning up City Park? It is one of the few supposed tourist attractions we have left. If it becomes a no-go area how will families get to the Media Museum and the Alhambra?[/p][/quote]Green's hero worshipper forgets to mention that ALL the few things going on in Bradford are entirely reliant on central government funding. Over use of it simply makes Bradford more reliant on the state & less attractive to inward investment. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 14

3:17pm Mon 28 Jul 14

cheeky1 says...

What about the traveler's on Wibsey Park, how long will they be staying there? Right in the middle of the playing field!
What about the traveler's on Wibsey Park, how long will they be staying there? Right in the middle of the playing field! cheeky1
  • Score: 8

4:02pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whisky1 says...

Three hammered Eastern Europeans this lunchtime in the Square ..tinnies not so covertly hidden in plastic bags...but to be fair the dole office and Britannia House are handy for them if they sup there.
Three hammered Eastern Europeans this lunchtime in the Square ..tinnies not so covertly hidden in plastic bags...but to be fair the dole office and Britannia House are handy for them if they sup there. whisky1
  • Score: 19

5:22pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Class_War says...

"The reputation of the City must be protected" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
"The reputation of the City must be protected" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Class_War
  • Score: 17

5:22pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Tyke69 says...

I attended a schools music event in City Park last month, we were there with children at 9am and there were drunks sitting on the walls near Wetherspoons and wandering around the park even at that time in the morning. There were various council wardens, PCSO's etc in attendance and none of them moved the drunks on. One of them did stop for a chat but they seemed to be having a laugh rather than trying to get them to leave. It was the first time we'd been to Bradford for a while, we're not in a hurry to go back.
I attended a schools music event in City Park last month, we were there with children at 9am and there were drunks sitting on the walls near Wetherspoons and wandering around the park even at that time in the morning. There were various council wardens, PCSO's etc in attendance and none of them moved the drunks on. One of them did stop for a chat but they seemed to be having a laugh rather than trying to get them to leave. It was the first time we'd been to Bradford for a while, we're not in a hurry to go back. Tyke69
  • Score: 27

8:26pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

Stop the alcoholic wasters benefits.

No Money, No Drinkies.
Stop the alcoholic wasters benefits. No Money, No Drinkies. Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 14

8:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

son123 says...

How many pubs plus cheap alcoholic stores are around centenary square. Kids playing in the water feature whilst parents sat drinking watching. Think its discusting. And yes I do practice what I preach, if I have my kids I don't drink at all. And even when im bless with a night away from my children 9 times outta 10 I dont drink either. I dont like what alcohol makes people become. The coop where I live from 7am theres a certain group from the area queuing for there vodka and they sit outside the store downing it. Its discusting!
How many pubs plus cheap alcoholic stores are around centenary square. Kids playing in the water feature whilst parents sat drinking watching. Think its discusting. And yes I do practice what I preach, if I have my kids I don't drink at all. And even when im bless with a night away from my children 9 times outta 10 I dont drink either. I dont like what alcohol makes people become. The coop where I live from 7am theres a certain group from the area queuing for there vodka and they sit outside the store downing it. Its discusting! son123
  • Score: 11

9:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

The_light says...

The mirror pool, truly a watering hole then.
The mirror pool, truly a watering hole then. The_light
  • Score: 10

9:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

KINGPIN100 says...

Yasmin Khan is serving the beverages
Yasmin Khan is serving the beverages KINGPIN100
  • Score: 4

9:41pm Mon 28 Jul 14

flogem says...

Perhaps cllr Green thinks he's twinning with Gazzer the ex footballer.
Perhaps cllr Green thinks he's twinning with Gazzer the ex footballer. flogem
  • Score: 10

9:56pm Mon 28 Jul 14

dex556 says...

It is time we were able to dictate what these long term out of work people spent their benefits, as long as they are receiving enough to spend money on the wrong things such as drugs, cigarettes and/or alcohol while their rent arrears mount up because the money is now paid direct to the claimants rather than the landlords, if these people aren't capable of being responsible with their money then it should not be given to them in a form where they can spend it unnecessarily, especially if they have young families who are going without food or clothes to pay for their addictions, these people need to be supported to get out of the downward spiral they seem to be in.
It is time we were able to dictate what these long term out of work people spent their benefits, as long as they are receiving enough to spend money on the wrong things such as drugs, cigarettes and/or alcohol while their rent arrears mount up because the money is now paid direct to the claimants rather than the landlords, if these people aren't capable of being responsible with their money then it should not be given to them in a form where they can spend it unnecessarily, especially if they have young families who are going without food or clothes to pay for their addictions, these people need to be supported to get out of the downward spiral they seem to be in. dex556
  • Score: 13

10:03pm Mon 28 Jul 14

theoutsider says...

Personally if all the illegals; drunks and druggies want to congregate outside Chuff Hall then I'm happy with that. As long as they don't come round our way; then great stuff. Greenie; don't say I didn't warn you abart the Watter Park turning into the equivalent of ground level sewer!. Fancy chucking £30million of tax payer money into a pond feature for low lifes you really could not make it up. Unless of course you live in the Land of David Green.
Personally if all the illegals; drunks and druggies want to congregate outside Chuff Hall then I'm happy with that. As long as they don't come round our way; then great stuff. Greenie; don't say I didn't warn you abart the Watter Park turning into the equivalent of ground level sewer!. Fancy chucking £30million of tax payer money into a pond feature for low lifes you really could not make it up. Unless of course you live in the Land of David Green. theoutsider
  • Score: 17

10:14pm Mon 28 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

theoutsider wrote:
Personally if all the illegals; drunks and druggies want to congregate outside Chuff Hall then I'm happy with that. As long as they don't come round our way; then great stuff. Greenie; don't say I didn't warn you abart the Watter Park turning into the equivalent of ground level sewer!. Fancy chucking £30million of tax payer money into a pond feature for low lifes you really could not make it up. Unless of course you live in the Land of David Green.
agreed!
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: Personally if all the illegals; drunks and druggies want to congregate outside Chuff Hall then I'm happy with that. As long as they don't come round our way; then great stuff. Greenie; don't say I didn't warn you abart the Watter Park turning into the equivalent of ground level sewer!. Fancy chucking £30million of tax payer money into a pond feature for low lifes you really could not make it up. Unless of course you live in the Land of David Green.[/p][/quote]agreed! tinytoonster
  • Score: 11

11:46pm Mon 28 Jul 14

wingerman11 says...

The Council stooge aka BCFC1903 and his sidekick, or more likely, his secondary account, JAtkinson, are very quiet on this topic.
I thought he would have been along by now to tell us that all the businesses, traders and police were lying about this, and that the City Park was such a wonderful, safe, heavenly place to visit!
The Council stooge aka BCFC1903 and his sidekick, or more likely, his secondary account, JAtkinson, are very quiet on this topic. I thought he would have been along by now to tell us that all the businesses, traders and police were lying about this, and that the City Park was such a wonderful, safe, heavenly place to visit! wingerman11
  • Score: 11

11:56pm Mon 28 Jul 14

wikidee2012 says...

so it appears that the T & A is also racist ! as it will not allow comments on what is clearly a very provocative subject!
"What is going on here " Why does nobody speak up !
Who on earth made the decision to fly a foreign countries flag over city hall? Are we to believe that some dignitary was visiting from Palestine or are we really to believe that some idiot voluntarily allowed this flag to be put up.

What happened to the feelings of the jewish community?
Why have we not put a Syrian flag over city hall?
whichever numb nut decided it would be a good idea to put this flag up has now opened pandora's box and is not going to be able to shut it.
Yes it is true we have a lot of Muslims in Bradford at one time we also had a lot of italians , which is where Wapping Road took its name but I don't see a Italian flag over city hall.

When we start putting flags up and taking sides in conflicts .Trouble will not be far behind.

Forgotten it seems are the Bradford Riots - It seems nothing has been learned from that experience and once again idiots who are just looking for a excuse and i mean any excuse will rise up and cause trouble and City Hall it seems is adding fuel to that particular fire !
so it appears that the T & A is also racist ! as it will not allow comments on what is clearly a very provocative subject! "What is going on here " Why does nobody speak up ! Who on earth made the decision to fly a foreign countries flag over city hall? Are we to believe that some dignitary was visiting from Palestine or are we really to believe that some idiot voluntarily allowed this flag to be put up. What happened to the feelings of the jewish community? Why have we not put a Syrian flag over city hall? whichever numb nut decided it would be a good idea to put this flag up has now opened pandora's box and is not going to be able to shut it. Yes it is true we have a lot of Muslims in Bradford at one time we also had a lot of italians , which is where Wapping Road took its name but I don't see a Italian flag over city hall. When we start putting flags up and taking sides in conflicts .Trouble will not be far behind. Forgotten it seems are the Bradford Riots - It seems nothing has been learned from that experience and once again idiots who are just looking for a excuse and i mean any excuse will rise up and cause trouble and City Hall it seems is adding fuel to that particular fire ! wikidee2012
  • Score: 20

2:54am Tue 29 Jul 14

Class_War says...

Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****:


http://www.thetelegr
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Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11370950.Shipley_ MP__sick_to_the_back _teeth____of_EU_migr ants__benefit_claims _for_children_outsid e_of_UK/ Class_War
  • Score: -12

8:07am Tue 29 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Class_War wrote:
Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****:


http://www.thetelegr

aphandargus.co.uk/ne

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Yeah what a tw@t he is for not wanting taxpayers money to spent on children who don't live in this country.
How horrible.
[quote][p][bold]Class_War[/bold] wrote: Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11370950.Shipley_ MP__sick_to_the_back _teeth____of_EU_migr ants__benefit_claims _for_children_outsid e_of_UK/[/p][/quote]Yeah what a tw@t he is for not wanting taxpayers money to spent on children who don't live in this country. How horrible. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 14

8:37am Tue 29 Jul 14

whisky1 says...

Class War...the user name says it all...move over wolfie smith/rick the peoples poet theres another infantile fantasist to take your place. At least Davies was any ordinary working man rather than a career politician. Which class are you "fighting" for and against?
Class War...the user name says it all...move over wolfie smith/rick the peoples poet theres another infantile fantasist to take your place. At least Davies was any ordinary working man rather than a career politician. Which class are you "fighting" for and against? whisky1
  • Score: 9

9:45am Tue 29 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Class_War wrote:
Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****:


http://www.thetelegr

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there's plenty of impoverished UK children who could do with this money, rather than giving it to migrants who are just working the system to get free money.

I'd stop all benefits for all migrants
[quote][p][bold]Class_War[/bold] wrote: Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11370950.Shipley_ MP__sick_to_the_back _teeth____of_EU_migr ants__benefit_claims _for_children_outsid e_of_UK/[/p][/quote]there's plenty of impoverished UK children who could do with this money, rather than giving it to migrants who are just working the system to get free money. I'd stop all benefits for all migrants Bone_idle18
  • Score: 19

1:14pm Tue 29 Jul 14

eccythump says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc.

Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores.

Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on.

This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone.

The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.
Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right.
Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though !
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.[/p][/quote]Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc. Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores. Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on. This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone. The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.[/p][/quote]Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right. Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though ! eccythump
  • Score: 16

1:25pm Tue 29 Jul 14

eccythump says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Class_War wrote:
Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****:


http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ne


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there's plenty of impoverished UK children who could do with this money, rather than giving it to migrants who are just working the system to get free money.

I'd stop all benefits for all migrants
Completely agree. Many of the Eastern Europeans who actually bother to work here, rather than just claiming benefits and doing nothing, work the system to minimise their tax contributions to virtually nothing, if not less than that. They claim for kids at full British rate, not the rate of benefits they would get at home, even though the kids are being raised in their home country. I have been told that they make sure that they go home for at least one month of the year, this enables them to claim back the tax they have paid here. This seemed unbelievable to me, but then, much of what goes on, beggars belief. So it doesn't surprise me.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Class_War[/bold] wrote: Philip Davies is a nasty piece of work, what a mean ****: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11370950.Shipley_ MP__sick_to_the_back _teeth____of_EU_migr ants__benefit_claims _for_children_outsid e_of_UK/[/p][/quote]there's plenty of impoverished UK children who could do with this money, rather than giving it to migrants who are just working the system to get free money. I'd stop all benefits for all migrants[/p][/quote]Completely agree. Many of the Eastern Europeans who actually bother to work here, rather than just claiming benefits and doing nothing, work the system to minimise their tax contributions to virtually nothing, if not less than that. They claim for kids at full British rate, not the rate of benefits they would get at home, even though the kids are being raised in their home country. I have been told that they make sure that they go home for at least one month of the year, this enables them to claim back the tax they have paid here. This seemed unbelievable to me, but then, much of what goes on, beggars belief. So it doesn't surprise me. eccythump
  • Score: 14

2:07pm Tue 29 Jul 14

idf fanclub says...

Re: the Umma Gumma charity complaining about it's shutdown bank account.

What the T&A doesn't say (what a surprise) - or Gallybags doesn't say (even bigger surprise) is that Umma has documented links to Islamist terrorist organisations - and other banks have also shut them down.

Ain't Barfdord (twinned with Gaza - and Barfdord Kouncil twinned with Hamas) a wunnerful place? Gets better every day in every way.
Re: the Umma Gumma charity complaining about it's shutdown bank account. What the T&A doesn't say (what a surprise) - or Gallybags doesn't say (even bigger surprise) is that Umma has documented links to Islamist terrorist organisations - and other banks have also shut them down. Ain't Barfdord (twinned with Gaza - and Barfdord Kouncil twinned with Hamas) a wunnerful place? Gets better every day in every way. idf fanclub
  • Score: 13

5:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

KINGPIN100 says...

eccythump wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc.

Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores.

Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on.

This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone.

The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.
Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right.
Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though !
i went to asda at lidget green today only an halal meat counter,asked where the proper butchers counter had gone and was told all meat is on the isles. im a sikh i dont eat it unless im drunk lol
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.[/p][/quote]Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc. Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores. Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on. This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone. The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.[/p][/quote]Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right. Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though ![/p][/quote]i went to asda at lidget green today only an halal meat counter,asked where the proper butchers counter had gone and was told all meat is on the isles. im a sikh i dont eat it unless im drunk lol KINGPIN100
  • Score: 11

8:08am Wed 30 Jul 14

eccythump says...

KINGPIN100 wrote:
eccythump wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall.

Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him.

I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.
What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.
Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc.

Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores.

Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on.

This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone.

The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.
Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right.
Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though !
i went to asda at lidget green today only an halal meat counter,asked where the proper butchers counter had gone and was told all meat is on the isles. im a sikh i dont eat it unless im drunk lol
LOL ! I wont eat it at all. Sometimes starving after a few bevvies though, mighty tempted to scoff a dirty Kebab. But I have resisted said temptation :)
[quote][p][bold]KINGPIN100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Wonder why we can't comment on the Bradford should be twinned with Gaza story or why a Palastine flag is flying on City Hall. Pandering to the noisy minority, Galloway loves it and uses it for his own gain. Cllr Green has been very weak in this by allowing it and now Galloway is taunting him by saying Bradford should be twinned with Gaza as he has him right where he wants him. I'm embarrassed by the actions of the council which has led to hate mobs abusing people using tescos on canal road as they push their agenda further and further.[/p][/quote]What happened at Tesco's? Your the second person I've heard mention it but I haven't seen any report in the T&A.[/p][/quote]Basically there is a group going round calling themselves Boycott Bradford who want all shops to cut ties with Israeli products. They have a list of companies on the boycott list such as Coke Cola, McDonalds, Tesco's etc. Well they have been asking people to boycott these shops and products but have taken it up a notch by protesting outside stores. Bradford played Blackburn on Saturday and a few fans I know say they were verbally abused for going into the store on canal road by the gathered hate mob whilst the police just watched on. This is what token gestures like the flag lead to. They think they have the support to do what they want and push their beliefs on everyone. The week before I went to that very Tesco's with my two young children like many others do. Why should we have to stand this harassment at the hands of a vigilante mob who get at those who don't sing from the same hymn sheet.[/p][/quote]Makes you laugh. I stopped going to Tesco, as they replaced the Deli' counter with a Halal butchery counter. Guess all that appeasement got them nowhere, as I know others did too. Now those they were trying to attract, are against them, serves them right. Worrying that the ex-Tesco boss is taking over Morrisons though ![/p][/quote]i went to asda at lidget green today only an halal meat counter,asked where the proper butchers counter had gone and was told all meat is on the isles. im a sikh i dont eat it unless im drunk lol[/p][/quote]LOL ! I wont eat it at all. Sometimes starving after a few bevvies though, mighty tempted to scoff a dirty Kebab. But I have resisted said temptation :) eccythump
  • Score: 7

7:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Dr Martin says...

Watch and Learn

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=etXAm-Oy
lQQ
Watch and Learn https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=etXAm-Oy lQQ Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

1:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

MyBradford says...

Its bit hard to give directions to leave to someone who is drunk, they just come back after 20mins of walking in circle.
Its bit hard to give directions to leave to someone who is drunk, they just come back after 20mins of walking in circle. MyBradford
  • Score: 2

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