£50m lottery award will transform babies' lives in deprived areas of Bradford

CELEBRATION: Big cheers at the Mayfield Centre to announce £49m Big Lottery Fund for Better Start Bradford Project.

ALL SMILES: From left, Better Start Bradford Programme manager Gill Thornton, Big Lottery Fund EnglandDirector Dharmendra Kanani, with Bezalel Mukoko and Indi and Benjamin Elcock.

Big Lottery fund director Dharmendra Kanani mets LtR Ayaan, Aydin & Sonia Siddique at the Mayfield Centre.

The Mayfield Centre has received £49m from Big Lottery Fund.

Barkerend midwife Jo Mallinson with baby Ayaan Ahmid Asib, at the Mayfield Centre.

First published in News

A £50 MILLION lottery grant will transform the lives of babies in one of the poorest areas of Bradford.

About 20,000 children, from before birth to three-years-old - the most crucial time for health, emotional and educational development - will benefit from a new ten-year project.

The results could be used to shape national, and even global, policy.

The £48,969,270, from the Big Lottery Fund, has been given to the Better Start Bradford community partnership led by Bradford Trident, which works with families in Bowling and Barkerend, Bradford Moor and Little Horton.

The district as a whole has significant deprivation levels and within these wards - where approximately 1,430 babies are born each year - there are high rates of infant mortality and child poverty, low school readiness and high rates of domestic violence and child protection orders.

Bradford Trident Chief Executive Mick Binns said: “This programme will change the future prospects of a whole generation of our children and we are delighted to be working with our communities and partners to achieve it.”

Since March 2013, Bradford Trident, which won a Bradford Council-led bidding process to run the scheme, has been speaking to families.

Better Start Bradford Programme manager Gill Thornton said: "What's really good about our Better Start project in Bradford is that we've got loads of parents involved in it and it's going to be led by the community, so that means It's going to last forever and those messages are going to be spread far and wide

"We're expecting it to be a huge success and to make a massive difference. What we learn in the Better Start area is going to spread across Bradford."

The grant was announced to families at Bradford Trident's Mayfield Centre yesterday.

Big Lottery Fund England Director Dharmendra Kanani said: "It won't be something that they feel is just being done to them. What we're doing here is working with, and for, communities.

"A lot of the mothers here are saying is that this is the first that we feel that we've been listened to, we feel as if actually this is going to be different and actually we feel that children are going to have a different outcome as a result.

"One really very poignant comment from a mother was 'for the first time it feels like I've got a tannoy. For the first time someone is listening to me and I can broadcast across Bradford, but also across England.'"

He said the work would be looked to by policy makers across the world and the longevity of the project would mean the money could make a real difference.

Better Start will include 23 projects, which will be rolled out over the next six months, including the Family Nurse Partnership - a voluntary home visiting programme for first time teenage parents, storytelling groups, outdoor play activities and nutrition programmes.

Midwives’ case loads will be reduced to allow them to provide more personalised care and extra home visits.

The Big Lottery Fund’s A Better Start programme aims to prevent costly health problems such as heart disease and diabetes, social, problems such as neglect, and low educational attainment.

Mr Kanani said: “Parents want the best for their children and as a society we know that what happens in the first three years of life profoundly affects a child’s future life chances.

"A poor start in life can affect your health, wellbeing, outlook on life and how you form relationships. Prevention matters more in the early years as we have a much greater understanding of what can and might improve the life chances of a future generation, that is why this investment is focusing on the three key areas of social and emotional development, nutrition, and language and communication development.

"It's about prevention, it's about working with families, it's working with mothers, it's working from the womb outwards, it's about communities giving their babies a better start."

The leader of Bradford Council, Councillor David Green, said: “This project will help families and young children that live in some of our poorest communities. The resources that have been secured will give us the opportunity to make a real difference to many people’s lives over the next decade.”

The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it.

“Bradford has one of the youngest populations of any area in Britain. We have to put our youngest citizens at the heart of what we do and prioritise their education and health.

"This project will ultimately bring benefit to the whole of the district and will help us improve the chances of the next generation," he said.

"It's all about parents and children. It's not about me or the Council or anything else. It's about transforming lives, and that's what it will do."

Better Start will work alongside the Born in Bradford study which has been following 13,500 babies since 2007, exploring why some stay healthy but others don't.

More than 7,000 pregnant mums will join Born in Bradford, which will also host an Innovation Hub, led by Professor Kate Pickett, to develop ways to improve health.

Mr Kanani said the exclusive work of Born in Bradford alongside Better Start meant the city had a "unique opportunity".

"Unlike anywhere else in England you've got a generation that's actually being tracked and followed to see the changes in a community and in a population," he said.

"And so for the first time, I think globally, you'll have an opportunity to see what do you need to do to enable a community to have a different and a better outcome and you'll be able to understand what's needed to do that."

The 23 projects will be managed by Bradford Trident, parent and community representatives, the Council, Bradford Teaching Hospital Foundation Trust, Bradford District Care Trust, Bradford City and Bradford District Clinical Commissioning Groups, Bradford District VCS Assembly, West Yorkshire Police, Born in Bradford and the private sector.

Bradford is one of five areas in England sharing £215 million from the Big Lottery Fund’s A Better Start investment and has received the most funding. The other areas are Southend, Nottingham, Blackpool and Lambeth, London

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7:23am Tue 17 Jun 14

juliercarr says...

It shouldn't be just for bd5 @ trident it should be for all areas of Bradford , trident has already been investigated for misusing funds and there is poor areas other than in bd5
It shouldn't be just for bd5 @ trident it should be for all areas of Bradford , trident has already been investigated for misusing funds and there is poor areas other than in bd5 juliercarr
  • Score: 56

7:37am Tue 17 Jun 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Yes the ethnic areas get the helping hand again and as you say there are many other areas. It's like the postcode lottery and have to prove how skint you are.
But look, Tony Reeves has spoken along with his ever so vociferous understudy.
It's a shame they can't open up about who sanctioned the council tax payers money that Omar Khan got his paws on.
Mind you it is funny how Reeves goes on about this being a young city but last week Green said the opposite saying we have more of an older generation ( radio Leeds)
Come on lads, if you're going to feed us a load of old bull then get your facts right.
Yes the ethnic areas get the helping hand again and as you say there are many other areas. It's like the postcode lottery and have to prove how skint you are. But look, Tony Reeves has spoken along with his ever so vociferous understudy. It's a shame they can't open up about who sanctioned the council tax payers money that Omar Khan got his paws on. Mind you it is funny how Reeves goes on about this being a young city but last week Green said the opposite saying we have more of an older generation ( radio Leeds) Come on lads, if you're going to feed us a load of old bull then get your facts right. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 38

8:12am Tue 17 Jun 14

Apollo says...

Victorian Bradford.
Victorian Bradford. Apollo
  • Score: 24

8:24am Tue 17 Jun 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.
Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 43

8:41am Tue 17 Jun 14

collos25 says...

The money will disappear into thin air .
The money will disappear into thin air . collos25
  • Score: 43

9:17am Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -52

9:26am Tue 17 Jun 14

juliercarr says...

They were responsible for that monstrosity on Manchester road they call a bridge supposed to cost millions surely people so poor and depraved should be educated not to have children they obviously cannot afford
They were responsible for that monstrosity on Manchester road they call a bridge supposed to cost millions surely people so poor and depraved should be educated not to have children they obviously cannot afford juliercarr
  • Score: 26

9:28am Tue 17 Jun 14

OLDLAD says...

These are all things that should be taught at home.
These are all things that should be taught at home. OLDLAD
  • Score: 15

10:09am Tue 17 Jun 14

collos25 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual. collos25
  • Score: 60

11:14am Tue 17 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
i know.
could at least try hide it better!
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.[/p][/quote]i know. could at least try hide it better! tinytoonster
  • Score: 51

11:47am Tue 17 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

Surely we should be asking why Bradford’s deprivation is so bad that the only way to fix the problem is a handout? To City Hall’s shame we have received the most funding because nationally our problems are the most severe.

This grant, welcome as it may well be, is just tackling the symptoms in one small area of the city. It is not fixing the root cause which as we all know is the Council’s seeming inability to regenerate Bradford.
Surely we should be asking why Bradford’s deprivation is so bad that the only way to fix the problem is a handout? To City Hall’s shame we have received the most funding because nationally our problems are the most severe. This grant, welcome as it may well be, is just tackling the symptoms in one small area of the city. It is not fixing the root cause which as we all know is the Council’s seeming inability to regenerate Bradford. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 71

11:56am Tue 17 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world. baildongreen
  • Score: 81

12:28pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

We were once the richest city in England now we have to beg for charity for help with public hygiene. Our downfall and humiliation is complete. Somebody in the Labour Group should have the decency to resign over this.
We were once the richest city in England now we have to beg for charity for help with public hygiene. Our downfall and humiliation is complete. Somebody in the Labour Group should have the decency to resign over this. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 68

12:32pm Tue 17 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
Surely we should be asking why Bradford’s deprivation is so bad that the only way to fix the problem is a handout? To City Hall’s shame we have received the most funding because nationally our problems are the most severe.

This grant, welcome as it may well be, is just tackling the symptoms in one small area of the city. It is not fixing the root cause which as we all know is the Council’s seeming inability to regenerate Bradford.
The whole city lives on benefits, there’s no reason why the Council should be any exception. Did this money come from the overseas aid budget?
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Surely we should be asking why Bradford’s deprivation is so bad that the only way to fix the problem is a handout? To City Hall’s shame we have received the most funding because nationally our problems are the most severe. This grant, welcome as it may well be, is just tackling the symptoms in one small area of the city. It is not fixing the root cause which as we all know is the Council’s seeming inability to regenerate Bradford.[/p][/quote]The whole city lives on benefits, there’s no reason why the Council should be any exception. Did this money come from the overseas aid budget? izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 55

12:37pm Tue 17 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

Well, if this came from lottery funds, I can safely say that I have not donated one penny into it.

The lottery is just an extension of income tax, where organisations get grants which would come from the government it the lottery fund wasnt available.
Well, if this came from lottery funds, I can safely say that I have not donated one penny into it. The lottery is just an extension of income tax, where organisations get grants which would come from the government it the lottery fund wasnt available. WayneRouke
  • Score: 9

12:39pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Bikerbeardy says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.
hehe, probably true as well !
I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect.

"The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it."

anyone dare say why this is !!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.[/p][/quote]hehe, probably true as well ! I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect. "The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it." anyone dare say why this is !! Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 51

12:43pm Tue 17 Jun 14

FinlandStation says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics? FinlandStation
  • Score: 50

12:47pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.[/p][/quote]Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent. bcfc1903
  • Score: -48

12:49pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
i know.
could at least try hide it better!
What, you mean this....

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.[/p][/quote]i know. could at least try hide it better![/p][/quote]What, you mean this.... Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -53

12:51pm Tue 17 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

baildongreen wrote:
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
Like all aid sent to the third world most of the cash will end up the pockets of corrupt middle men. The people on the ground will get just enough to stave off an investigation and provide some T&A photo opportunities.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.[/p][/quote]Like all aid sent to the third world most of the cash will end up the pockets of corrupt middle men. The people on the ground will get just enough to stave off an investigation and provide some T&A photo opportunities. gouldengirl
  • Score: 52

12:53pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
[quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre. bcfc1903
  • Score: -47

12:59pm Tue 17 Jun 14

allannicho says...

Having too many babies simples!
Having too many babies simples! allannicho
  • Score: 38

1:07pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bachtothefuture says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
The Council may be (just about) involved, but they’re not committed. The fact that they employ a none to tightly wrapped advocate like yourself speaks volumes about their competence and Bradford’s future.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]The Council may be (just about) involved, but they’re not committed. The fact that they employ a none to tightly wrapped advocate like yourself speaks volumes about their competence and Bradford’s future. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 36

1:35pm Tue 17 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability. WayneRouke
  • Score: 38

1:40pm Tue 17 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
On top of the Virgin cutbacks Morrisons’ have just announced 2600 management redundancies. Let’s see you spin that into a triumph for our wonderful Council. The City is sliding backwards whilst the rest of the UK powers ahead.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]On top of the Virgin cutbacks Morrisons’ have just announced 2600 management redundancies. Let’s see you spin that into a triumph for our wonderful Council. The City is sliding backwards whilst the rest of the UK powers ahead. baildongreen
  • Score: 41

1:42pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Bikerbeardy says...

http://hansard.millb
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ng-bradford

Interesting conversation from the house of commons in 1974, again Barkerend mentioned as well as other slums in Bradford, strangley it mentions Barkerend as receiving an award for providing good housing in an improvement area, seems that the same areas have to be improved again and again over the years!!
http://hansard.millb anksystems.com/commo ns/1974/jan/23/housi ng-bradford Interesting conversation from the house of commons in 1974, again Barkerend mentioned as well as other slums in Bradford, strangley it mentions Barkerend as receiving an award for providing good housing in an improvement area, seems that the same areas have to be improved again and again over the years!! Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 31

3:08pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 31

3:24pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Out of site says...

baildongreen wrote:
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
We are a third world city.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.[/p][/quote]We are a third world city. Out of site
  • Score: 45

3:25pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Out of site says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Very funny,I think not.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Very funny,I think not. Out of site
  • Score: 33

3:27pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Out of site says...

Bikerbeardy wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.
hehe, probably true as well !
I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect.

"The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it."

anyone dare say why this is !!
Can't or won't speak English.
[quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.[/p][/quote]hehe, probably true as well ! I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect. "The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it." anyone dare say why this is !![/p][/quote]Can't or won't speak English. Out of site
  • Score: 37

3:30pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Out of site says...

Bikerbeardy wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.
hehe, probably true as well !
I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect.

"The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it."

anyone dare say why this is !!
Can't or won't speak English.
[quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Those deprived areas mentioned have more top of the range motors than ilkley and Harrogate put together.[/p][/quote]hehe, probably true as well ! I remember a few years ago the same areas, especially Barkerend receiving huge amounts of money from the EEC funds as it was officially classed as a slum, how many handouts are needed, dosent change a thing, and it wont I expect. "The Council's chief executive Tony Reeves said many children who started school in the BD5 areas were currently not ready for it." anyone dare say why this is !![/p][/quote]Can't or won't speak English. Out of site
  • Score: 26

4:50pm Tue 17 Jun 14

collos25 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent.
When your in a hole stop digging,everybody knows you are a spokesperson for Bradford Council why hide it as it is you just make yourself look a fool.
Bradford Trident cannot explain where all the money it has received has gone whats another 50million between friends.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.[/p][/quote]Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent.[/p][/quote]When your in a hole stop digging,everybody knows you are a spokesperson for Bradford Council why hide it as it is you just make yourself look a fool. Bradford Trident cannot explain where all the money it has received has gone whats another 50million between friends. collos25
  • Score: 35

5:15pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Meerkat33 says...

This really annoys me, yet again BD5/West Bowling have got money, have these people ever ventured next door to East Bowling, it's more deprived than West Bowling has ever been. West Bowling got money to do the houses up, East Bowling didn't, seems to me if your face don't fit and all that.
This really annoys me, yet again BD5/West Bowling have got money, have these people ever ventured next door to East Bowling, it's more deprived than West Bowling has ever been. West Bowling got money to do the houses up, East Bowling didn't, seems to me if your face don't fit and all that. Meerkat33
  • Score: 29

6:46pm Tue 17 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
I am enjoying this moment.

A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens.

The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]I am enjoying this moment. A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens. The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again. pcmanners
  • Score: 32

7:17pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
The Council may be (just about) involved, but they’re not committed. The fact that they employ a none to tightly wrapped advocate like yourself speaks volumes about their competence and Bradford’s future.
Who mentioned Bradford Council? Employed by Bradford Council, yes I'm both Councillor Green and Councillor Hinchcliffe with the propaganda skills of both the Third Reich and North Korea combined, you've no chance.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]The Council may be (just about) involved, but they’re not committed. The fact that they employ a none to tightly wrapped advocate like yourself speaks volumes about their competence and Bradford’s future.[/p][/quote]Who mentioned Bradford Council? Employed by Bradford Council, yes I'm both Councillor Green and Councillor Hinchcliffe with the propaganda skills of both the Third Reich and North Korea combined, you've no chance. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -20

7:21pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -23

7:31pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
On top of the Virgin cutbacks Morrisons’ have just announced 2600 management redundancies. Let’s see you spin that into a triumph for our wonderful Council. The City is sliding backwards whilst the rest of the UK powers ahead.
You seem to have Bradford Council on the brain.

I take it all 2,600 jobs are going at the Five Lane Ends Enterprise 5.

Sad news indeed regarding anyone who is about to lose their job in this country wide job cutting execiise. Was surprised that WM Morrisons had in some stores seven levels of management between shop floor and store manager, for me an unsustainable amount of managers in todays cut throat grocer market place, hence the job cuts.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]On top of the Virgin cutbacks Morrisons’ have just announced 2600 management redundancies. Let’s see you spin that into a triumph for our wonderful Council. The City is sliding backwards whilst the rest of the UK powers ahead.[/p][/quote]You seem to have Bradford Council on the brain. I take it all 2,600 jobs are going at the Five Lane Ends Enterprise 5. Sad news indeed regarding anyone who is about to lose their job in this country wide job cutting execiise. Was surprised that WM Morrisons had in some stores seven levels of management between shop floor and store manager, for me an unsustainable amount of managers in todays cut throat grocer market place, hence the job cuts. bcfc1903
  • Score: -12

7:36pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.
Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-)


but wait.... here is my original post....

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-) but wait.... here is my original post.... Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -16

7:39pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.
Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent.
When your in a hole stop digging,everybody knows you are a spokesperson for Bradford Council why hide it as it is you just make yourself look a fool.
Bradford Trident cannot explain where all the money it has received has gone whats another 50million between friends.
Everyone, wow high praise indeed, I take everyone also knows your nose bleeds every month.

but wait...my original post.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of Bradford Council as usual.[/p][/quote]Paranoid drivel as usual, at least you're consistent.[/p][/quote]When your in a hole stop digging,everybody knows you are a spokesperson for Bradford Council why hide it as it is you just make yourself look a fool. Bradford Trident cannot explain where all the money it has received has gone whats another 50million between friends.[/p][/quote]Everyone, wow high praise indeed, I take everyone also knows your nose bleeds every month. but wait...my original post. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -16

7:43pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

pcmanners wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
I am enjoying this moment.

A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens.

The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again.
It seems Lambeth, Nottingham, Blackpool and Southend also got lottery cash, I take it the Government is the lottery, you learn something every day :-).


but wait, my original post.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]I am enjoying this moment. A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens. The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again.[/p][/quote]It seems Lambeth, Nottingham, Blackpool and Southend also got lottery cash, I take it the Government is the lottery, you learn something every day :-). but wait, my original post. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely. bcfc1903
  • Score: -16

7:52pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

pcmanners wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
I am enjoying this moment.

A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens.

The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again.
Funnily enough I agree with you that the Council has been humiliated. Both the political and the operational sides.

The reason is that Cllr Green is just playing at socialism and therefore isn't collecting enough money to help the poor of this city. The Council Tax is only barely progressive, he should start soaking the rich.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]I am enjoying this moment. A failed socialist Council has had to go cap in hand begging for money from a private enterprise company set up by a Conservative Government in order to provide the most basic of services for its citizens. The incompetent Councillor Green has been totally humiliated, and sensible people will never vote for him again.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough I agree with you that the Council has been humiliated. Both the political and the operational sides. The reason is that Cllr Green is just playing at socialism and therefore isn't collecting enough money to help the poor of this city. The Council Tax is only barely progressive, he should start soaking the rich. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 12

8:04pm Tue 17 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.
Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-)



but wait.... here is my original post....

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Seriously bcfc, if you're not a wind-up I suggest you have a chat with your GP.

Repetition does not automatically confer either authority or persuasion. Usually quite the reverse. Have you though of submitting your posts in block capitals with each letter a different colour?
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-) but wait.... here is my original post.... Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Seriously bcfc, if you're not a wind-up I suggest you have a chat with your GP. Repetition does not automatically confer either authority or persuasion. Usually quite the reverse. Have you though of submitting your posts in block capitals with each letter a different colour? izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 17

10:06pm Tue 17 Jun 14

eccythump says...

baildongreen wrote:
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :(
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.[/p][/quote]Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :( eccythump
  • Score: 19

10:33pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Macca51 says...

Eccythump bang on the money. It is an indisputable medical fact that first cousins marrying leads to a much higher rate of infant mortality and illnesses of varying degrees. And like it or not, this IS a practice that is very common amongst communities within Bradford.

I'm sure that this money will be very welcome in the areas mentioned, but wouldn't it be good if some of it was used to address a root cause rather than simply putting a sticking plaster over it.

It's a sad indictment of the world we live in where such is the paranoi for fear of being non PC that this is a subject that most shy away from, including the as always gutless Telegraph and Argus.

In line with the recent outlawing of arranged marriages, maybe this issue should be looked at and action taken.
Eccythump bang on the money. It is an indisputable medical fact that first cousins marrying leads to a much higher rate of infant mortality and illnesses of varying degrees. And like it or not, this IS a practice that is very common amongst communities within Bradford. I'm sure that this money will be very welcome in the areas mentioned, but wouldn't it be good if some of it was used to address a root cause rather than simply putting a sticking plaster over it. It's a sad indictment of the world we live in where such is the paranoi for fear of being non PC that this is a subject that most shy away from, including the as always gutless Telegraph and Argus. In line with the recent outlawing of arranged marriages, maybe this issue should be looked at and action taken. Macca51
  • Score: 14

10:35pm Tue 17 Jun 14

FinlandStation says...

eccythump wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :(
It’s a very good point, much of the problem has to do with an inappropriate culture that is holding back progress. I’m sure if the money is spent intelligently, and not squandered, then education about sensible and healthy habits will be at the core.

Nobody’s denying that the Council haven’t been dealt a bad hand when it comes to the inner city areas, but they could have done lot more instead of just standing back and refusing to interfere because of a misplaced concern about offending people’s cultural sensitivities.
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.[/p][/quote]Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :([/p][/quote]It’s a very good point, much of the problem has to do with an inappropriate culture that is holding back progress. I’m sure if the money is spent intelligently, and not squandered, then education about sensible and healthy habits will be at the core. Nobody’s denying that the Council haven’t been dealt a bad hand when it comes to the inner city areas, but they could have done lot more instead of just standing back and refusing to interfere because of a misplaced concern about offending people’s cultural sensitivities. FinlandStation
  • Score: 12

10:42pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

Macca51 wrote:
Eccythump bang on the money. It is an indisputable medical fact that first cousins marrying leads to a much higher rate of infant mortality and illnesses of varying degrees. And like it or not, this IS a practice that is very common amongst communities within Bradford.

I'm sure that this money will be very welcome in the areas mentioned, but wouldn't it be good if some of it was used to address a root cause rather than simply putting a sticking plaster over it.

It's a sad indictment of the world we live in where such is the paranoi for fear of being non PC that this is a subject that most shy away from, including the as always gutless Telegraph and Argus.

In line with the recent outlawing of arranged marriages, maybe this issue should be looked at and action taken.
The Labour Group will never offend or try to change the culture of their core vote. Look how little action they have taken on FGM.
[quote][p][bold]Macca51[/bold] wrote: Eccythump bang on the money. It is an indisputable medical fact that first cousins marrying leads to a much higher rate of infant mortality and illnesses of varying degrees. And like it or not, this IS a practice that is very common amongst communities within Bradford. I'm sure that this money will be very welcome in the areas mentioned, but wouldn't it be good if some of it was used to address a root cause rather than simply putting a sticking plaster over it. It's a sad indictment of the world we live in where such is the paranoi for fear of being non PC that this is a subject that most shy away from, including the as always gutless Telegraph and Argus. In line with the recent outlawing of arranged marriages, maybe this issue should be looked at and action taken.[/p][/quote]The Labour Group will never offend or try to change the culture of their core vote. Look how little action they have taken on FGM. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 8

10:53pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Victor Clayton says...

We need serious improvements in the city's infrastructure. A proper inner and outer ring road, and a dual carriage all the way from the M606 to skipton. Then maybe we can bring a bit of wealth to the whole city.
We need serious improvements in the city's infrastructure. A proper inner and outer ring road, and a dual carriage all the way from the M606 to skipton. Then maybe we can bring a bit of wealth to the whole city. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 3

9:07am Wed 18 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.
Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-)




but wait.... here is my original post....

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Seriously bcfc, if you're not a wind-up I suggest you have a chat with your GP.

Repetition does not automatically confer either authority or persuasion. Usually quite the reverse. Have you though of submitting your posts in block capitals with each letter a different colour?
No, have you?
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]How dare you use our football club as your username to promote council propaganda. If you represent them then you are constant with the Dave Green waffle bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Great isn't it....We love you Bradford Council we do, we love you Bradford Council, we do, we love you Bradford Council we do, Oh Bradford Council we love you. For Ever and Ever we'll follow our team, Bradford Council, we rule supreme, we'll never be mastered.........:-) but wait.... here is my original post.... Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Seriously bcfc, if you're not a wind-up I suggest you have a chat with your GP. Repetition does not automatically confer either authority or persuasion. Usually quite the reverse. Have you though of submitting your posts in block capitals with each letter a different colour?[/p][/quote]No, have you? bcfc1903
  • Score: -4

9:37am Wed 18 Jun 14

They only do damage! says...

Why does the money always! go to one community. We all have the same chances, or because they have minority status they have more rights than anyone else. Why does holmewood, canterbury, bierley never get a look in. Over the last 20 years the asians of Bradford have recieved over 500 million in grants from various organisations. If there culture of not wanting an education, marrying there first cousin and not intergrating holds them back then who's responsible.
Why does the money always! go to one community. We all have the same chances, or because they have minority status they have more rights than anyone else. Why does holmewood, canterbury, bierley never get a look in. Over the last 20 years the asians of Bradford have recieved over 500 million in grants from various organisations. If there culture of not wanting an education, marrying there first cousin and not intergrating holds them back then who's responsible. They only do damage!
  • Score: 18

10:25am Wed 18 Jun 14

Bikerbeardy says...

eccythump wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.
Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :(
agree with eccythump, unfortuanatly it will take many generations before the practice dies out, I work with some 3rd and 4th generation asians and they are still having arranged marriages to their first cousins, they know the risks associated but they have no choice and dare not rebel against their parents and family wishes, in fact the practise never will cease probably, thus always creating disabled kids and child mortality.its sad really and in a totally unbiased way makes me glad to be a white athiest.
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: To need this amount of money to sort out basic problems such as infant mortality, child poverty, low school readiness, and high rates of domestic should be deeply embarrassing to the Council. These are third world problems that should not arise in a well-run city in the developed world.[/p][/quote]Dya think anyone will dare mention, that the infant mortality rate could well be linked to the repeated cousin marrying habit of many in these areas ? Or that high rates of domestic abuse, will be the norm' when your religion advocates it. Or that its hard to be ready for school when you can't speak English and rarely hear it at home !? :([/p][/quote]agree with eccythump, unfortuanatly it will take many generations before the practice dies out, I work with some 3rd and 4th generation asians and they are still having arranged marriages to their first cousins, they know the risks associated but they have no choice and dare not rebel against their parents and family wishes, in fact the practise never will cease probably, thus always creating disabled kids and child mortality.its sad really and in a totally unbiased way makes me glad to be a white athiest. Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 12

1:40pm Wed 18 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate."

And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???).

That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this?

So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate." And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???). That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this? So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do. WayneRouke
  • Score: 3

2:35pm Wed 18 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate."

And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???).

That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this?

So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.
Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate." And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???). That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this? So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.[/p][/quote]Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years. bcfc1903
  • Score: -9

12:32pm Fri 20 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate."

And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???).

That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this?

So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.
Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.
I maintain my firm belief that some people actually get paid to be an idiot.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate." And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???). That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this? So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.[/p][/quote]Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.[/p][/quote]I maintain my firm belief that some people actually get paid to be an idiot. WayneRouke
  • Score: 2

10:10am Mon 23 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?
That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.
??
yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.???

Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.
I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below.

Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.
"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate."

And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???).

That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this?

So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.
Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.
I maintain my firm belief that some people actually get paid to be an idiot.
You must be on minimum wage.


Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]Make your mind up. Only yesterday you were claiming that our perfectly perfect Council were successfully regenerating the inner city. They can’t be making much progress if they need £50 Mio worth of charity to sort out the basics?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense, there are other cities receiving lottery cash in regards to deprived areas, and yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.[/p][/quote]?? yes Bradford Council is involved in regenerating Bradford city centre.??? Well, they aint making a very good job of it. Perhaps things would improve if they STOPPED getting involved in projects far above their ability.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate. But what's that got to do with this thread. My original post was the one below. Good news indeed, obviously a serious amount of cash going to deprived areas of the city, it's all good. Bradford Trident does some great work in and around the City of Bradford, this substantial amount of cash I'm sure will be spent wisely.[/p][/quote]"I beg to differ, I believe Bradford Council are in the process of helping Bradford regenerate." And Once again, they arent making a very good job of it. They have a lovely puddle in the centre to bring VIPs to and something pretty for the council workers to look at through their office windows (instead of working???). That square mile is very nice. I admit it. But go beyond that in any direction and its a wasteland. And who can we blame for this? So, the council should keep their fingers out of council business, because they are absolutely cr4p at doing the job they are paid to do.[/p][/quote]Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years.[/p][/quote]I maintain my firm belief that some people actually get paid to be an idiot.[/p][/quote]You must be on minimum wage. Bradford has always had some poor housing, you could say exactly the same thing when looking at other major cities including locally Leeds and Manchester. Yes it would be great to improve some of the poorer housing in the city and indeed a scheme was finished recently in the Goitside area doing just that. Of course the present Bradford Council. worked tirelessly to get Westfield up and running, of course Meyer Bergman played the crucial part but the council also played a big part in getting that scheme up and running. So I cannot agree that this Bradford Council is poor, far from it, I believe they are the best Bradford has had for many many years. They also took overall control of Bradford Council, the first time that's happened in many many years. bcfc1903
  • Score: -1

12:30pm Mon 23 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit.

Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof).

Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.
NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit. Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof). Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt. WayneRouke
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Mon 23 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit.

Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof).

Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.
My sense of humour is too much for some obviously.

This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year.

I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit. Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof). Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.[/p][/quote]My sense of humour is too much for some obviously. This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year. I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure. bcfc1903
  • Score: -1

1:32pm Wed 25 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit.

Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof).

Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.
My sense of humour is too much for some obviously.

This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year.

I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure.
"I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure."

That statement tells me a lot.. And it does not mean other people do not feel threatened and intimidated in Bradford. I did, my wife did, and a lot of my friends and colleagues did. I cannot speak for the present, as I got out of Bradford.

As for sense of humour... What sense of humour? I do not see you as a person I wish to share humour with.

You have clearly missed the anagram.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit. Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof). Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.[/p][/quote]My sense of humour is too much for some obviously. This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year. I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure.[/p][/quote]"I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure." That statement tells me a lot.. And it does not mean other people do not feel threatened and intimidated in Bradford. I did, my wife did, and a lot of my friends and colleagues did. I cannot speak for the present, as I got out of Bradford. As for sense of humour... What sense of humour? I do not see you as a person I wish to share humour with. You have clearly missed the anagram. WayneRouke
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Wed 25 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit.

Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof).

Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.
My sense of humour is too much for some obviously.

This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year.

I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure.
"I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure."

That statement tells me a lot.. And it does not mean other people do not feel threatened and intimidated in Bradford. I did, my wife did, and a lot of my friends and colleagues did. I cannot speak for the present, as I got out of Bradford.

As for sense of humour... What sense of humour? I do not see you as a person I wish to share humour with.

You have clearly missed the anagram.
Can't say I've ever felt intimidated let alone threatened nor has my wife kids and many many relations and can't say the subject has ever come up regarding this talking to friends. I suggest your mindset is not common as the recent events in City Park have been heaving with mostly families present. My son did have his car window smashed in Leeds and contents stolen but West Yorkshire seems pretty peaceful to me and many other folk we know. We wouldn't live anywhere else.

I see you still haven't got my quip regarding you and the minimum wage, or perhaps you did.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: NEVER been on minimum wage. In 35 years, no more than a year in total on unemployment benefit. Currently earning over 50k PA (and will prove it if you divulge your private email address, home address and phone number, so I can deliver you the proof). Left Bradford, due to constantly feeling under threat and seeing desolation and rubbish wherever I looked. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. in MY OPINION, Bradford Council is useless and corrupt.[/p][/quote]My sense of humour is too much for some obviously. This Bradford Council are fine, for me the best Bradford has had in many a long year. I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure.[/p][/quote]"I've never felt under any threat what so ever living in Bradford, that's for sure." That statement tells me a lot.. And it does not mean other people do not feel threatened and intimidated in Bradford. I did, my wife did, and a lot of my friends and colleagues did. I cannot speak for the present, as I got out of Bradford. As for sense of humour... What sense of humour? I do not see you as a person I wish to share humour with. You have clearly missed the anagram.[/p][/quote]Can't say I've ever felt intimidated let alone threatened nor has my wife kids and many many relations and can't say the subject has ever come up regarding this talking to friends. I suggest your mindset is not common as the recent events in City Park have been heaving with mostly families present. My son did have his car window smashed in Leeds and contents stolen but West Yorkshire seems pretty peaceful to me and many other folk we know. We wouldn't live anywhere else. I see you still haven't got my quip regarding you and the minimum wage, or perhaps you did. bcfc1903
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1:07pm Thu 26 Jun 14

WayneRouke says...

We will have to differ on opinion then, which is our right to do so.. You cannot tell me I did not FEEL threatened or intimidated, no more than I can say you did not FEEL the same way.

I did get your Quip... But I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person...
We will have to differ on opinion then, which is our right to do so.. You cannot tell me I did not FEEL threatened or intimidated, no more than I can say you did not FEEL the same way. I did get your Quip... But I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person... WayneRouke
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7:24pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
We will have to differ on opinion then, which is our right to do so.. You cannot tell me I did not FEEL threatened or intimidated, no more than I can say you did not FEEL the same way.

I did get your Quip... But I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person...
I never did tell you, you didn't feel threatened or intimidated, I just said I didn't , my family hadn't or any friends I've talked to had never mentioned such a thing in conversation.

As for a battle of wits, I guess you like half a battle.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: We will have to differ on opinion then, which is our right to do so.. You cannot tell me I did not FEEL threatened or intimidated, no more than I can say you did not FEEL the same way. I did get your Quip... But I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person...[/p][/quote]I never did tell you, you didn't feel threatened or intimidated, I just said I didn't , my family hadn't or any friends I've talked to had never mentioned such a thing in conversation. As for a battle of wits, I guess you like half a battle. bcfc1903
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