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Plans for wind turbine thrown out by councillors

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Councillor Malcolm Sykes Councillor Malcolm Sykes

Councillors have turned down plans for a 34-metre wind turbine in the green belt at Thornton amid fears the number of turbines in the vicinity is turning the area into a wind farm by the back door.

Bradford Council planning officers had recommended the scheme at 75 Back Heights Road, which was for a 50kw turbine on a 25 metre mast, be approved. But the majority of councillors at Bradford Planning Panel yesterday disagreed.

Four members voted against the plans, while two abstained.

Councillor Malcolm Sykes (Con, Thornton and Allerton) was particularly concerned about the scheme.

“For me this is inappropriate in the green belt and I don’t think there is sufficient mitigation to allow a wind turbine there.

“All these turbines will have a cumulative effect on that part of the moorland.

“When do all these wind turbines in the area become a windfarm, because there are so many of them now?”, he added.

Objectors told the panel about their fears over the constant noise like a washing machine permanently on, and over the possibility of shadow flicker.

They were also concerned that the distance to the nearest home outlined in the officer’s report was incorrect.

Planning officers detailed how an earlier application had been withdrawn due to concerns about the stability of the land and contamination issues as the location was a former landfill site. The application being considered yesterdayTUES had been moved to a different location, which was acceptable to planners.

They had also recommended a condition that sensors be installed to shut down the turbine when it faces a certain direction and the sunlight is such that shadow flicker is likely to occur.

There had been 24 letters objecting to the scheme and four letters in support.

Councillor Keith Dredge (Lab, Keighley West) added: “My concern is that we put a marker in the ground to prevent the cumulative effect of wind turbines in the area.”

The application was refused on the grounds that it was inappropriate development in the green belt and would have a significant impact - and that the very special circumstances required to justify granting planning permission within the green belt were not met.

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9:17am Wed 23 Apr 14

Grumpygirl says...

Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power.

It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.
Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power. It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 5

10:29am Wed 23 Apr 14

BaildonGuy says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power.

It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.
Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy.

However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life.
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power. It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.[/p][/quote]Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy. However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 2

10:40am Wed 23 Apr 14

pcmanners says...

BaildonGuy wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power.

It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.
Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy.

However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life.
You're just another Socialist.

Unlike Labour, the Government recognises that we need rich people to create jobs for the poor. That is why they gave the rich a tax cut, so they could help the country. And it has worked; the economy is improving. Inequality, and therefore unfairness, are unfortunately necessities of a prosperous state.
[quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power. It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.[/p][/quote]Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy. However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life.[/p][/quote]You're just another Socialist. Unlike Labour, the Government recognises that we need rich people to create jobs for the poor. That is why they gave the rich a tax cut, so they could help the country. And it has worked; the economy is improving. Inequality, and therefore unfairness, are unfortunately necessities of a prosperous state. pcmanners
  • Score: 0

11:23am Wed 23 Apr 14

johnh1 says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power.

It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.
Not sure Grumpy, we need all the renewable energy possibly.

I think they could be better designed, get Mr Dyson on the job.

Although then they would be well overpriced.

We need smaller ones to put in the garden if you can afford a garden
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power. It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.[/p][/quote]Not sure Grumpy, we need all the renewable energy possibly. I think they could be better designed, get Mr Dyson on the job. Although then they would be well overpriced. We need smaller ones to put in the garden if you can afford a garden [I cant ] johnh1
  • Score: 7

11:35am Wed 23 Apr 14

sorrow&anger says...

I'm all for renewable energy, but it shouldn't be at our expense.

Most of these turbines are run with the power turned down so the Utilities can pick up the maximum subsidy. Operated like this they're just another scam.

If we are to have these turbines City Hall should insist that they always generate as much electricity as possible. Otherwise no planning permission.
I'm all for renewable energy, but it shouldn't be at our expense. Most of these turbines are run with the power turned down so the Utilities can pick up the maximum subsidy. Operated like this they're just another scam. If we are to have these turbines City Hall should insist that they always generate as much electricity as possible. Otherwise no planning permission. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 1

1:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

basil fawlty says...

The haphazard and uncotrolled way these things are popping up everywhere cannot be right as it is destroying the visual environement. Althought it would apear to be a bit of a "not in my back yard" attitude I think Bradford has enough problems already in promoting itself as a good place to live and work and so we should protect our surrounding countryside from these beasts. Much has already been spoiled.
The haphazard and uncotrolled way these things are popping up everywhere cannot be right as it is destroying the visual environement. Althought it would apear to be a bit of a "not in my back yard" attitude I think Bradford has enough problems already in promoting itself as a good place to live and work and so we should protect our surrounding countryside from these beasts. Much has already been spoiled. basil fawlty
  • Score: 1

1:57pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mad matt says...

To me, the main problems with any wind turbine is that is has to be the most unreliable source of natural energy.
Take a hot sultry day in summer - everybody wanting air conditioning on and the turbines not turning.
Take a cold frosty day in winter - no wind again.
The only sensible source is under-sea tidal turbines which will always generate whenever and wherever the tide is running - predictable, reliable, out of sight and no more expensive to produce than wind turbines.
To me, the main problems with any wind turbine is that is has to be the most unreliable source of natural energy. Take a hot sultry day in summer - everybody wanting air conditioning on and the turbines not turning. Take a cold frosty day in winter - no wind again. The only sensible source is under-sea tidal turbines which will always generate whenever and wherever the tide is running - predictable, reliable, out of sight and no more expensive to produce than wind turbines. mad matt
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

collos25 says...

pcmanners wrote:
BaildonGuy wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power.

It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.
Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy.

However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life.
You're just another Socialist.

Unlike Labour, the Government recognises that we need rich people to create jobs for the poor. That is why they gave the rich a tax cut, so they could help the country. And it has worked; the economy is improving. Inequality, and therefore unfairness, are unfortunately necessities of a prosperous state.
Which School of economics do you belong to the Daily mail school,The reality is somewhat different to your rose coloured theory.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: Wind turbines are popular because they are subsidised by the rest of us through our electricity bill. In other words if you're too poor to own a turbine you get charged more for your power. It's another example of the Tory State transferring money from the poor to the already rich. Tories are the high priests of greed and inequality. As a Labour Council Bradford should ban all turbines on principal.[/p][/quote]Put a bit strongly as usual Grumpy. However I've just finished Piketty's book over the Easter break and it certainly convinced me that the huge inequality in wealth that blights this country is an inevitable result of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse. Come the next election I shall vote for whatever party it is that decides to do something about this basic unfairness in life.[/p][/quote]You're just another Socialist. Unlike Labour, the Government recognises that we need rich people to create jobs for the poor. That is why they gave the rich a tax cut, so they could help the country. And it has worked; the economy is improving. Inequality, and therefore unfairness, are unfortunately necessities of a prosperous state.[/p][/quote]Which School of economics do you belong to the Daily mail school,The reality is somewhat different to your rose coloured theory. collos25
  • Score: -1

4:14pm Wed 23 Apr 14

collos25 says...

"Underlying public sector debt was £1,268.7 billion for the year to the end of March, ahead of the £1,258 billion forecast last month by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), as central government receipts were lower than the OBR expected".
And this debt is growing at an alarming rate.
"Underlying public sector debt was £1,268.7 billion for the year to the end of March, ahead of the £1,258 billion forecast last month by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), as central government receipts were lower than the OBR expected". And this debt is growing at an alarming rate. collos25
  • Score: -5

5:40pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Mike Strutter says...

Hypocrisy from the council here , how come they approved Keelham farm shops humongous 2nd turbine ?
Hypocrisy from the council here , how come they approved Keelham farm shops humongous 2nd turbine ? Mike Strutter
  • Score: 0

5:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

keelhambar says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Hypocrisy from the council here , how come they approved Keelham farm shops humongous 2nd turbine ?
Probably nobody spoke up at the Planning Panel meeting for consideration of that application.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Hypocrisy from the council here , how come they approved Keelham farm shops humongous 2nd turbine ?[/p][/quote]Probably nobody spoke up at the Planning Panel meeting for consideration of that application. keelhambar
  • Score: 0

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