£1m plan for retail, bar and eatery units in Victorian tunnels under Bradford city centre

£1m plan for retail, bar and eatery units in Victorian tunnels under Bradford city centre

Graham Hall (left) and Clinton Fitzpatrick

The tunnels under Sunbridge Road

Crates of soda siphons

Beer barrels betray the tunnels’ previous use as a nightclub

Work is ongoing to clear debris from the tunnels

Work is ongoing to clear debris from the tunnels

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Bradford looks set to get its first underground market – right in the heart of the city’s historic trading quarter.

An ambitious scheme is being finalised to create a Victorian-style complex featuring shops, bars and restaurants.

The £1m project is being privately funded but the developers are working closely with Bradford Council to bring the idea to life by Christmas 2015. And the aim is to make trading particularly attractive to young entrepreneurs.

Council leader David Green is today making his first visit to the site of The Tunnel, the working name for the development under Sunbridge Road from Aldermanbury. He described the scheme as “an exciting concept”.

Coun Green said: “The Council first looked at this a while ago and I am looking forward to actually seeing the site for myself for the first time.”

Graham Hall, of developers Sunbridge Wells, said: “This would be like a working museum of Victorian times.”

Teams are still digging out a 12,000sq ft area of part-leased, part-sold land which would create the underground complex. Mr Hall said about 200 tonnes of earth, rubble and timber had already been moved.

“We don’t know the full extent of what there is down there. We are finding all kinds of nooks and crannies,” he said.

With access from City Park and Sunbridge Road, the retail and leisure area would link to the Arndale Mall.

There would be Victorian-style units running along the tunnel’s internal street with a large glass area above. A courtyard would have an open plan glass and steel staircase leading to Upper Miller Gate. This would be designed to bring light to the tunnel system, covered by a Victorian-style atrium entrance and exit to the shopping area below.

Close to the Council’s art gallery, the Alhambra and various restaurants and bars, Mr Hall says The Tunnel is “an ideal area for new and existing businesses”.

“This will be great for Bradford,” he said, “with likely spin-offs for tourism.”

To help ambitious young businesspeople – the 18 to 30 age bracket – The Tunnel will feature flexible trading terms.

“Unit rents will be pitched to keep costs down,” said Mr Hall, “so people don’t have to lose a fortune if things don’t work out, but at least they will have had a go.

“We want to work with all of the businesses in Bradford to create a vibrant and exciting trading area and make Bradford thrive again.

“With new developments such as the Westfield shopping centre, this is now the time to promote and enhance the talent and vibrant potential which has always existed in this great city.”

Coun Green said: “The project is still in its early stages and we are not certain what the proposals will seek in terms of Council support. But, as we do with all proposals, we will look at this carefully and hopefully be able to support the idea.

“This is something which sounds exciting and that bit different for Bradford. We will continue to work with Sunbridge Wells to see if we can take this forward.”

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6:51am Tue 18 Mar 14

Albion. says...

I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m. Albion.
  • Score: 31

6:56am Tue 18 Mar 14

thelastmanstanding says...

Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops.
Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops. thelastmanstanding
  • Score: -62

7:09am Tue 18 Mar 14

collos25 says...

It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains. collos25
  • Score: -33

7:22am Tue 18 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

Any Links to maps of these please?
Any Links to maps of these please? Joedavid
  • Score: 40

7:30am Tue 18 Mar 14

futurethinking says...

The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early
to comment on this one.

This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c
om
The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early to comment on this one. This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c om futurethinking
  • Score: 98

7:40am Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

futurethinking wrote:
The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early
to comment on this one.

This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c

om
agreed, something different.
[quote][p][bold]futurethinking[/bold] wrote: The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early to comment on this one. This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c om[/p][/quote]agreed, something different. tinytoonster
  • Score: 57

7:59am Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center.

With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing.
Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center. With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -25

8:00am Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

futurethinking wrote:
The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early
to comment on this one.

This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c

om
Not unique, you must have been to the Dark Arches in Leeds. But still a very interesting project. I'd love to have a look at the site now and look forward to completion.
[quote][p][bold]futurethinking[/bold] wrote: The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early to comment on this one. This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c om[/p][/quote]Not unique, you must have been to the Dark Arches in Leeds. But still a very interesting project. I'd love to have a look at the site now and look forward to completion. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 36

8:11am Tue 18 Mar 14

Staffords Hairpiece says...

I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer? Staffords Hairpiece
  • Score: 52

8:25am Tue 18 Mar 14

PHILISAN says...

I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it.
I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it. PHILISAN
  • Score: 34

8:27am Tue 18 Mar 14

mad matt says...

There are old tunnels in most old industrial towns. Keighley started on a similar scheme a couple of years ago. Leeds has a lot more than just the Dark Arches, there are the old tramway tunnels which were constructed but never used.
There are old tunnels in most old industrial towns. Keighley started on a similar scheme a couple of years ago. Leeds has a lot more than just the Dark Arches, there are the old tramway tunnels which were constructed but never used. mad matt
  • Score: 12

8:29am Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down.
What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City.
The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down. What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City. alive and awake
  • Score: -9

8:30am Tue 18 Mar 14

Avro says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center.

With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing.
Worse still, the majority signed so far are simply moving from A to B
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center. With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing.[/p][/quote]Worse still, the majority signed so far are simply moving from A to B Avro
  • Score: -5

8:31am Tue 18 Mar 14

bd7 helper says...

tinytoonster wrote:
futurethinking wrote:
The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early
to comment on this one.

This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c


om
agreed, something different.
Where has the funding come from
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]futurethinking[/bold] wrote: The insufferable moaners woke up nice and early to comment on this one. This is a great idea, something unique to Bradford and I look forward to seeing it finished. Joe David, www.sunbridgewells.c om[/p][/quote]agreed, something different.[/p][/quote]Where has the funding come from bd7 helper
  • Score: 0

8:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

Avro says...

An exciting project, but the £1m budget is unlikely to complete it
An exciting project, but the £1m budget is unlikely to complete it Avro
  • Score: 20

8:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

ATracyM says...

Great idea,but surely ground level should be sorted first !
Great idea,but surely ground level should be sorted first ! ATracyM
  • Score: 12

8:43am Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Avro wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center.

With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing.
Worse still, the majority signed so far are simply moving from A to B
Thats why when they printed the boots story they locked down all comments.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Talking of shopping, it is 10 years to the day demolition of Broadway started. 18th March 2004 the bulldozers rolled in and here we are a decade later, no Mall and promises of the relocation of various shops from Darley Street and only 1 store that isn't in the City Center. With Bradford it's pie in the sky ideas all the time. Seeing is believing.[/p][/quote]Worse still, the majority signed so far are simply moving from A to B[/p][/quote]Thats why when they printed the boots story they locked down all comments. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -1

9:03am Tue 18 Mar 14

Eccybantam says...

Staffords Hairpiece wrote:
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
possibly cos there's no power supply
[quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]possibly cos there's no power supply Eccybantam
  • Score: -14

9:04am Tue 18 Mar 14

JAtkinson says...

What an excellent idea! Something exciting, vibrant and different, tailored towards start-ups rather than established names so Bradford can offer something other than the usual identikit fare.

Look forward to visiting.

BTW Dave Green is going down today - he said he'd share some photos (if he can get coverage down there or afterwards if not) which the excellent @hiddenbradford will be retweeting.
What an excellent idea! Something exciting, vibrant and different, tailored towards start-ups rather than established names so Bradford can offer something other than the usual identikit fare. Look forward to visiting. BTW Dave Green is going down today - he said he'd share some photos (if he can get coverage down there or afterwards if not) which the excellent @hiddenbradford will be retweeting. JAtkinson
  • Score: 23

9:05am Tue 18 Mar 14

Eccybantam says...

Staffords Hairpiece wrote:
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
I think it's because there isn't a power supply, I agree it would be a good idea
[quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]I think it's because there isn't a power supply, I agree it would be a good idea Eccybantam
  • Score: -4

9:06am Tue 18 Mar 14

matacaster says...

Errrm, anybody remember the city centre flooding, particularly the subways?
Errrm, anybody remember the city centre flooding, particularly the subways? matacaster
  • Score: 5

9:12am Tue 18 Mar 14

Pity Poor Bradford says...

I agree this is a great idea. It's something different to the usual shops, and if done right can be a great draw for the city.
I agree this is a great idea. It's something different to the usual shops, and if done right can be a great draw for the city. Pity Poor Bradford
  • Score: 14

9:22am Tue 18 Mar 14

Banni2 says...

thelastmanstanding wrote:
Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops.
I think your negative attitude to anything about the development of Bradford is just what keeps you going when you get up every morning. For once in your life try to be positive and move on.
[quote][p][bold]thelastmanstanding[/bold] wrote: Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops.[/p][/quote]I think your negative attitude to anything about the development of Bradford is just what keeps you going when you get up every morning. For once in your life try to be positive and move on. Banni2
  • Score: 32

9:22am Tue 18 Mar 14

Nick Harrison says...

I think that this is brilliant and would love to see it happen. Sadly, being realistic I cant see it happening and certainly not by 2015. It is one of those where I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I do however wonder about flooding? Bradford Beck is around there somewhere. There is a clue in the name, Sunbridge WELLS and it is in a vally bottom. Add these together and there is a recipe for disaster.

I do sincerely hope that this happens but lets concentrate of Broadway, the knock on effect on Darley Street when all the shops move into the new development and the isolation of North Parade. If there is a joined up plan to develop the whole of the city and to link areas then fantastic - sadly there is not a crackin track record on joined up thinking in Bradford
I think that this is brilliant and would love to see it happen. Sadly, being realistic I cant see it happening and certainly not by 2015. It is one of those where I would be happy to be proven wrong. I do however wonder about flooding? Bradford Beck is around there somewhere. There is a clue in the name, Sunbridge WELLS and it is in a vally bottom. Add these together and there is a recipe for disaster. I do sincerely hope that this happens but lets concentrate of Broadway, the knock on effect on Darley Street when all the shops move into the new development and the isolation of North Parade. If there is a joined up plan to develop the whole of the city and to link areas then fantastic - sadly there is not a crackin track record on joined up thinking in Bradford Nick Harrison
  • Score: 14

9:26am Tue 18 Mar 14

Banni2 says...

collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit ) Banni2
  • Score: 6

9:29am Tue 18 Mar 14

BD16 says...

PHILISAN wrote:
I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it.
Have a look at www.sunbridgewells.c
om futurethinking mentioned it earlier. They have a bit about the night club that you mentioned, apparently it was run by Shirley Crabtree, aka Big Daddy.
[quote][p][bold]PHILISAN[/bold] wrote: I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it.[/p][/quote]Have a look at www.sunbridgewells.c om futurethinking mentioned it earlier. They have a bit about the night club that you mentioned, apparently it was run by Shirley Crabtree, aka Big Daddy. BD16
  • Score: 9

10:22am Tue 18 Mar 14

Lynessman says...

Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity.

If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment.

This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused !
Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity. If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment. This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused ! Lynessman
  • Score: 24

10:23am Tue 18 Mar 14

JAtkinson says...

Regarding the flooding, wouldn't there be tide marks, crumbling, rotting walls and evidence of rotting timber, plaster, brick, steel and timber if the place was liable to flooding? If it's watertight now, I don't see how making making improvements will increase the likelihood of floods.
Regarding the flooding, wouldn't there be tide marks, crumbling, rotting walls and evidence of rotting timber, plaster, brick, steel and timber if the place was liable to flooding? If it's watertight now, I don't see how making making improvements will increase the likelihood of floods. JAtkinson
  • Score: 11

10:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

BigFigure says...

Great idea! Check out Youtube footage of what's down there.....a bit spooky at present,but obvious potential
Great idea! Check out Youtube footage of what's down there.....a bit spooky at present,but obvious potential BigFigure
  • Score: 9

10:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

trevorwilkie says...

I don't want to negative on this one, lets face it if somebody's trying something i'm all for it, as long as the rents are not too high it could be good.
About it only costing £1mil, over the years prices have gone through the roof, I think with the right costing this could be done for around that. Its still a lot of money.
On using the arches and other points around the city things can be done but once again it it's all about money.
So good luck
I don't want to negative on this one, lets face it if somebody's trying something i'm all for it, as long as the rents are not too high it could be good. About it only costing £1mil, over the years prices have gone through the roof, I think with the right costing this could be done for around that. Its still a lot of money. On using the arches and other points around the city things can be done but once again it it's all about money. So good luck trevorwilkie
  • Score: 10

10:38am Tue 18 Mar 14

alan8447 says...

The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.
The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed. alan8447
  • Score: 9

10:56am Tue 18 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

JAtkinson wrote:
Regarding the flooding, wouldn't there be tide marks, crumbling, rotting walls and evidence of rotting timber, plaster, brick, steel and timber if the place was liable to flooding? If it's watertight now, I don't see how making making improvements will increase the likelihood of floods.
What about getting out in any emergency?
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: Regarding the flooding, wouldn't there be tide marks, crumbling, rotting walls and evidence of rotting timber, plaster, brick, steel and timber if the place was liable to flooding? If it's watertight now, I don't see how making making improvements will increase the likelihood of floods.[/p][/quote]What about getting out in any emergency? Joedavid
  • Score: -2

11:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

Albion. says...

Lynessman wrote:
Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity.

If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment.

This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused !
Presumably "defiantly" should read definitely? Why is it fantastic news, nothing has happened yet? Why shouldn't people register their concerns or doubts? I doubt that comments on here make one jot of difference to the developer.
[quote][p][bold]Lynessman[/bold] wrote: Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity. If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment. This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused ![/p][/quote]Presumably "defiantly" should read definitely? Why is it fantastic news, nothing has happened yet? Why shouldn't people register their concerns or doubts? I doubt that comments on here make one jot of difference to the developer. Albion.
  • Score: 1

11:37am Tue 18 Mar 14

SinnerSaint says...

Lynessman wrote:
Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity.

If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment.

This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused !
Not sure how you can believe that a bit of moaning can cause a city to decline as dramatically as ours has. I think if you REALLY tried you could find much more tangible reasons why businesses don't want to trade here, shoppers don't want to shop here etc.

Give it a go, I'm all ears.
[quote][p][bold]Lynessman[/bold] wrote: Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity. If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment. This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused ![/p][/quote]Not sure how you can believe that a bit of moaning can cause a city to decline as dramatically as ours has. I think if you REALLY tried you could find much more tangible reasons why businesses don't want to trade here, shoppers don't want to shop here etc. Give it a go, I'm all ears. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 1

11:39am Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened.
Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?
Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened. Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City? alive and awake
  • Score: -2

12:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

collos25 says...

Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague. collos25
  • Score: -7

12:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BierleyBoy says...

Historically interesting, but commercially an absolute non starter. This would only happen with significant public subsidy to get the work done and to keep the place open.

Why is Green down there at all?
Historically interesting, but commercially an absolute non starter. This would only happen with significant public subsidy to get the work done and to keep the place open. Why is Green down there at all? BierleyBoy
  • Score: -8

12:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Albion. says...

Has anyone thought of walling it up while Dave's down there?
Has anyone thought of walling it up while Dave's down there? Albion.
  • Score: 4

12:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS. alive and awake
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Tue 18 Mar 14

linebacker2 says...

collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Pity you don't avoid this site like the plague
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Pity you don't avoid this site like the plague linebacker2
  • Score: 9

12:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

linebacker2 says...

Would be great to see this.

Out of interest, I wonder the the title deeds are for underground buildings? I guess land belongs to freeholder on the surface
Would be great to see this. Out of interest, I wonder the the title deeds are for underground buildings? I guess land belongs to freeholder on the surface linebacker2
  • Score: 4

12:28pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MrQuinque says...

alive and awake wrote:
collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS.
Exactly, you just have to look at Haworth road estate, sure the brick built semis are functional at best, but they are solidly built with decent ceiling heights and large gardens. If it had a rail spur it would probably have been gentrified by now, but instead the place is a nightmare.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS.[/p][/quote]Exactly, you just have to look at Haworth road estate, sure the brick built semis are functional at best, but they are solidly built with decent ceiling heights and large gardens. If it had a rail spur it would probably have been gentrified by now, but instead the place is a nightmare. MrQuinque
  • Score: 5

12:31pm Tue 18 Mar 14

flogem says...

We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop flogem
  • Score: -4

12:53pm Tue 18 Mar 14

schroeder says...

alan8447 wrote:
The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.
Unlicensed? so illegal then. Just like the Tradex?
[quote][p][bold]alan8447[/bold] wrote: The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.[/p][/quote]Unlicensed? so illegal then. Just like the Tradex? schroeder
  • Score: -4

12:55pm Tue 18 Mar 14

schroeder says...

In 2016 Bradford will be a great city again.
In 2016 Bradford will be a great city again. schroeder
  • Score: 8

1:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

SuttonGraeme says...

Good idea, the City needs some good ideas and hard working people, but I've got a feeling in years to come it will be filed alongside Odsal as the Wembley of the North, Superdome and the Shipley Tunnel
Good idea, the City needs some good ideas and hard working people, but I've got a feeling in years to come it will be filed alongside Odsal as the Wembley of the North, Superdome and the Shipley Tunnel SuttonGraeme
  • Score: 4

1:17pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

I see someone mentioned forster square and the arches there. Well there was an artists impression of that area in the T&A about 10 years ago with all them being shops, restuarants and other such things.

But like I said at the start seeing is believing.

Are the council still going to throw £1m at the walkway from kirkgate to westfield seeing as though the area of improvement will be empty as Boots, Topshop, M&S, Vodafone, H Samuels, etc will all have vacated by then.
I see someone mentioned forster square and the arches there. Well there was an artists impression of that area in the T&A about 10 years ago with all them being shops, restuarants and other such things. But like I said at the start seeing is believing. Are the council still going to throw £1m at the walkway from kirkgate to westfield seeing as though the area of improvement will be empty as Boots, Topshop, M&S, Vodafone, H Samuels, etc will all have vacated by then. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -1

1:17pm Tue 18 Mar 14

zakenterprises says...

Had a read of the article and If it can be done with a 1 million budget I would be amazed. I think it is a super idea and I have already registered my interest. I have been looking for a suitable unit for a while in Bradford and had given up on the idea and was actually looking at Leeds.

If this development does happen then I would deffinately be looking at a unit. My only concern would be what sort of businesses would they be looking to attract? With this sort of development and it's history would you look at leasing a unit to a burger bar? or a cheap pound shop? I think further down the line there should be some clarification on the types of businesses they would be looking to attract.
Had a read of the article and If it can be done with a 1 million budget I would be amazed. I think it is a super idea and I have already registered my interest. I have been looking for a suitable unit for a while in Bradford and had given up on the idea and was actually looking at Leeds. If this development does happen then I would deffinately be looking at a unit. My only concern would be what sort of businesses would they be looking to attract? With this sort of development and it's history would you look at leasing a unit to a burger bar? or a cheap pound shop? I think further down the line there should be some clarification on the types of businesses they would be looking to attract. zakenterprises
  • Score: 5

1:21pm Tue 18 Mar 14

zakenterprises says...

flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
[quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments. zakenterprises
  • Score: 13

1:30pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

MrQuinque wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS.
Exactly, you just have to look at Haworth road estate, sure the brick built semis are functional at best, but they are solidly built with decent ceiling heights and large gardens. If it had a rail spur it would probably have been gentrified by now, but instead the place is a nightmare.
It is, but not the worst by a long way, 3rd generation idiots to blame, compulsory re-education needed, with an exam at the end to turn these morons into decent citizens.
[quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Quite right, it's not the buildings or the fabric of a place that make it what it is, it's the people. ALL of the Council estates (flats aside) were built to a very high spec indeed, much higher than the private estates, it's the dross that run them down. just like this City is run down, not by the people talking it down or appearing negative. IT'S THE DROSS.[/p][/quote]Exactly, you just have to look at Haworth road estate, sure the brick built semis are functional at best, but they are solidly built with decent ceiling heights and large gardens. If it had a rail spur it would probably have been gentrified by now, but instead the place is a nightmare.[/p][/quote]It is, but not the worst by a long way, 3rd generation idiots to blame, compulsory re-education needed, with an exam at the end to turn these morons into decent citizens. alive and awake
  • Score: 3

1:30pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BierleyBoy says...

zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford? BierleyBoy
  • Score: 4

1:33pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

zakenterprises wrote:
Had a read of the article and If it can be done with a 1 million budget I would be amazed. I think it is a super idea and I have already registered my interest. I have been looking for a suitable unit for a while in Bradford and had given up on the idea and was actually looking at Leeds.

If this development does happen then I would deffinately be looking at a unit. My only concern would be what sort of businesses would they be looking to attract? With this sort of development and it's history would you look at leasing a unit to a burger bar? or a cheap pound shop? I think further down the line there should be some clarification on the types of businesses they would be looking to attract.
Well get off your backside, get a big shovel, and dig yourself a big hole.
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: Had a read of the article and If it can be done with a 1 million budget I would be amazed. I think it is a super idea and I have already registered my interest. I have been looking for a suitable unit for a while in Bradford and had given up on the idea and was actually looking at Leeds. If this development does happen then I would deffinately be looking at a unit. My only concern would be what sort of businesses would they be looking to attract? With this sort of development and it's history would you look at leasing a unit to a burger bar? or a cheap pound shop? I think further down the line there should be some clarification on the types of businesses they would be looking to attract.[/p][/quote]Well get off your backside, get a big shovel, and dig yourself a big hole. alive and awake
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mr Perks says...

Banni2 wrote:
thelastmanstanding wrote:
Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops.
I think your negative attitude to anything about the development of Bradford is just what keeps you going when you get up every morning. For once in your life try to be positive and move on.
I'd love to see the city centre thriving, it's hard to be positive when all we've had is a litany of mismanagement and schemes that never become realised.

I like to see the £200,000 that the council lent to the Bulls used to help fund this, if/when it's repaid!
[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelastmanstanding[/bold] wrote: Just what Bradford needs... More empty shops.[/p][/quote]I think your negative attitude to anything about the development of Bradford is just what keeps you going when you get up every morning. For once in your life try to be positive and move on.[/p][/quote]I'd love to see the city centre thriving, it's hard to be positive when all we've had is a litany of mismanagement and schemes that never become realised. I like to see the £200,000 that the council lent to the Bulls used to help fund this, if/when it's repaid! Mr Perks
  • Score: 9

1:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

zakenterprises says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers. zakenterprises
  • Score: 12

1:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
You've a nerve!
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]You've a nerve! alive and awake
  • Score: 3

1:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

knox615 says...

zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
Well said. Nice to see someone with an open-minded and positive attitude contributing on here.
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]Well said. Nice to see someone with an open-minded and positive attitude contributing on here. knox615
  • Score: 8

2:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

basil fawlty says...

A really interesting project that I hope comes off. I'm sure at least some of the space can be brought back to life.
A really interesting project that I hope comes off. I'm sure at least some of the space can be brought back to life. basil fawlty
  • Score: 12

2:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MissL1 says...

Interesting idea but I think Bradford could spend £1 million pounds helping the families struggling to eat let alone shop
Interesting idea but I think Bradford could spend £1 million pounds helping the families struggling to eat let alone shop MissL1
  • Score: -11

2:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Albion. says...

MissL1 wrote:
Interesting idea but I think Bradford could spend £1 million pounds helping the families struggling to eat let alone shop
The funding is private...........So far!
[quote][p][bold]MissL1[/bold] wrote: Interesting idea but I think Bradford could spend £1 million pounds helping the families struggling to eat let alone shop[/p][/quote]The funding is private...........So far! Albion.
  • Score: 7

2:44pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.
It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

3:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

schroeder wrote:
alan8447 wrote:
The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.
Unlicensed? so illegal then. Just like the Tradex?
Not at all, unlicensed not illegal.

NOT LICENSED TO SELL ALCOHOL
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan8447[/bold] wrote: The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.[/p][/quote]Unlicensed? so illegal then. Just like the Tradex?[/p][/quote]Not at all, unlicensed not illegal. NOT LICENSED TO SELL ALCOHOL Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 14

3:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.
Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.[/p][/quote]Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there. alive and awake
  • Score: 2

3:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.
Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.
Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.[/p][/quote]Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.[/p][/quote]Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

3:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with?
Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

4:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rumb7e says...

All for vision, to have never dreamed or tried would be a great shame.

To every challenge there is a solution. Passing trade is a huge potential.

I always thought a niche, quirky area to Bradford is missing.
All for vision, to have never dreamed or tried would be a great shame. To every challenge there is a solution. Passing trade is a huge potential. I always thought a niche, quirky area to Bradford is missing. Rumb7e
  • Score: 10

4:14pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Meerkat33 says...

I hope they pull this off. I'm 36 and never knew these existed until I saw the post of the forum! I mentioned this to my dad the other day and he said he remebers going in there when he was young.
I hope they pull this off. I'm 36 and never knew these existed until I saw the post of the forum! I mentioned this to my dad the other day and he said he remebers going in there when he was young. Meerkat33
  • Score: 3

4:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down.
What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City.
Did you get permission from the owner or were you trespassing?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down. What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City.[/p][/quote]Did you get permission from the owner or were you trespassing? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 0

5:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

linebacker2 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with?
You were beginning to sound sensible, then you started yet another anti-Tory rant
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with?[/p][/quote]You were beginning to sound sensible, then you started yet another anti-Tory rant linebacker2
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

linebacker2 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with?
You were beginning to sound sensible, then you started yet another anti-Tory rant
So it's not the Tory posters that are talking this scheme down? It certainly looks like it to me. But then again I've only been posting on here for just over 4 years so what would I know?
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: Why are the Tory posters so against the idea of existing buildings/structures being brought back to life? Is there some brown envelope activity down at the lodge that the revival of existing infrastructure would interfere with?[/p][/quote]You were beginning to sound sensible, then you started yet another anti-Tory rant[/p][/quote]So it's not the Tory posters that are talking this scheme down? It certainly looks like it to me. But then again I've only been posting on here for just over 4 years so what would I know? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -5

6:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened.
Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?
"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field.

The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism"
http://www.thetruths
eeker.co.uk/?p=12028
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened. Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?[/p][/quote]"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field. The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism" http://www.thetruths eeker.co.uk/?p=12028 RollandSmoke
  • Score: -4

7:24pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bantambhoy says...

collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Talking about the plague, rats as big as cats spring to mind!
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Talking about the plague, rats as big as cats spring to mind! Bantambhoy
  • Score: 5

8:19pm Tue 18 Mar 14

lazybeat says...

All propositions are welcomed. its better than what Bradford council has done over the last decade. At least there are idea being put on the table now.
All propositions are welcomed. its better than what Bradford council has done over the last decade. At least there are idea being put on the table now. lazybeat
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Tue 18 Mar 14

collos25 says...

linebacker2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
Banni2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.
That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )
Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.
Pity you don't avoid this site like the plague
Here speaks the voice of intelligence or is the word stupid idiot.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: It will save the dross that hangs about in the city centre from getting wet when it rains.[/p][/quote]That's great news for Bradford. ( by the way don't forget to take your raincoat when you visit the next time you visit )[/p][/quote]Like most people these days I avoid the city centre like the plague.[/p][/quote]Pity you don't avoid this site like the plague[/p][/quote]Here speaks the voice of intelligence or is the word stupid idiot. collos25
  • Score: -9

8:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened.
Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?
"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field.

The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism"
http://www.thetruths

eeker.co.uk/?p=12028
LOL strong stuff tonight eh!
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened. Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?[/p][/quote]"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field. The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism" http://www.thetruths eeker.co.uk/?p=12028[/p][/quote]LOL strong stuff tonight eh! alive and awake
  • Score: 2

8:41pm Tue 18 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.
Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.
Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage.
Is that Simon the Trespasser.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.[/p][/quote]Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.[/p][/quote]Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage.[/p][/quote]Is that Simon the Trespasser. alive and awake
  • Score: -2

9:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bradford56 says...

Lynessman wrote:
Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity.

If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment.

This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused !
Here here! Fantastic opportunity for our City and we should all be in full support of this!
[quote][p][bold]Lynessman[/bold] wrote: Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity. If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment. This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused ![/p][/quote]Here here! Fantastic opportunity for our City and we should all be in full support of this! Bradford56
  • Score: 7

9:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened.
Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?
"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field.

The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism"
http://www.thetruths


eeker.co.uk/?p=12028
LOL strong stuff tonight eh!
If you were not interested in the answer why did you bother asking the question? You are aware that the quotation marks and the link are there because it's not me saying it aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened. Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?[/p][/quote]"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field. The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism" http://www.thetruths eeker.co.uk/?p=12028[/p][/quote]LOL strong stuff tonight eh![/p][/quote]If you were not interested in the answer why did you bother asking the question? You are aware that the quotation marks and the link are there because it's not me saying it aren't you? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -3

9:21pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bradford56 says...

zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
At last someone with some positive thoughts about Bradford, rather than the usual idiots who frequent on here, pulling our city to pieces and referring to the usual BORING racism. This could really improve our city centre footfall and bring something totally different to the centre. Quit the negativity once and for all, and for those of you that continue to put our city down, stop reading the T&A and bog off to Leeds or somewhere that makes you feel more comfortable with your negative and miserable little lives!!
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]At last someone with some positive thoughts about Bradford, rather than the usual idiots who frequent on here, pulling our city to pieces and referring to the usual BORING racism. This could really improve our city centre footfall and bring something totally different to the centre. Quit the negativity once and for all, and for those of you that continue to put our city down, stop reading the T&A and bog off to Leeds or somewhere that makes you feel more comfortable with your negative and miserable little lives!! Bradford56
  • Score: 5

10:22pm Tue 18 Mar 14

queenyfan says...

The Westfield development will at best, be the same as any other shopping offer in the country, so why not try to be a bit different. It would be hard to achieve, not the least being the problem of turning round negative Bradfordians, but a different kind of idea, a new iniative, with unique vision could be just what we need in our City. Link it all up to the developed Odeon, and we have a chance. A national museum, the City Park, a newish hotel, and you never know. Leeds used to have the Granary Wharf which in the mid 90s was busy and vibrant every weekend, and had lots of really unique shops etc. Then they got greedy, jacked up the rents, made it so it was not worth the shops being there, so they left.
Marketed correctly and with the right kind of shops, bars,eateries etched, and this could be really exciting. Maybe Bradfords last big chance.
The Westfield development will at best, be the same as any other shopping offer in the country, so why not try to be a bit different. It would be hard to achieve, not the least being the problem of turning round negative Bradfordians, but a different kind of idea, a new iniative, with unique vision could be just what we need in our City. Link it all up to the developed Odeon, and we have a chance. A national museum, the City Park, a newish hotel, and you never know. Leeds used to have the Granary Wharf which in the mid 90s was busy and vibrant every weekend, and had lots of really unique shops etc. Then they got greedy, jacked up the rents, made it so it was not worth the shops being there, so they left. Marketed correctly and with the right kind of shops, bars,eateries etched, and this could be really exciting. Maybe Bradfords last big chance. queenyfan
  • Score: 11

10:28pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.
Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.
Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage.
Is that Simon the Trespasser.
He was interviewed on BBC Radio Leeds today as they do with all "trespassers". The interview is here:
https://www.hulkshar
e.com/simonsugden/su
nbridge-wells-projec
t-live-interview-bbc
-radio-leeds-18th-ma
rch
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: It would appear that my good friend, photographer and urban explorer Simon Paul Sugden's photographs have alerted these developers to the presence of these tunnels although I'm aware that other urban explorers have been down there. He has only been doing his photography for the past 4-5 years and is already developing a great reputation for his work. Well played that man and keep on pointing that camera at the forgotten and neglected places, hopefully more developers will see the potential in what we have rather than always wanting to tear things down and replace them with non-descript modern buildings.[/p][/quote]Prowling about in other peoples property. Does the owner know? I call it trespass. Send the dogs in while Green is down there.[/p][/quote]Wherever possible he seeks permission from the owners as he did when he photographed inside the Connaught rooms. There are times where the owner is not traceable. I would personally think that anyone who owns a derelict property should have a legal requirement to be contactable. The fact that they are not is the problem not the likes of Simon who often will not declare the exact location of his photos in order to protect the building from curious eyes that may do more than take photographs. He doesn't break in and he does no damage.[/p][/quote]Is that Simon the Trespasser.[/p][/quote]He was interviewed on BBC Radio Leeds today as they do with all "trespassers". The interview is here: https://www.hulkshar e.com/simonsugden/su nbridge-wells-projec t-live-interview-bbc -radio-leeds-18th-ma rch RollandSmoke
  • Score: -4

11:03pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

Bradford56 wrote:
Lynessman wrote:
Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity.

If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment.

This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused !
Here here! Fantastic opportunity for our City and we should all be in full support of this!
Yes please will someone put Albion out of his misery at 6:30am each morning, lol.
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynessman[/bold] wrote: Part of the reason Bradford has declined is defiantly the moaning and negative people that live here and build a downward spiral of negativity. If i was the developer and read the comments above I would say - why bother and I will go spend my £1m in a town that wants my investment. This is fantastic news and should be celebrated not abused ![/p][/quote]Here here! Fantastic opportunity for our City and we should all be in full support of this![/p][/quote]Yes please will someone put Albion out of his misery at 6:30am each morning, lol. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 5

11:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

dizzilizzie says...

alan8447 wrote:
The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.
Ahh happy memories of the Cat.
[quote][p][bold]alan8447[/bold] wrote: The tunnels were used as a disco/night club around early 70's. it was called The Little Fat Black **** Cat Club. It was unlicensed and featured mainly northern soul recorded music, but occasionally had live bands and 'all-nighters'. Rod Stewart played there regularly before his days with The Faces. Others I remember that played there were Long John Baldry, Zoot Money, Georgie Fame, Alan Price etc. Pauline Matthews was a regular attender. I think that it became a plumbers store after it closed.[/p][/quote]Ahh happy memories of the Cat. dizzilizzie
  • Score: 8

11:11pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened.
Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?
"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field.

The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism"
http://www.thetruths

eeker.co.uk/?p=12028
Wow. Is this true? Wow. I'm impressed with your knowledge. That is if you're not making it up like Albion does first thing in the morning. Albion our resident **** O'North, lol Albion wakes us all up first with his negative **** a doodle do first thing in the morn, lol
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Whilst you are talking about this, you are forgetting about Westfield, and the rest of the existing City that will die a death when its opened. Why is it called Westfield? it's in the east of the City?[/p][/quote]"The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field. The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism" http://www.thetruths eeker.co.uk/?p=12028[/p][/quote]Wow. Is this true? Wow. I'm impressed with your knowledge. That is if you're not making it up like Albion does first thing in the morning. Albion our resident **** O'North, lol Albion wakes us all up first with his negative **** a doodle do first thing in the morn, lol CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 1

7:17am Wed 19 Mar 14

Albion. says...

CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
[quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll. Albion.
  • Score: 0

7:43am Wed 19 Mar 14

Walruss says...

PHILISAN wrote:
I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it.
It was officially The Little Black Fat **** Cat.
[quote][p][bold]PHILISAN[/bold] wrote: I remember going to such a musical venue with my mates in the 'swinging sixties' think it was called the Black **** Cat or something similar...Certainly accessed near Sunwin House and below Sunbridge Road..sort of Bradford's version of Liverpool's Cavern Club! Wonderful early years in bygone Bradford..loved it.[/p][/quote]It was officially The Little Black Fat **** Cat. Walruss
  • Score: 3

8:10am Wed 19 Mar 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

I hope this project is a success because Bradford needs something to bring life back into the City Centre.

It worked with Leeds Victorian Quarter so we have to be positive about this.

There is still a lot of money in Bradford but at the moment it is all being spent in retail outlets in Leeds.
I hope this project is a success because Bradford needs something to bring life back into the City Centre. It worked with Leeds Victorian Quarter so we have to be positive about this. There is still a lot of money in Bradford but at the moment it is all being spent in retail outlets in Leeds. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 3

9:04am Wed 19 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
I hope this project is a success because Bradford needs something to bring life back into the City Centre.

It worked with Leeds Victorian Quarter so we have to be positive about this.

There is still a lot of money in Bradford but at the moment it is all being spent in retail outlets in Leeds.
It wouldn't surprise me if most of the money in Bradford is drug money, and unlikely to find itself into the local economy.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: I hope this project is a success because Bradford needs something to bring life back into the City Centre. It worked with Leeds Victorian Quarter so we have to be positive about this. There is still a lot of money in Bradford but at the moment it is all being spent in retail outlets in Leeds.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if most of the money in Bradford is drug money, and unlikely to find itself into the local economy. alive and awake
  • Score: 0

10:16am Wed 19 Mar 14

SinnerSaint says...

Albion. wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you.

What a nice chap.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.[/p][/quote]Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you. What a nice chap. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 0

11:21am Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

Albion. wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
Oh 7:17am today. Oh a bit late today are we. Clock didn't go off at 6:30am today or were Ethel and Hilda having a lie in ?

What's wrong ? You like leaving negative and pi55 taking comments. Don't like it when pi55 is taken out of you? Negativity is all you ever spout night and day. So here it is ol' Alby, a toast to you. Enjoy my negativity too.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.[/p][/quote]Oh 7:17am today. Oh a bit late today are we. Clock didn't go off at 6:30am today or were Ethel and Hilda having a lie in ? What's wrong ? You like leaving negative and pi55 taking comments. Don't like it when pi55 is taken out of you? Negativity is all you ever spout night and day. So here it is ol' Alby, a toast to you. Enjoy my negativity too. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 3

11:25am Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Albion. wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you.

What a nice chap.
I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.[/p][/quote]Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you. What a nice chap.[/p][/quote]I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 3

12:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

pokertee says...

Eccybantam wrote:
Staffords Hairpiece wrote:
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
I think it's because there isn't a power supply, I agree it would be a good idea
Checked into this some time ago making small shops and one into a mini open air music venue. There is actually electricity there already but it would have to be upgraded but that's not why they don't use it. Its just that no one has come up with the money to make them go for it.
[quote][p][bold]Eccybantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]I think it's because there isn't a power supply, I agree it would be a good idea[/p][/quote]Checked into this some time ago making small shops and one into a mini open air music venue. There is actually electricity there already but it would have to be upgraded but that's not why they don't use it. Its just that no one has come up with the money to make them go for it. pokertee
  • Score: 3

12:56pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Stanglienne says...

I love this idea! That side of town, with the tunnels and a redeveloped Odeon, would be a lovely "indie" counterweight to the big multinationals operating out of Westfield and encourage footfall throughout the whole city centre. Good luck to the developers, I sincerely hope they can get it off (under??) the ground!
I love this idea! That side of town, with the tunnels and a redeveloped Odeon, would be a lovely "indie" counterweight to the big multinationals operating out of Westfield and encourage footfall throughout the whole city centre. Good luck to the developers, I sincerely hope they can get it off (under??) the ground! Stanglienne
  • Score: 3

1:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

SinnerSaint says...

CharleyVarrick wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
Albion. wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you.

What a nice chap.
I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me.
You're much more coherent this morning Charlie. How's the head?
[quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.[/p][/quote]Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you. What a nice chap.[/p][/quote]I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me.[/p][/quote]You're much more coherent this morning Charlie. How's the head? SinnerSaint
  • Score: -2

2:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
Albion. wrote:
CharleyVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.
Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol
What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more.
I'm not against the project at all.
The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.
Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you.

What a nice chap.
I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me.
You're much more coherent this morning Charlie. How's the head?
It was good thank you. Your wife seems to know what she's doing. Lol lol.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharleyVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine that being completed for £1m.[/p][/quote]Albion (of oh I don't live in Bradford but like to come on here each morning to put it down fame) can't imagine you not being on here Misery guts. What's wrong couldn't you sleep again or was "Ethel" or "Hilda" not able to give you your daily w4nk this morning again? Lol[/p][/quote]What is wrong with questioning the stated funding? I think it will cost more. I'm not against the project at all. The rest of your comment is the usual disgusting provocation that we have come to expect from a pathetic troll.[/p][/quote]Obviously he doesn't have a wife to abuse when he gets home from the pub so he decided he'd abuse you. What a nice chap.[/p][/quote]I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine. He like negativity so he can have some more courtesy of me and if you don't behave tonight instead of the wife it'll be you next. If you can't leave positive comments about our town then face the music from the likes of me.[/p][/quote]You're much more coherent this morning Charlie. How's the head?[/p][/quote]It was good thank you. Your wife seems to know what she's doing. Lol lol. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 0

6:47pm Wed 19 Mar 14

SinnerSaint says...

If you want to pretend that a pox ridden brass you paid a fiver for on Lumb Lane is my Mrs then you're more retarded than I gave you credit for ****nuts.
If you want to pretend that a pox ridden brass you paid a fiver for on Lumb Lane is my Mrs then you're more retarded than I gave you credit for ****nuts. SinnerSaint
  • Score: -1

7:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

flogem says...

zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society.
[quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society. flogem
  • Score: 0

8:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.
Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good. bcfc1903
  • Score: 5

8:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.
dream on
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.[/p][/quote]dream on alive and awake
  • Score: -4

8:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

alive and awake wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.
dream on
Hardly!!!!
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.[/p][/quote]dream on[/p][/quote]Hardly!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 3

8:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.
Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good. bcfc1903
  • Score: 6

11:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

flogem wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society.
Yes, those horrid horrid white people that go running to the nearest estate agents as soon as an Asian family move next door. Those horrid 'integraters' who run off to their ghettos in Ilkley, wibsey, Thornton, thackley, wrose, Greengates, Ravenscliffe, Holmewood, Buttershaw, Wyke, Scholes, Birkenshaw, etc etc, shall we carry on ? Oh those horrid white ghetto blasters, **** them. I say give em a **** good thrashing. ....
[quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society.[/p][/quote]Yes, those horrid horrid white people that go running to the nearest estate agents as soon as an Asian family move next door. Those horrid 'integraters' who run off to their ghettos in Ilkley, wibsey, Thornton, thackley, wrose, Greengates, Ravenscliffe, Holmewood, Buttershaw, Wyke, Scholes, Birkenshaw, etc etc, shall we carry on ? Oh those horrid white ghetto blasters, **** them. I say give em a **** good thrashing. .... CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 2

11:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

flogem wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
zakenterprises wrote:
flogem wrote:
We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop
This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.
Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?
Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better.

We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated?

It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.
Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society.
Yes, those horrid horrid white people that go running to the nearest estate agents as soon as an Asian family move next door. Those horrid 'integraters' who run off to their ghettos in Ilkley, wibsey, Thornton, thackley, wrose, Greengates, Ravenscliffe, Holmewood, Buttershaw, Wyke, Scholes, Birkenshaw, etc etc, shall we carry on ? Oh those horrid white ghetto blasters, **** them. I say give em a **** good thrashing. ....
[quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zakenterprises[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: We could be the first city to have an underground mosque and sari shop[/p][/quote]This is what I love about Bradford, the hidden agendas and the inuendos. it does make you proud to be a Bradfordian when we have dipsticks like this making such childish comments.[/p][/quote]Hidden agendas? Like what? The Islamification of Bradford?[/p][/quote]Oh please...... for once there is some positive news and we have people like you turning it in to an us and them debate. For crying out lout. Bradford is a multicultural city and the sooner some people realise this the better. We have people from all faiths living here and contributing to the city, so why make it in to something it's not? You obviously have issues and if that's the case why dont you toodle off to a place where you will be tolerated? It's 2014 and still we have people with mindsets like this. I just wish we could concentrate on the positives instead of being bitter and twisted and pointing fingers.[/p][/quote]Oh its certainly a multicultural city,its just a pity people will not integrate instead of forming ghettos,but wanting all the benefits of an open society.[/p][/quote]Yes, those horrid horrid white people that go running to the nearest estate agents as soon as an Asian family move next door. Those horrid 'integraters' who run off to their ghettos in Ilkley, wibsey, Thornton, thackley, wrose, Greengates, Ravenscliffe, Holmewood, Buttershaw, Wyke, Scholes, Birkenshaw, etc etc, shall we carry on ? Oh those horrid white ghetto blasters, **** them. I say give em a **** good thrashing. .... CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 2

11:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
If you want to pretend that a pox ridden brass you paid a fiver for on Lumb Lane is my Mrs then you're more retarded than I gave you credit for ****nuts.
Now now Shytter Saint, let's not be talking about your dear good lady like that. She knows what she likes and knows how to. You did ask. Don't like the answer, don't ask the question, lol lol.

Mate I'd get lost if I were you otherwise I'll shame you up on here so badly you'll be a Saint that shytes snow, lol lol.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: If you want to pretend that a pox ridden brass you paid a fiver for on Lumb Lane is my Mrs then you're more retarded than I gave you credit for ****nuts.[/p][/quote]Now now Shytter Saint, let's not be talking about your dear good lady like that. She knows what she likes and knows how to. You did ask. Don't like the answer, don't ask the question, lol lol. Mate I'd get lost if I were you otherwise I'll shame you up on here so badly you'll be a Saint that shytes snow, lol lol. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: -2

11:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

Staffords Hairpiece wrote:
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool !
[quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool ! bobbyo
  • Score: 2

12:03am Thu 20 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

Staffords Hairpiece wrote:
I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool !
[quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool ! bobbyo
  • Score: 2

12:04am Thu 20 Mar 14

bradfordlad2 says...

matacaster wrote:
Errrm, anybody remember the city centre flooding, particularly the subways?
I remember flooding on Thornton Road, at crossroads bottom of Odeon, and also earlier, Foster Sq.
Dont fancy entrance being near city park, but Sunbridge Rd good, also seem to recall an underground cafe near Odeon, where there should be some drawings left, by David Hockney, who frequented there early in his youth. Bradford is full of great things, and we need to see all these, and stop slating this multi cultural city, and start being pround of our City, for a change.
[quote][p][bold]matacaster[/bold] wrote: Errrm, anybody remember the city centre flooding, particularly the subways?[/p][/quote]I remember flooding on Thornton Road, at crossroads bottom of Odeon, and also earlier, Foster Sq. Dont fancy entrance being near city park, but Sunbridge Rd good, also seem to recall an underground cafe near Odeon, where there should be some drawings left, by David Hockney, who frequented there early in his youth. Bradford is full of great things, and we need to see all these, and stop slating this multi cultural city, and start being pround of our City, for a change. bradfordlad2
  • Score: 11

1:02am Thu 20 Mar 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

bobbyo wrote:
Staffords Hairpiece wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?
Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool !
They pulled down the original Cavern and made the one that is there too but the Americans think its all good so fine.
[quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Staffords Hairpiece[/bold] wrote: I like the idea and hope it happens. I have often wondered why the arches that you pass when you walk from the Midland Hotel to Forster Square railway station can't be put to some use. I would think that the acoustics would make them ideal for musical events - so why not arrange small concerts/gigs there during the warm, light nights of summer?[/p][/quote]Like the famous cavern club in Liverpool ![/p][/quote]They pulled down the original Cavern and made the one that is there too but the Americans think its all good so fine. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Thu 20 Mar 14

mrs walker says...

If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down.

I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate.
If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down. I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate. mrs walker
  • Score: 7

1:23pm Thu 20 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

mrs walker wrote:
If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down.

I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate.
Well said Mrs W!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down. I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate.[/p][/quote]Well said Mrs W!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 7

2:47pm Thu 20 Mar 14

RollandSmoke says...

I'm disgusted to see that the posts calling for people to be positive about
Bradford have received thumbs down. Would any of the spineless thumbers wish to explain their reasoning? Why should we not speak with pride about our City? What's your agenda and where would you like to see things going if you've no appetite for improvement?
I'm disgusted to see that the posts calling for people to be positive about Bradford have received thumbs down. Would any of the spineless thumbers wish to explain their reasoning? Why should we not speak with pride about our City? What's your agenda and where would you like to see things going if you've no appetite for improvement? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Thu 20 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
I'm disgusted to see that the posts calling for people to be positive about
Bradford have received thumbs down. Would any of the spineless thumbers wish to explain their reasoning? Why should we not speak with pride about our City? What's your agenda and where would you like to see things going if you've no appetite for improvement?
The likes of Albion and ShysterSaint. I wouldn't worry about them mate. Carry on, you're doing a wonderful job regardless of what shyster and shyster think. Who gives a monkeys chuff what prejudiced bafoons like that think anyway.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I'm disgusted to see that the posts calling for people to be positive about Bradford have received thumbs down. Would any of the spineless thumbers wish to explain their reasoning? Why should we not speak with pride about our City? What's your agenda and where would you like to see things going if you've no appetite for improvement?[/p][/quote]The likes of Albion and ShysterSaint. I wouldn't worry about them mate. Carry on, you're doing a wonderful job regardless of what shyster and shyster think. Who gives a monkeys chuff what prejudiced bafoons like that think anyway. CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Thu 20 Mar 14

CharleyVarrick says...

mrs walker wrote:
If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down.

I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate.
Yes. Good on ya Mrs W. Well said Ma'am!!!
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: If this could go ahead, with a revamped Odeon, and the new Westfield and our existing Puddle int' Middle (which I confess I hated the idea of at first!) we stand a good chance of reinvigorating our city centre, though we would need to promote it as a desirable destination across Yorkshire and even across the Pennines to non-Tykes! And to do this, to turn around our city's fortunes, we all need to be advocates of Bradford and the positive aspects of our city, and call out the people that bring it down. I like it here, and I'm pleased that things are changing. I'll be an advocate.[/p][/quote]Yes. Good on ya Mrs W. Well said Ma'am!!! CharleyVarrick
  • Score: 6

7:02pm Fri 21 Mar 14

sunbridgewells says...

Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight.
In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business.
It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER.
In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place.
Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight. In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business. It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER. In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place. sunbridgewells
  • Score: 2

8:24pm Fri 21 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

sunbridgewells wrote:
Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight.
In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business.
It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER.
In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place.
Good luck, some excellent schemes are being both acted on and proposed in Bradford this year. Will be interesting to see how this unusual and quirky scheme looks when completed. Good to see the city being invested in and moving forward again!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sunbridgewells[/bold] wrote: Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight. In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business. It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER. In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place.[/p][/quote]Good luck, some excellent schemes are being both acted on and proposed in Bradford this year. Will be interesting to see how this unusual and quirky scheme looks when completed. Good to see the city being invested in and moving forward again!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 4

4:44pm Sat 22 Mar 14

mrs walker says...

sunbridgewells wrote:
Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight.
In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business.
It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER.
In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place.
Love the idea, and looking forward to it happening but as a grammar and spelling pedant, could I ask you to correct the typos on your webpages please (if you're not too busy!)
[quote][p][bold]sunbridgewells[/bold] wrote: Could alan8447 get in touch with please. We would greatly appreciate his insight. In regards to all that has been mentioned above i would like to clarify some areas. Sunbridgewells will be open by Christmas 2014 not 2015. We as the developers are from Bradford and reside locally and due to this we are going to engage Bradford tradesman throughout the development and we envision making this for our young entrepreneurs 18-30's, to experience the running and setting up their own business. It certainly seems that everyone has an input, but if you don't try you will never know. There maybe many skeptics and doubters, but we ask of those you fall into this category if they have ever experienced setting up and running their own businesses EVER. In hindsight, we are amazed by the positivity of the population of Bradford who continue to support our campaign to make Bradford a better place.[/p][/quote]Love the idea, and looking forward to it happening but as a grammar and spelling pedant, could I ask you to correct the typos on your webpages please (if you're not too busy!) mrs walker
  • Score: -1

10:01am Sun 23 Mar 14

RED65 says...

alive and awake wrote:
The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down.
What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City.
There is a tunnel that runs from canal road 3 mile to esholt problem is it carries sewage.
I once came across a site on the internet that had loads of information on some of the tunnels and passageways that are beneath large parts of the city centre,not been able to find it since.but i hope this project gets finished.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: The budget is no where near big enough so it wont happen, how can you budget when comments like " we don't know what exactly is down there " Well I do because I have been down. What about the tunnel from Canal Road that goes right in to Shipley, or the one from Bradford City Centre that goes right up to Westgate hill Tong Street? It sounds like these out of towners are just discovering our once wonderful City.[/p][/quote]There is a tunnel that runs from canal road 3 mile to esholt problem is it carries sewage. I once came across a site on the internet that had loads of information on some of the tunnels and passageways that are beneath large parts of the city centre,not been able to find it since.but i hope this project gets finished. RED65
  • Score: -2

7:47pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good.
Seems a very good idea, I'm sure once it's up and running it will be a visitor attraction. I quite like the idea having something that is out of the ordinary. Should fit in well with Westfield, the Odeon refurbishment, the regeneration at the bottom of Manchester Road and other Bradford regeneration schemes yet to be announced. It's all good. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

3:49pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Kryz1958 says...

This sounds like a fantastic idea...I have visions of The Stables in Camden town....if this is done well it should be vibrant and exciting.....as long as there is some sort of negativity filter at the main entrance..... My concern is the 18-30 age restriction....I'm 56 and just starting an art venture, this would be a brilliant opportunity to get off the ground....Is this age limit exclusive? Good luck with the concept....
This sounds like a fantastic idea...I have visions of The Stables in Camden town....if this is done well it should be vibrant and exciting.....as long as there is some sort of negativity filter at the main entrance..... My concern is the 18-30 age restriction....I'm 56 and just starting an art venture, this would be a brilliant opportunity to get off the ground....Is this age limit exclusive? Good luck with the concept.... Kryz1958
  • Score: 0

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