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Bradford Council is urged to spend its reserves

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Bradford Council is urged to spend its reserves Bradford Council is urged to spend its reserves

Council bosses have been condemned for sitting on “loads of spare cash” while preparing to make drastic cuts and raise council tax for the second year running.

Bradford Council’s reserves now stand at a £99.6 million – the highest figure of West Yorkshire councils. Schools in the district collectively have a further £41m in the bank.

The authority has yet to set council tax for the year but it has suggested a 1.6 per cent rise, following last year’s 1.99 per cent hike. Yesterday, Chancellor George Osborne said Council chiefs “had some explaining to do”, while pressure group The TaxPayers’ Alliance branded the situation “absolutely preposterous”.

Bradford Council is expected to spend some of its unallocated reserves over the next two years, but it has not yet said how much. The Labour administration has long argued that most of its reserves cash cannot be used to plug funding gaps because it is ‘allocated’ for specific projects or purposes.

But opposition councillors claim some of these allocations are more than a decade old and the cash should be freed up.

Councillor Howard Middleton, the Liberal Democrats group chief whip and an accountant, said some of the allocated reserves had been set aside and left unspent since he joined the Council in 1996.

He said: “Some of these things have been there for a number of years and they’ve never been used. There’s no immediate likelihood they’re going to be used in the near future.”

He gave the example of a £2 million pot, which is set aside each year for any VAT payments the authority may have to make, but had never been spent to his knowledge.

Coun Middleton said his party had been calling for a review of all allocated reserves for years.

Labour insisted it was on top of the issue, that a full review of allocations had very recently been carried out and that the results would be published on Monday.

But Dia Chakravarty, political director of the TaxPayers’ Alliance, was scathing with her criticism.

She said: “It is absolutely preposterous that Bradford Council has the gall to propose a further tax rise.”

Speaking during a visit to the area yesterday, Mr Osborne said: ”I think Bradford Council has some explaining to do if they are sitting on these reserves. What are they sitting on them for? If they’re not using them they’ve got to explain to people why they are imposing cuts when they could be drawing on reserves.

“Ultimately it’s not for a national politician to come along and hold them to account. It’s local people who can hold the Council to account because it is democratically elected and can be democratically rejected.”

Councillor Glen Miller, leader of the Council’s Conservative group, accused the Labour-run authority of building up “slush funds” for pet projects.

He said: “I have always said this authority has loads of spare cash. They continue to over-tax the residents of this district, to then blame central Government.”

But Councillor Imran Hussain (Lab), deputy leader of Bradford Council, said reserves could only be spent once and to suggest they could be used to stave off huge Government cuts was “crass and irresponsible”.

He said: “We've already reviewed reserves to see what can be made available to support the transition to much lower levels of spending in the face of massive, disproportionate Government cuts. The recommendations are published on Monday.”

Bradford Council’s draft budget proposals – including controversial cuts to the youth service, public toilets and mobile libraries – have now been out to public consultation.

The final proposals will be revealed on Tuesday, February 18, ahead of the budget-setting meeting on Thursday, February 20.

Meanwhile, Ilkley Parish Council is to increase its Council Tax precept for the average household by 22 per cent, as it commits £20,000 to Tour de France preparations and raises awards and projects spending. The Council agreed a £185,600 budget for 2014-15 – including a £160,093 charge to Ilkley taxpayers. This will see a Band D Property go from paying £19.60 to £24.04 a year.

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7:20am Fri 7 Feb 14

Albion. says...

How about, they carry on making cuts and give the council tax payers a rebate? (those of them who've paid that is).
How about, they carry on making cuts and give the council tax payers a rebate? (those of them who've paid that is). Albion.
  • Score: 11

7:20am Fri 7 Feb 14

Joedavid says...

Something strange here as it rather different to what I have always thought.
That was
Conservatives saved money.
Labour spent money.
Something strange here as it rather different to what I have always thought. That was Conservatives saved money. Labour spent money. Joedavid
  • Score: 13

7:26am Fri 7 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Cllr David Green making excuses on twitter regarding the cutting of councillors. Pathetic excuses like it takes 2 years to happen as some like of reason for it not being done.
No answers to why union funding is ringfenced when staff subs should cover the cost. Some pathetic attempt to suggest without council funding the unions would leave their members high and dry.
Lies lies lies as usual.
Cllr David Green making excuses on twitter regarding the cutting of councillors. Pathetic excuses like it takes 2 years to happen as some like of reason for it not being done. No answers to why union funding is ringfenced when staff subs should cover the cost. Some pathetic attempt to suggest without council funding the unions would leave their members high and dry. Lies lies lies as usual. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 8

8:47am Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then Andy2010
  • Score: 2

8:56am Fri 7 Feb 14

angry bradfordian says...

I'm sure I remember 2 or 3 years ago the council saying they were making cuts to services to build up a reserve to spend when the bigger cuts happened in future. Now they are saying they can't spent the reserves because they aren't sustainable!

Makes you wonder if they are keeping it until after the next General Election to show how much better life under a Labour government would be.
I'm sure I remember 2 or 3 years ago the council saying they were making cuts to services to build up a reserve to spend when the bigger cuts happened in future. Now they are saying they can't spent the reserves because they aren't sustainable! Makes you wonder if they are keeping it until after the next General Election to show how much better life under a Labour government would be. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 11

9:06am Fri 7 Feb 14

JAtkinson says...

ConDem Government cuts funding so northern councils have to plug the gap with reserves (earmarked for improving their communities), then bleat about it when the councils push back, arguing that, once it's spent, it's spent. Once spent, there will still be the central government created shortfall and then they will be able to say, "Well, you squandered all your reserves so why should we bail you out?"

Tories claim they are good for business: which business would survive by using its reserves to cover day-to-day costs?

More punishment of the north by millionaire southerners in government.
ConDem Government cuts funding so northern councils have to plug the gap with reserves (earmarked for improving their communities), then bleat about it when the councils push back, arguing that, once it's spent, it's spent. Once spent, there will still be the central government created shortfall and then they will be able to say, "Well, you squandered all your reserves so why should we bail you out?" Tories claim they are good for business: which business would survive by using its reserves to cover day-to-day costs? More punishment of the north by millionaire southerners in government. JAtkinson
  • Score: 1

9:27am Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections. alive and awake
  • Score: 6

9:39am Fri 7 Feb 14

collos25 says...

Lets not forget central government would give BMDC a substantial amount of cash if it did not raise council tax, what does a labour council do forgoes this money and raises council tax as well as cutting services perhaps if they cut the number of councillors stamped down hard on fraud they would be able to a rebate instead of an increase.Cllr Green is so good with money he authorised the loan to BBs of 200k which will never be seen again don't forget this man and his corrupt crew are running this cities finances I bet none of them have to worry again were the next meal is coming from.
Lets not forget central government would give BMDC a substantial amount of cash if it did not raise council tax, what does a labour council do forgoes this money and raises council tax as well as cutting services perhaps if they cut the number of councillors stamped down hard on fraud they would be able to a rebate instead of an increase.Cllr Green is so good with money he authorised the loan to BBs of 200k which will never be seen again don't forget this man and his corrupt crew are running this cities finances I bet none of them have to worry again were the next meal is coming from. collos25
  • Score: 4

9:45am Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

alive and awake wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
I agree it is a disgrace. I wouldnt mind paying the tax if I could see things improving or being provided for in Bradford but theres nothing and things just get worse.

Couple this with the fact BDMC are the worst performing at collection of council tax in the north of England and once again its the hard working folk who pay this tax year on year and use very few of the services propping up the workshy who contribute nothing and use all the services.

There is nothing in Bradford for hardworking people with disposable income to benefit from. The schools are terrible as are the other services we pay for. In fact I'd be better giving my tax to Leeds Council as I spend more time and money there and enjoy more of their services.

On a sidenote though one thing that Bradford does do right in my opinion is refuse collection. I simply cannot knock it on comparison to other districts.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections.[/p][/quote]I agree it is a disgrace. I wouldnt mind paying the tax if I could see things improving or being provided for in Bradford but theres nothing and things just get worse. Couple this with the fact BDMC are the worst performing at collection of council tax in the north of England and once again its the hard working folk who pay this tax year on year and use very few of the services propping up the workshy who contribute nothing and use all the services. There is nothing in Bradford for hardworking people with disposable income to benefit from. The schools are terrible as are the other services we pay for. In fact I'd be better giving my tax to Leeds Council as I spend more time and money there and enjoy more of their services. On a sidenote though one thing that Bradford does do right in my opinion is refuse collection. I simply cannot knock it on comparison to other districts. Andy2010
  • Score: 10

10:09am Fri 7 Feb 14

Albion. says...

alive and awake wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections.[/p][/quote]Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities? Albion.
  • Score: 4

10:10am Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Albion. wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?
Not really if the tax payers are seeing investment and improvements in services. Alas this isnt happening in Bradford
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections.[/p][/quote]Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?[/p][/quote]Not really if the tax payers are seeing investment and improvements in services. Alas this isnt happening in Bradford Andy2010
  • Score: -1

10:22am Fri 7 Feb 14

Albion. says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?
Not really if the tax payers are seeing investment and improvements in services. Alas this isnt happening in Bradford
But they get less from central government because they have increased council tax? Everywhere is experiencing cuts, look at Wakefield, the council is wanting to close a five year old market hall because their new shopping centre has killed it (exactly as predicted here with Westfield). Once Westfield is built, other nearby towns (with the exception of Leeds) won't be significantly better than Bradford in retail or manufacturing. The REAL reason that they prove to be more inviting is because they have a lower ratio of foreigners.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections.[/p][/quote]Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?[/p][/quote]Not really if the tax payers are seeing investment and improvements in services. Alas this isnt happening in Bradford[/p][/quote]But they get less from central government because they have increased council tax? Everywhere is experiencing cuts, look at Wakefield, the council is wanting to close a five year old market hall because their new shopping centre has killed it (exactly as predicted here with Westfield). Once Westfield is built, other nearby towns (with the exception of Leeds) won't be significantly better than Bradford in retail or manufacturing. The REAL reason that they prove to be more inviting is because they have a lower ratio of foreigners. Albion.
  • Score: 4

10:48am Fri 7 Feb 14

Katiery says...

George Osbourne and Glenn Miller think it is preposterous that there is a large reserve ? Were they saying that when the Conservative Party was leading the Council? I don't remember Glenn Miller thinking it was preposterous when his party was in control.

I doubt that these reserves have all accumulated in the last 4 years, so what were the Tory Party doing with the moeny when they were in control? Nothing!

Now the Con/Dems are hitting councils with huge cuts they decide to mention and be surprised by the reserve account. The same account that was very much unmentioned during the Tory leadership. How convenient!
George Osbourne and Glenn Miller think it is preposterous that there is a large reserve ? Were they saying that when the Conservative Party was leading the Council? I don't remember Glenn Miller thinking it was preposterous when his party was in control. I doubt that these reserves have all accumulated in the last 4 years, so what were the Tory Party doing with the moeny when they were in control? Nothing! Now the Con/Dems are hitting councils with huge cuts they decide to mention and be surprised by the reserve account. The same account that was very much unmentioned during the Tory leadership. How convenient! Katiery
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

The cuts are required, the city i a mess, the council come up with one hair-brained regeneration scheme after another, spend millions on consultants and artists impressions, but then fail to secure investment and the who thing is just money down the drain. All the time they're sitting on nearly £100 million or reserves that could have made a MASSIVE difference to the city, but don't spend it.

As a council tax payer I expect my council tax to be spent on the city, not sat in a bank account gathering dust.

Whilst we're at it, can the T&A investigate where all the £3billion regeneration fund has been spent please.
The cuts are required, the city i a mess, the council come up with one hair-brained regeneration scheme after another, spend millions on consultants and artists impressions, but then fail to secure investment and the who thing is just money down the drain. All the time they're sitting on nearly £100 million or reserves that could have made a MASSIVE difference to the city, but don't spend it. As a council tax payer I expect my council tax to be spent on the city, not sat in a bank account gathering dust. Whilst we're at it, can the T&A investigate where all the £3billion regeneration fund has been spent please. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 8

12:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

allinittogether says...

Katiery wrote:
George Osbourne and Glenn Miller think it is preposterous that there is a large reserve ? Were they saying that when the Conservative Party was leading the Council? I don't remember Glenn Miller thinking it was preposterous when his party was in control.

I doubt that these reserves have all accumulated in the last 4 years, so what were the Tory Party doing with the moeny when they were in control? Nothing!

Now the Con/Dems are hitting councils with huge cuts they decide to mention and be surprised by the reserve account. The same account that was very much unmentioned during the Tory leadership. How convenient!
I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: George Osbourne and Glenn Miller think it is preposterous that there is a large reserve ? Were they saying that when the Conservative Party was leading the Council? I don't remember Glenn Miller thinking it was preposterous when his party was in control. I doubt that these reserves have all accumulated in the last 4 years, so what were the Tory Party doing with the moeny when they were in control? Nothing! Now the Con/Dems are hitting councils with huge cuts they decide to mention and be surprised by the reserve account. The same account that was very much unmentioned during the Tory leadership. How convenient![/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. allinittogether
  • Score: 0

12:21pm Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Albion. wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then
If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected.
This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out.
Roll o the next elections.
Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?
Yes it is a disgrace if it is going up in other authorities, they all can cut back on waste.
I do agree with the reader that the waste collection is pretty good, but the council tips/recycling centres are a joke.
As for chasing up non payment of Council tax, they go for the easy targets as usual.
Is it true that any "house of prayer" do not pay rates at all.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: With so much money in reserve there should be no need for increase in council tax then[/p][/quote]If Council tax goes up again, it will be an utter disgrace, if not unexpected. This has got to be the worst Council in the Country. WE are special needs, come on Cameron send in the cavalry to sort things out. Roll o the next elections.[/p][/quote]Is it a disgrace that it's going up in most of the surrounding authorities?[/p][/quote]Yes it is a disgrace if it is going up in other authorities, they all can cut back on waste. I do agree with the reader that the waste collection is pretty good, but the council tips/recycling centres are a joke. As for chasing up non payment of Council tax, they go for the easy targets as usual. Is it true that any "house of prayer" do not pay rates at all. alive and awake
  • Score: 6

12:29pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Katiery says...

allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon. Katiery
  • Score: -4

1:59pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BertSanders says...

It is aways wise to keep a reserve - whether corporate or personal.
It seems a lot of money and I am hopeful that the Council will be able to hold
council tax at current levels.
It is aways wise to keep a reserve - whether corporate or personal. It seems a lot of money and I am hopeful that the Council will be able to hold council tax at current levels. BertSanders
  • Score: 2

2:13pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BertSanders says...

11.3 m is to come from the reserve of £99.6m in the projected budget.
In current circumstances I would have thought they could afford to be a little more generous. Lets hope so.
11.3 m is to come from the reserve of £99.6m in the projected budget. In current circumstances I would have thought they could afford to be a little more generous. Lets hope so. BertSanders
  • Score: 8

3:21pm Fri 7 Feb 14

theoutsider says...

This better not be right Greeny !
This better not be right Greeny ! theoutsider
  • Score: -2

3:49pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Yorkshire Lass says...

Political points scoring here instead of taking the bull by the horns and sorting the City finances out once and for all. Sitting on £99 million pounds is obscene to say the least and why are the schools sitting on a further £41 million when the council always have the begging bowl out? As I presume this is public money I think some effort should be made to say just how it has been accumulated, what gain is made on it, and exactly what is in the pipeline in the future for spending plans. Obviously there needs some reserves for emergencies but I cannot think of anything that could justify spending all of this money on one go. Come on Council we are, and have faced cutbacks on everything from disabled, special needs, elderly, and many other things which are really essential services. You certainly are a disgrace and I hope that there is a massive turn out in the local election to prove how people feel, but I will not hold my breath.
Political points scoring here instead of taking the bull by the horns and sorting the City finances out once and for all. Sitting on £99 million pounds is obscene to say the least and why are the schools sitting on a further £41 million when the council always have the begging bowl out? As I presume this is public money I think some effort should be made to say just how it has been accumulated, what gain is made on it, and exactly what is in the pipeline in the future for spending plans. Obviously there needs some reserves for emergencies but I cannot think of anything that could justify spending all of this money on one go. Come on Council we are, and have faced cutbacks on everything from disabled, special needs, elderly, and many other things which are really essential services. You certainly are a disgrace and I hope that there is a massive turn out in the local election to prove how people feel, but I will not hold my breath. Yorkshire Lass
  • Score: 3

3:49pm Fri 7 Feb 14

allinittogether says...

Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people. allinittogether
  • Score: -1

4:16pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess Andy2010
  • Score: 3

5:08pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BierleyBoy says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Cllr David Green making excuses on twitter regarding the cutting of councillors. Pathetic excuses like it takes 2 years to happen as some like of reason for it not being done.
No answers to why union funding is ringfenced when staff subs should cover the cost. Some pathetic attempt to suggest without council funding the unions would leave their members high and dry.
Lies lies lies as usual.
Cllr Green knows very well a change in councillor numbers can be done much quicker. It can be done inside 12 months. The fact is he doesn't want to see a cut so will lie about the process. More about Labour losing influence than saving £390k for council tax payers.

http://www.taxpayers
alliance.com/grassro
ots/2013/12/bradford
-council-reduce-numb
er-councillors.html

Also lied bout union staff funding. He says the £500k schools spend doesn't come from Bradford Council, but it does.
Cutting councillor numbers and union staff would save over £1m a year, but it's not good for the Labour party so it won't happen.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Cllr David Green making excuses on twitter regarding the cutting of councillors. Pathetic excuses like it takes 2 years to happen as some like of reason for it not being done. No answers to why union funding is ringfenced when staff subs should cover the cost. Some pathetic attempt to suggest without council funding the unions would leave their members high and dry. Lies lies lies as usual.[/p][/quote]Cllr Green knows very well a change in councillor numbers can be done much quicker. It can be done inside 12 months. The fact is he doesn't want to see a cut so will lie about the process. More about Labour losing influence than saving £390k for council tax payers. http://www.taxpayers alliance.com/grassro ots/2013/12/bradford -council-reduce-numb er-councillors.html Also lied bout union staff funding. He says the £500k schools spend doesn't come from Bradford Council, but it does. Cutting councillor numbers and union staff would save over £1m a year, but it's not good for the Labour party so it won't happen. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BierleyBoy says...

JAtkinson wrote:
ConDem Government cuts funding so northern councils have to plug the gap with reserves (earmarked for improving their communities), then bleat about it when the councils push back, arguing that, once it's spent, it's spent. Once spent, there will still be the central government created shortfall and then they will be able to say, "Well, you squandered all your reserves so why should we bail you out?"

Tories claim they are good for business: which business would survive by using its reserves to cover day-to-day costs?

More punishment of the north by millionaire southerners in government.
You lose your argument as soon as you say only northern councils are being cut. What are the reserves at Bradford Council earmarked for?

if there were not such a reckless wasting of money there would be a surplus of income and lower council tax.

Bradford Labour council won't cut union funding or councillor numbers, yet will sack frontline staff whilst sitting on such huge amounts of cash. Bradford schools are in the top five worst performing in the country, but are sat on £41m in cash.

All we get from Green & labour is how it's always the government's fault, but the evidence shows it's not the case.
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: ConDem Government cuts funding so northern councils have to plug the gap with reserves (earmarked for improving their communities), then bleat about it when the councils push back, arguing that, once it's spent, it's spent. Once spent, there will still be the central government created shortfall and then they will be able to say, "Well, you squandered all your reserves so why should we bail you out?" Tories claim they are good for business: which business would survive by using its reserves to cover day-to-day costs? More punishment of the north by millionaire southerners in government.[/p][/quote]You lose your argument as soon as you say only northern councils are being cut. What are the reserves at Bradford Council earmarked for? if there were not such a reckless wasting of money there would be a surplus of income and lower council tax. Bradford Labour council won't cut union funding or councillor numbers, yet will sack frontline staff whilst sitting on such huge amounts of cash. Bradford schools are in the top five worst performing in the country, but are sat on £41m in cash. All we get from Green & labour is how it's always the government's fault, but the evidence shows it's not the case. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 2

5:29pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Katiery says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
I do not think anything will be different under a Labour Government. Currently the Labour leaders are floundering around without a clue, though I don't agree that they got us into the mess that the Tories are so vocal about.

The banking crisis started the mess, bailing them out added to it and the Tory obsession with cutting everything and selling off the NHS has exacerbated it to the point that people are in far more dire straights now than they ever were.

My point isn't that Labour will magically make everything better but that the Con/Dem alliance is happy to ignore their own mistakes, their spending cuts and the money they wasted locally but can be outraged at everyone else. George Osbourn's comments are a joke!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess[/p][/quote]I do not think anything will be different under a Labour Government. Currently the Labour leaders are floundering around without a clue, though I don't agree that they got us into the mess that the Tories are so vocal about. The banking crisis started the mess, bailing them out added to it and the Tory obsession with cutting everything and selling off the NHS has exacerbated it to the point that people are in far more dire straights now than they ever were. My point isn't that Labour will magically make everything better but that the Con/Dem alliance is happy to ignore their own mistakes, their spending cuts and the money they wasted locally but can be outraged at everyone else. George Osbourn's comments are a joke! Katiery
  • Score: 2

6:15pm Fri 7 Feb 14

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich
They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess[/p][/quote]I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance! allinittogether
  • Score: 4

7:28pm Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich
They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance!
Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude.
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess[/p][/quote]I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance![/p][/quote]Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude. alive and awake
  • Score: -1

7:42pm Fri 7 Feb 14

allinittogether says...

alive and awake wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich
They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance!
Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude.
Do you really think that the public have no seen Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith etc as the lapdogs of the city and corporations they are.
They are out next year and I hope never to sully Westminster again.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess[/p][/quote]I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance![/p][/quote]Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude.[/p][/quote]Do you really think that the public have no seen Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith etc as the lapdogs of the city and corporations they are. They are out next year and I hope never to sully Westminster again. allinittogether
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

allinittogether wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Katiery wrote:
allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories.

Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note!

I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015.
I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.
yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they....

Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies.

Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess
I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich
They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance!
Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude.
Do you really think that the public have no seen Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith etc as the lapdogs of the city and corporations they are.
They are out next year and I hope never to sully Westminster again.
LOL. Is that the best you can do? What's your thoughts on the Rev. Flowers and Ed Balls connection, do you remember when Ed Balls was Education Minister? Laugh a minute, if it wasn't so serious. Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others.
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: allinittogether says...I don't disagree with your points but surely reserves are for contingencies and rainy days and, let's face it, it's pouring down now thanks to the Tories. Isn't it! But if the Labour controlled council spent the reserves the Tories would instantly be whining that Labour are wasting the public's money. They conveniently forget that the huge hole in the centre of Bradford was caused by the Tory crazy idea. The consultants and artists and other paraphenalia which wasted vast sums was all done when the council was under Tory control - with a Lib/Dem alliance. No mention of that by LibDem Cllr. Howard Middleton I note! I prefer MY council tax payments to be spent in Keighley, not on filling gaps in Bradford left by the useless Tories, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Ideally the council could spend some of the reserves, reduce the ravages of the cuts and then vote the toxic parties out in 2015. I can't wait for Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith et al to get their come-uppance next year; vile vile people.[/p][/quote]yeah because things will be ooohhh so different under a Labour government wont they.... Your forgetting who got us all into this mess in the first place through their economic and immigration policies. Still its easier to blame the cleaner than the person who made the mess[/p][/quote]I think causing a global financial meltdown was beyond the scope of just one political party don't you? It's how we put it back together again that matters and true to form the tories have used the opportunity to peddle their ideologies at the expense of everyone but the rich They will get their come-uppance next year and good riddance![/p][/quote]Are you totally deluded, Labour have 0 chance of winning the election, Ed Milliband "joke" Union puppet, Ed Balls, well in with the Rev Flowers (say no more), most of the rest keeping their heads down for obvious reasons, most of the shadow cabinet gone awol The whole Labour team totally exposed for their ineptitude.[/p][/quote]Do you really think that the public have no seen Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Duncan-Smith etc as the lapdogs of the city and corporations they are. They are out next year and I hope never to sully Westminster again.[/p][/quote]LOL. Is that the best you can do? What's your thoughts on the Rev. Flowers and Ed Balls connection, do you remember when Ed Balls was Education Minister? Laugh a minute, if it wasn't so serious. Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others. alive and awake
  • Score: -3

8:06pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Katiery says...

alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others.

You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,
alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others. You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals, Katiery
  • Score: 5

9:04pm Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Katiery wrote:
alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others.

You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,
Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans.
Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers?
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others. You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,[/p][/quote]Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans. Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers? alive and awake
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Katiery says...

alive and awake wrote:
Katiery wrote:
alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others.

You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,
Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans.
Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers?
I think you are confusing communism with socialism, easily done by a Tory, though what the feet of the Koreans have to do with anything is beyond me.

Is the last sentence a puzzle? I'll bite - I don't know, what IS the connection between Ed Balls ans The Revd. Flowers? ?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others. You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,[/p][/quote]Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans. Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers?[/p][/quote]I think you are confusing communism with socialism, easily done by a Tory, though what the feet of the Koreans have to do with anything is beyond me. Is the last sentence a puzzle? I'll bite - I don't know, what IS the connection between Ed Balls ans The Revd. Flowers? ? Katiery
  • Score: 3

8:54am Sat 8 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Katiery wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
Katiery wrote:
alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others.

You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,
Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans.
Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers?
I think you are confusing communism with socialism, easily done by a Tory, though what the feet of the Koreans have to do with anything is beyond me.

Is the last sentence a puzzle? I'll bite - I don't know, what IS the connection between Ed Balls ans The Revd. Flowers? ?
oops souls, too much brandy and port I'm afraid and by the way socialism is the child of communism.
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: alive and awake says... Tory ideologies are far better than Communist ideologies, Ask the good people of China, Russia, and all the others. You are the deluded one alive and awake, if you really believe that the money grabbing,snide, sniping self centred morons of the Tory Government are the way forward. Only if you are a multi-millionaire with no morals,[/p][/quote]Give over, ask the old Russians, or the poor old Chinese, and the poor soles of North Korea. You will never find a bigger bully than a socialist one. Oh what about the poor Cubans. Still I can't stop asking the question, What is the connection between Ed Balls and the Rev Flowers?[/p][/quote]I think you are confusing communism with socialism, easily done by a Tory, though what the feet of the Koreans have to do with anything is beyond me. Is the last sentence a puzzle? I'll bite - I don't know, what IS the connection between Ed Balls ans The Revd. Flowers? ?[/p][/quote]oops souls, too much brandy and port I'm afraid and by the way socialism is the child of communism. alive and awake
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2:01am Sun 9 Feb 14

MrQuinque says...

The council should only spend its reserves on assets for the city which will bring both financial gains and increase Bradford's prestige. The proposed city centre pool would be a prime example of this, instead of one which provides no greater facilities than Shipley pool the council should build a state of the art leisure complex on the Forster Square royal mail site. With full olympic standard swimming and diving pools, a recreational aquatic centre as large and well designed as any in the country, Gym, studios, climbing walls etc etc etc.

Such a project would, I'm sure, attract support and investment from the University, would put Bradford high up on a very short list of cities which have such facilities (not to mention it would be much easier to access than the 50m pool in Leeds being right next to a train station) and it would free up Richard Dunns for redevelopment into something else which could grab headlines for the city, like a full sized (250m) outdoor velodrome and the largest outdoor skatepark in UK/Europe/World.

If they decided on it quickly enough they could even announce it before the Grand Depart and grab a few headlines and just maybe a few extra votes at the local election.
The council should only spend its reserves on assets for the city which will bring both financial gains and increase Bradford's prestige. The proposed city centre pool would be a prime example of this, instead of one which provides no greater facilities than Shipley pool the council should build a state of the art leisure complex on the Forster Square royal mail site. With full olympic standard swimming and diving pools, a recreational aquatic centre as large and well designed as any in the country, Gym, studios, climbing walls etc etc etc. Such a project would, I'm sure, attract support and investment from the University, would put Bradford high up on a very short list of cities which have such facilities (not to mention it would be much easier to access than the 50m pool in Leeds being right next to a train station) and it would free up Richard Dunns for redevelopment into something else which could grab headlines for the city, like a full sized (250m) outdoor velodrome and the largest outdoor skatepark in UK/Europe/World. If they decided on it quickly enough they could even announce it before the Grand Depart and grab a few headlines and just maybe a few extra votes at the local election. MrQuinque
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