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Objections over large turbine plans for Denholme

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Anthea Orchard says there is a lot of strong feeling in the area over the proposal Anthea Orchard says there is a lot of strong feeling in the area over the proposal

Plans for a 45-metre high turbine high on the moors at Denholme have sparked an outcry by anti-windfarm campaigners.

Bradford Council has received an application for the turbine at Denholme Business Centre on Halifax Road.

The centre, which can house up to 38 businesses, was granted permission for a 1,000 panel solar farm on a neighbouring field. And that green initiative was broadly welcomed.

The application says the turbine “will provide sufficient electricity to meet the growing needs of the Business Centre once fully occupied by tenants and to generate income to support the further renovation and development of the site”.

But the proposal to install the turbine is a step too far, says Anthea Orchard of the Thornton Moor Windfarm Action Group. She said: “There’s hell going on about this. As a group we didn’t object to the solar panels – now we find out they’re going for a turbine as well.”

“And it’s not one of the small ones. The post is 30 metres high and the diameter of the blades is 30 metres so that makes for 45 metres from top to bottom.”

Mrs Orchard said plans for a wind turbine had not been mentioned in previous discussions with one of Denholme Business Centre’s owners, Bradford solicitor Iqbal Singh Sekhon.

And she said that the new application would be strongly opposed.

However Mr Sekhon said that while Denholme Business Park had not supported other windfarm proposals, the aim had always been to create the Bradford district’s first totally green industrial site.

He said: “Our site supports hundreds of jobs and people will be able to say on their products that they have been made with green power.

“We have done impact visualisations and the turbine will be in a sympathetic grey colour, not bright white, so it will blend in with the surroundings.”

Denholme Mayor Steve Nunn said residents had already approached him with concerns about the proposal.

“The main issue for people seems to be that existing turbines are all in areas where there are already structures such as metal pylons,” he said.

He said the matter was due to be discussed at the next full meeting of Denholme town council on Tuesday, January 21.

Mr Sekhon said he would be “delighted” to attend the meeting as Denholme Business Centre has worked successfully with the council and community.

Bradford Council planners are due to make a decision on the Denholme turbine next month.

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6:13am Thu 9 Jan 14

Saltaire Bantam says...

They should build them next to Stonehenge instead.
They should build them next to Stonehenge instead. Saltaire Bantam
  • Score: -2

7:07am Thu 9 Jan 14

Albion. says...

Would the objectors prefer a power station?
Would the objectors prefer a power station? Albion.
  • Score: 3

7:22am Thu 9 Jan 14

Golzy84 says...

I live in oxenhope and used to live in Denholme and would much prefer wind turbines than the destruction of the ozone layer or nuclear energy. Times are changing and its sbout time these people realise that we have to have alteernative engery sources. 1 wind turbine is not going to destroy the lanscape. We have to think to the future
I live in oxenhope and used to live in Denholme and would much prefer wind turbines than the destruction of the ozone layer or nuclear energy. Times are changing and its sbout time these people realise that we have to have alteernative engery sources. 1 wind turbine is not going to destroy the lanscape. We have to think to the future Golzy84
  • Score: 6

7:50am Thu 9 Jan 14

angry bradfordian says...

"She said: “There’s hell going on about this."

She dead right. I live in nearby Keelham, overlooking Ogden, The Farm Shop and many other turbines in the area. Most my neighbours don't have any problems with them and only "have hell on" because they're sick of this very vocal minority who think they're speaking for everyone in the area.
After having read yet another of their whinges I'm minded to go on the planning website and support the application.

I'd be interested to know what these protesters are suggesting as an alternative and what they're doing to reduce the nation's energy requirement. Or as Albion says, are they expecting a new power station in somebody else's backyard.
"She said: “There’s hell going on about this." She dead right. I live in nearby Keelham, overlooking Ogden, The Farm Shop and many other turbines in the area. Most my neighbours don't have any problems with them and only "have hell on" because they're sick of this very vocal minority who think they're speaking for everyone in the area. After having read yet another of their whinges I'm minded to go on the planning website and support the application. I'd be interested to know what these protesters are suggesting as an alternative and what they're doing to reduce the nation's energy requirement. Or as Albion says, are they expecting a new power station in somebody else's backyard. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 8

10:06am Thu 9 Jan 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Personally I think turbines look great. They're elegant and are more appealing because you know they are a good, green, energy source.

I just wish people would come clean and say that all they are concerned about is their house prices!
Personally I think turbines look great. They're elegant and are more appealing because you know they are a good, green, energy source. I just wish people would come clean and say that all they are concerned about is their house prices! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 1

10:12am Thu 9 Jan 14

Bone_idle18 says...

I may have missed something, but there seems to be no mention of why this group are objecting?

If it's anything like other objections, then 90% of the reasons will be plain daft, and the other 10% unfounded.
I may have missed something, but there seems to be no mention of why this group are objecting? If it's anything like other objections, then 90% of the reasons will be plain daft, and the other 10% unfounded. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 7

11:12am Thu 9 Jan 14

Saltaire Bantam says...

They shouldn't be allowed to build them out in the countryside. They wouldn't be allowed to build any other type of building out there. They should build them in industrial estates or by the coast in docking areas where they won't be such an eyesore. Or better still build them out to sea, over the horizon where you can't see them. The UK is surrounded by shallow sea which is suitable for them.
They shouldn't be allowed to build them out in the countryside. They wouldn't be allowed to build any other type of building out there. They should build them in industrial estates or by the coast in docking areas where they won't be such an eyesore. Or better still build them out to sea, over the horizon where you can't see them. The UK is surrounded by shallow sea which is suitable for them. Saltaire Bantam
  • Score: 0

11:21am Thu 9 Jan 14

Albion. says...

Saltaire Bantam wrote:
They shouldn't be allowed to build them out in the countryside. They wouldn't be allowed to build any other type of building out there. They should build them in industrial estates or by the coast in docking areas where they won't be such an eyesore. Or better still build them out to sea, over the horizon where you can't see them. The UK is surrounded by shallow sea which is suitable for them.
"The centre, which can house up to 38 businesses, was granted permission for a 1,000 panel solar farm on a neighbouring field. And that green initiative was broadly welcomed.

The application says the turbine “will provide sufficient electricity to meet the growing needs of the Business Centre once fully occupied by tenants and to generate income to support the further renovation and development of the site”.
Well it might not quite be an "industrial estate" it is a business park and this (along with the solar panels) would allow it to produce it's own energy. Isn't that at least worthy of serious consideration?
[quote][p][bold]Saltaire Bantam[/bold] wrote: They shouldn't be allowed to build them out in the countryside. They wouldn't be allowed to build any other type of building out there. They should build them in industrial estates or by the coast in docking areas where they won't be such an eyesore. Or better still build them out to sea, over the horizon where you can't see them. The UK is surrounded by shallow sea which is suitable for them.[/p][/quote]"The centre, which can house up to 38 businesses, was granted permission for a 1,000 panel solar farm on a neighbouring field. And that green initiative was broadly welcomed. The application says the turbine “will provide sufficient electricity to meet the growing needs of the Business Centre once fully occupied by tenants and to generate income to support the further renovation and development of the site”. Well it might not quite be an "industrial estate" it is a business park and this (along with the solar panels) would allow it to produce it's own energy. Isn't that at least worthy of serious consideration? Albion.
  • Score: 4

11:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

Golzy84 says...

Personally i think its because they have nothing better to do with time! Re-reading it again the objections might be because there will be metal pylons?? But it will be powering the business centre direct?? Also it wont be white! Instead of just objecting focus your time on coming up with alternatives then!!! Pure ignorance
Personally i think its because they have nothing better to do with time! Re-reading it again the objections might be because there will be metal pylons?? But it will be powering the business centre direct?? Also it wont be white! Instead of just objecting focus your time on coming up with alternatives then!!! Pure ignorance Golzy84
  • Score: 5

12:21pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Bone_idle18 says...

I object to people objecting to wind turbines! I have nothing better to do :)
I object to people objecting to wind turbines! I have nothing better to do :) Bone_idle18
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Golzy84 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
I object to people objecting to wind turbines! I have nothing better to do :)
I do not object to people objecting to people objecting the wind turbines!! :)
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: I object to people objecting to wind turbines! I have nothing better to do :)[/p][/quote]I do not object to people objecting to people objecting the wind turbines!! :) Golzy84
  • Score: 1

3:03pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MaFt says...

They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa
rm.org.uk
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk MaFt
  • Score: 1

3:10pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MaFt says...

MaFt wrote:
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa

rm.org.uk
Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support?
[quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk[/p][/quote]Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support? MaFt
  • Score: -1

5:22pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Youngish Bradfordian says...

Yes some people have nothing better to with their time and will have a moan at anything. I have no objection to the turbine at all. And yes I wonder what type of car the head of the against turbine clan drives?? A gas guzzler 4 wheel drive probably!
Yes some people have nothing better to with their time and will have a moan at anything. I have no objection to the turbine at all. And yes I wonder what type of car the head of the against turbine clan drives?? A gas guzzler 4 wheel drive probably! Youngish Bradfordian
  • Score: -1

10:43pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Mary Young says...

MaFt wrote:
MaFt wrote:
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa


rm.org.uk
Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support?
Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners.
[quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk[/p][/quote]Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support?[/p][/quote]Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners. Mary Young
  • Score: 1

12:01am Fri 10 Jan 14

MaFt says...

Mary Young wrote:
MaFt wrote:
MaFt wrote:
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa



rm.org.uk
Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support?
Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners.
Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners.


Well, I thought they looked quite pretty and majestic :/
[quote][p][bold]Mary Young[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk[/p][/quote]Does anyone have the application reference so I can give my support?[/p][/quote]Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners.[/p][/quote][quote]Pretty pictures, you say? With these largely dark and menacing photos you've gifted hugely to the anti wind campaigners.[/quote] Well, I thought they looked quite pretty and majestic :/ MaFt
  • Score: 3

6:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

somewhereinbradford says...

MaFt wrote:
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa

rm.org.uk
Perhaps if you lived in the area and not in Wilsden you would have been asked??? Perhaps if your wife's best mate wasn't asking you to stir it up you wouldn't even be posting, or indeed setting up a website??
[quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you lived in the area and not in Wilsden you would have been asked??? Perhaps if your wife's best mate wasn't asking you to stir it up you wouldn't even be posting, or indeed setting up a website?? somewhereinbradford
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Fri 10 Jan 14

MaFt says...

somewhereinbradford wrote:
MaFt wrote:
They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby?

As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research.

So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa


rm.org.uk
Perhaps if you lived in the area and not in Wilsden you would have been asked??? Perhaps if your wife's best mate wasn't asking you to stir it up you wouldn't even be posting, or indeed setting up a website??
I think you have a few facts wrong there.

1) I read the T&A myself. No one tells me what to read.
2) I have lived in Bradford all my life and so I feel I have the right to respond to anything published in my Bradford paper. If only the people of Denholme are allowed to have an opinion then why is it being published in a Bradford newspaper and not a little local newsletter?
3) I lived at the top of Thornton (on the edge of Denholme) for over 10 years so I have lived in 'the area' for many years and never once got asked my opinion.
4) Quite why you feel it appropriate to hand out personal information about my location is beyond me. Nor can I understand in what way it is relevant to the discussion.
5) I have been passionate about renewable energy long before I even met "my wife's best mate" and have always thought that the wind turbines look amazing - especially with the beautiful Yorkshire sunset glistening off them.
6) "My wife's best mate", as you put it, has not asked me to stir anything up. Nor do I believe I *am* stirring anything up.
7) You apparently know who I am. I don't care, to be honest. I will stand by my opinion - and it *is* my opinion, and not that of "my wife's best mate". Question is, who are you? Or don't you dare say?
[quote][p][bold]somewhereinbradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaFt[/bold] wrote: They look great. And, as many others have said, they are surely better than sticking a big powerstation nearby? As others have also mentioned, I'm sick of one 'do-gooder' claiming they're speak on behalf of everyone in the area. I've never been asked my opinion - perhaps she only asks people she knows don't like them - but that doesn't make for good research. So, anyway, here are some pretty pictures of these lovely machines: http://sayyes2windfa rm.org.uk[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you lived in the area and not in Wilsden you would have been asked??? Perhaps if your wife's best mate wasn't asking you to stir it up you wouldn't even be posting, or indeed setting up a website??[/p][/quote]I think you have a few facts wrong there. 1) I read the T&A myself. No one tells me what to read. 2) I have lived in Bradford all my life and so I feel I have the right to respond to anything published in my Bradford paper. If only the people of Denholme are allowed to have an opinion then why is it being published in a Bradford newspaper and not a little local newsletter? 3) I lived at the top of Thornton (on the edge of Denholme) for over 10 years so I have lived in 'the area' for many years and never once got asked my opinion. 4) Quite why you feel it appropriate to hand out personal information about my location is beyond me. Nor can I understand in what way it is relevant to the discussion. 5) I have been passionate about renewable energy long before I even met "my wife's best mate" and have always thought that the wind turbines look amazing - especially with the beautiful Yorkshire sunset glistening off them. 6) "My wife's best mate", as you put it, has not asked me to stir anything up. Nor do I believe I *am* stirring anything up. 7) You apparently know who I am. I don't care, to be honest. I will stand by my opinion - and it *is* my opinion, and not that of "my wife's best mate". Question is, who are you? Or don't you dare say? MaFt
  • Score: -4

9:17pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mogpick says...

I live in the area and I object. They're inefficient and only going up because they're so heavily subsidised. It's easy for people that don't live around here to not care or not object because they're not affected by it. I don't care if I get called a NIMBY - so what! Why shouldn't I object to these things that are ruining the landscape around here? Why shouldn't I object to something lowering the value of my house and leaving me in negative equity?

It's so very easy for people to judge when they're not directly impacted by something. I've got plenty of things to do with my time other than object to these applications but I object because I, the local community, and many other communities, are directly impacted by them and I do not believe that they are, so to speak, 'fit for purpose' on the renewable energy front.

I'll await the vitriol for giving my opinion.
I live in the area and I object. They're inefficient and only going up because they're so heavily subsidised. It's easy for people that don't live around here to not care or not object because they're not affected by it. I don't care if I get called a NIMBY - so what! Why shouldn't I object to these things that are ruining the landscape around here? Why shouldn't I object to something lowering the value of my house and leaving me in negative equity? It's so very easy for people to judge when they're not directly impacted by something. I've got plenty of things to do with my time other than object to these applications but I object because I, the local community, and many other communities, are directly impacted by them and I do not believe that they are, so to speak, 'fit for purpose' on the renewable energy front. I'll await the vitriol for giving my opinion. mogpick
  • Score: 1

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